Azerbaijan-Turkey to hold joint military exercise

[Ulytau]

Interesting question:
Russia sells arms to Azerbaijan

Why does Turkey not sell arms to Armenia?

This question reveals Russian position in the conflict.

+1

Also about Russia & Azerbaijan arms deal we wont speak about small arms too

 

[Surenas]

To answer that question;

Russia sells arms to everyone if they can earn some money. The US in a way too; the US is protecting Israel at all costs, but still sells arms to countries like Egypt, etc. But bear in mind that Russia will always protect Armenia; Armenia serves as a buffer to a Turkic dominated Caucasus.

 

[Ulytau]

^^^^^^

Well i guess you remember about S-300 issue with Iran,mate.

 

[Surenas]

^^^^^^

Well i guess you remember about S-300 issue with Iran,mate.

What's your point about the S-300 issue?

 

[Ulytau]

What's your point about the S-300 issue?

Russia didnt sell S-300 to Iran.

MOSCOW, July 5 (RIA Novosti) - Iran’s Defense Ministry and The Aerospace Industries Organization have launched a $4 bln law suit against Russia’s state arms corporation Rosoboronexport in an international court in Geneva over a deal to buy missiles suspended by Russia, Rosoboronexport said in its annual report.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/2012/iran-120705-rianovosti01.htm

 

[Surenas]

Russia didnt sell S-300 to Iran.

Yes, I know. Because of that issue relations both countries deteriorated for a while. But what are you trying to say?

 

[atatwolf]

Yes, I know. Because of that issue relations both countries deteriorated for a while. But what are you trying to say?

You said.............

Russia sells arms to everyone if they can earn some money.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...-joint-military-exercise-3.html#ixzz2H8ETYaMv

 

[Ulytau]

^^^^^^

atatwolf already gave answer

nice avatar btw

 

[Surenas]

You said.............

Aha. Yes, that case is an exception. Too much Israeli and American lobbying made the Russians bend over. Actually, the Russians used the Iran-card to have greater influence at the international political stage.

 

[Kajutyun]

Interesting question:
Russia sells arms to Azerbaijan

Why does Turkey not sell arms to Armenia?

This question reveals Russian position in the conflict.

The answer is simple: Armenia does not have any money. The weapons it acquires from Russia are discounted/free. Also, relations between Turkey and Armenia are very complicated; Armenia would not buy weapons from them even if there was that option.

Nothing to do with Russia's position.

 

[Targon]

Your answer is not covers the question of why Russia sells weapons to Azerbaijan because Russia's stance upon this issue is not same with Turkey.

 

[atatwolf]

The answer is simple: Armenia does not have any money. The weapons it acquires from Russia are discounted/free. Also, relations between Turkey and Armenia are very complicated; Armenia would not buy weapons from them even if there was that option.

Nothing to do with Russia's position.

We wouldn't sell Armenians weapons in the first place. What do you want to buy from Turks when they don't offer you anything?

What I want to say, even if it is good for Turkish economy to sell weapons to Armenia or open borders with Armenia for trade and prosperity. Turkey won't do that. We have backbone and won't let Azeri down what ever the cost will be.

Russia is not like this. They sell arms to Azerbaijan, have good relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan, have all kind of projects with us while Armenia is getting left behind in the cold more and more. One day will come when Russia will toss Armenia in the hands of the Azeri to please the Turks.

 

[Surenas]

To please the Turks? International relations isn't about pleasing, but about national interests. Armenia is of enormous importance to the Russians.

 

[atatwolf]

To please the Turks? International relations isn't about pleasing, but about national interests. Armenia is of enormous importance to the Russians.

Correction:

At the moment Armenia is of importance for Russia.

This will change.

Just like you said: Russia cares about national interest first.

 

[Kajutyun]

Your answer is not covers the question of why Russia sells weapons to Azerbaijan because Russia's stance upon this issue is not same with Turkey.

axper, it emphasizes my point. There are no good political relations between Russia and Azerbaijan, in fact they are bad. Russia will sell weapons to anyone.

We wouldn't sell Armenians weapons in the first place. What do you want to buy from Turks when they don't offer you anything?

What I want to say, even if it is good for Turkish economy to sell weapons to Armenia or open borders with Armenia for trade and prosperity. Turkey won't do that. We have backbone and won't let Azeri down what ever the cost will be.

Russia is not like this. They sell arms to Azerbaijan, have good relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan, have all kind of projects with us while Armenia is getting left behind in the cold more and more. One day will come when Russia will toss Armenia in the hands of the Azeri to please the Turks.

Turkey was ready to establish relations with Armenia if Armenia renounced all claims to Genocide and Western Armenia. If they did this (god forbid), Turkey would establish relations the next day.

"We have backbone and won't let Azeri down what ever the cost will be." Don't make me laugh....that is exactly what Turkey did in NKR war.