'Azerbaijan granted Israel access to air bases on Iran border'

[longbrained]

@Abii

What else do you export to Turkey other than oil? You have nothing to offer.

Your electricity comes from Iran since Turkey does not have the technology to produce all of its electricity. Without Iran, Turkey would go into stone age and darkness.

 

[ASQ-1918]

This guy's brain has been seriously damaged.

 

[500]

Your electricity comes from Iran since Turkey does not have the technology to produce all of its electricity. Without Iran, Turkey would go into stone age and darkness.

Where from you get that nonsense?

Turkey :

Electricity - exports:
1.55 billion kWh (2009 est.)

Electricity - imports:
737 million kWh (2009 est.)

 

[Cem_]

Former. And now? We are continuously being accused of 'ruling' Iraq. Syria is our big friend. With Hezbollah we have another great friend in the region and they are almost formally under Iranian command. Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza getting their money from Iran and so are in fact 'Iranian proxies' like US and Israel calls it. Karzai gets almost every year big suitcases with money from Iran and we are also in Bahrein, Yemen, etc. You can only dream of such influence.

We have very strong influence even inside your country Iran. Hamas doesnt listen to Iran anymore it has in the last couple of years clearly rejected Iran and sided with Turkey, we are in Syria too there are Turkmen people there who are loyal to Turkey, Keep giving money to Karzai, we are investing directly to the people..

 

[Cem_]

Try to attack Syria and see how IRAN send you to stone age

Just have a little more patience..

 

[longbrained]

We have very strong influence even inside your country Iran. Hamas doesnt listen to Iran anymore it has in the last couple of years clearly rejected Iran and sided with Turkey, we are in Syria too there are Turkmen people there who are loyal to Turkey, Keep giving money to Karzai, we are investing directly to the people..

Turkey is a NATO member and ofcourse under American direction it has to give money to Afghanistan. Besides Turkey has troops in Afghanistan as well working alongside Americans. As for your influence, that is just false. Turkey is a secular country and its influence does not extend beyond its borders specially not in Muslim world.

Just have a little more patience..

Then what? Kurds will separate from Turkey. There is an insurgency running in your country, fighting for separation. Have a check on that, boy.

 

[Cem_]

Your electricity comes from Iran since Turkey does not have the technology to produce all of its electricity. Without Iran, Turkey would go into stone age and darkness.

Hi my braindead friend, it's cheaper for Turkey to buy directly from Iran than to build extra powerplants.. BTW we do produce, it is just that it doesnt cover all of our electricity needs.

 

[Cem_]

Turkey is a NATO member and ofcourse under American direction it has to give money to Afghanistan. Besides Turkey has troops in Afghanistan as well working alongside Americans. As for your influence, that is just false. Turkey is a secular country and its influence does not extend beyond its borders specially not in Muslim world.

Do you seriously believe all these efforts are done for the sake of ''goodness'' only? Ofcourse it will serve our goal to expand and strenghten our influences over these countries too.

Then what? Kurds will separate from Turkey. There is an insurgency running in your country, fighting for separation. Have a check on that, boy.

LOL, It is not that easy to steal land from Turkey, if they could they would've done it right after ww1, so that's only one sided view, the other view/reality is that the Turkish military if neseccary can fight and win 2 countries and insurgency inside the country at the same time and erase these from existance. The country is strong enough to handle 2 countries as Iran/Syria + Kurdish separatists insurgency inside it just easliy.. actually it's quite funny to me that you are building on those propaganda forces of PKK.. They are not a real fighting force at all.. While Turkey, to give you a hint of military strength of Turkish military- we prepared decades for a war with Russia.. That should tell you something.

 

[Cheetah786]

The guy who talks has no idea. Azerbaijan's defence budget is $4.4-5 billion, here:

Azerbaijan Business Center -

Morover, Azerbaijan is an oil producing country with considerable revenues.


The Azerbaijani Armed Forces (Azerbaijani: Azərbaycan Silahlı Qüvvələri) were re-established according to the Law of the Republic of Azerbaijan on the Armed Forces from 9 October 1991.[5] The Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (ADR) had originally formed its own armed forces from 26 June 1918. However these were dissolved after Azerbaijan was absorbed into the Soviet Union as the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic from 28 April 1920. After the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991-92 the armed forces were reformed based on Soviet bases and equipment left on Azeri soil.

The armed forces have three branches: the Azerbaijani Land Forces, the Azerbaijani Air and Air Defence Force, and the Azerbaijani Navy.[6] Associated forces include the Azerbaijani National Guard, the Internal Troops of Azerbaijan, and the State Border Service, which can be involved in state defense under certain circumstances.

According to the Azerbaijani media sources the military expenditures of Azerbaijan for 2009 were set at $2.46 billion USD,[7] however according to SIPRI, only $1.473 billion was spent in that year.[8] IISS also suggests that the defence budget in 2009 was $1.5 billion.[1] Azerbaijan has its own Defense Industry, which manufactures small arms. In the future, Azerbaijan hopes to start building tanks, armored vehicles, military planes and military helicopters.[9

Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Azerbaijan has been trying to further develop its armed forces into a professional, well trained, and mobile military. Azerbaijan has been undergoing extensive modernization and capacity expanding programs, with the military budget increasing from around $300 million in 2005 to $2.46 billion in 2009.[11] The total armed forces number 56,840 men in the land forces, 7,900 men in the air force and air defence force, and 2,200 men in the navy.[1] There are also 19,500 personnel in the National Guard, State Border Service, and Internal Troops.[12] In addition, there are 300,000 former service personnel who have had military service in the last 15 years.[2] The military hardware of Azerbaijan consists of 220 main battle tanks, an additional 162 T-80's were acquired between 2005 and 2010,[13] 595 armored combat vehicles and 270 artillery systems. The air force has about 106 aircraft and 35 helicopters.[14]

Azerbaijan has acceded to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear weapons state. Azerbaijan participates in NATO's Partnership for Peace. Azerbaijan joined the U.S.-led coalition against Iraq in 2003. It sent 150 troops to Iraq, and later troops to Kosovo. Azeri troops are still serving in Afghanistan.

Despite the rise in Azerbaijan's defence budget, which now doubles Armenia's entire state budget,[15] the armed forces were assessed in 2008 as not having a high state of battle readiness and being ill-prepared for wide scale combat operations.[16]

Today 'National Hero of Azerbaijan' is the highest national title in the country, awarded for outstanding services of national importance to Azerbaijan in defense, as well as other deeds in other spheres.

Are you a troll? Seriously...

Resort to calling names it really shows your intelligence level.


From the very beginning of its existence as a post-Soviet independent republic, Azerbaijan faced a single compelling national security issue: its enduring struggle with Armenian forces in Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding territory. The withdrawal of Russian troops and mat�riel left an Azerbaijani army ill-equipped and poorly disciplined. Government efforts to build a new national defense force achieved only limited results, and Armenian forces continued to advance into Azerbaijani territory during most of 1993. By the end of that year, the Aliyev regime had bolstered some components of the Azerbaijani military, however.

Even before the formal breakup of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991, Azerbaijan had created its own Ministry of Defense and a Defense Council to advise the president on national security policy. The national armed forces of Azerbaijan were formed by presidential decree in October 1991.

Beginning in 1991, Azerbaijan's external national security was breached by the incursion of the Armenian separatist forces of Karabakh militias and reinforcements from Armenia. Azerbaijan's main strategy in this early period was to blockade landlocked Armenia's supply lines and to rely for national defense on the Russian 4th Army, which remained in Azerbaijan in 1991. Clashes between Russian troops and Azerbaijani civilians in 1991 and the collapse of the Soviet Union, however, led Russia to a rapid commitment for withdrawal of troops and equipment, which was completed in mid-1993.

Under those circumstances, a new, limited national armed force was planned in 1992, and, as had been done in Armenia, the government appealed to Azerbaijani veterans of the Soviet army to defend their homeland. But the force took shape slowly, and outside assistance--mercenaries and foreign training officers-- were summoned to stem the Armenian advance that threatened all of southern Azerbaijan. In 1993 continued military failures brought reports of mass desertion and subsequent large-scale recruitment of teenage boys, as well as wholesale changes in the national defense establishment.

In the early 1990s, the domestic and international confusion bred by the Karabakh conflict increased customs violations, white-collar crime, and threats to the populace by criminal bands. The role of Azerbaijanis in the international drug market expanded noticeably. In 1993 the Aliyev government responded to these problems with a major reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which had been plagued by corruption and incompetence, but experts agreed that positive results required a more stable overall atmosphere.

In December 1993, Azerbaijan launched a major surprise attack on all fronts in Karabakh, using newly drafted personnel in wave attacks, with air support. The attack initially overwhelmed Armenian positions in the north and south but ultimately was unsuccessful. An estimated 8,000 Azerbaijani troops died in the two-month campaign, which Armenian authorities described as Azerbaijan's best-planned offensive of the conflict.

Azerbaijan reportedly receives weapons of uncertain origin from various Islamic nations to assist in the struggle to retain Nagorno-Karabakh. In late 1993, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs made an official report to the CSCE on the weapons at Azerbaijan's disposal, fulfilling the requirement of the 1991 Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty. According to this report, during 1992 and 1993 Azerbaijan received more than 1,700 weapons--including tanks, armored personnel carriers, aircraft, artillery systems, and helicopters--from Russia and Ukraine, far above the CFE Treaty limits. According to IMF and Azerbaijani government data, defense expenditures placed a severe burden on the national budget. In 1992 some US$125 million, or 10.5 percent of the total budget, went to defense. The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict also raised expenses for internal security to 4 billion rubles in 1992. By 1994 military expenditures officially reached US$132 million, although unofficial estimates were much higher.

By 2004 the active armed forces included 66,490 personnel. The forces remain conscript-based and comprised three arms of service: ground forces, joint air force and air defense forces, and navy, as well as a reserve base.

Ministry of Defense

 

[ASQ-1918]

And what is your point among all these lines which has nothing to do with our discussion? Are you ok? Seriously. Go and see some doctor.

 

[longbrained]

Do you seriously believe all these efforts are done for the sake of ''goodness'' only? Ofcourse it will serve our goal to expand and strenghten our influences over these countries too.




LOL, that's only one sided view, the other view/reality is that the Turkish military can fight 2 countries and insurgency inside the country at the same time and win these. The country is strong enough to handle 2 countries as Iran/Syria + Kurdish separatists insurgency inside it.. actually it's quite funny to me that you are building on those propaganda forces of PKK.. They are not a real fighting force at all..

It is good now that you have come out and exposed your designs. So basically it is not for the people you are doing rather expanding your role as a NATO member. We have to ask the Afghans about how they perceive NATO and your assumptions mean nothing.

As for your hypothesis about fighting capability, I must say they are only your suppositions and not the truth. Turkey has not been able to defeat Greece and the Cyprus issue is still there. So is the insurgency. It is funny for you to claim such a capability when you have not yet defeated an insurgency which is raging in that region for decades now and has only gotten worse. The PKK might be a propaganda bunch but nonetheless you have not been able to put them down. That is the point, I am making.

 

[Cem_]

It is good now that you have come out and exposed your designs. So basically it is not for the people you are doing rather expanding your role as a NATO member. We have to ask the Afghans about how they perceive NATO and your assumptions mean nothing.

Don't be emotional it won't effect me..

As for your hypothesis about fighting capability, I must say they are only your suppositions and not the truth. Turkey has not been able to defeat Greece and the Cyprus issue is still there. So is the insurgency. It is funny for you to claim such a capability when you have not yet defeated an insurgency which is raging in that region for decades now and has only gotten worse. The PKK might be a propaganda bunch but nonetheless you have not been able to put them down. That is the point, I am making

It's the same as you can't put down the TTP Taliban or USA vs Taliban etc.. does this mean that US military is weak??

 

[SHAHED]

Just have a little more patience..

Just have a little more patience..

And what is your point among all these lines which has nothing to do with our discussion? Are you ok? Seriously. Go and see some doctor.

Hello to little Azeri , I am a Russian , you know

Azerbaijan since 1989

 

[Cheetah786]

And what is your point among all these lines which has nothing to do with our discussion? Are you ok? Seriously. Go and see some doctor.

And what is your point among all these lines which has nothing to do with our discussion? Are you ok? Seriously. Go and see some doctor.

i am sorry i thought i was debating the issue with a human being but obviously you don't qualify as one .i just realized you are probably a Arab so i have to explain it to you just like a child.

I'll make it as simple as possible Armenia took your territory you tried getting it back even though you spend more then them on your military you still lost.

Israel during Iran Iraq war was selling weapons to both as they don't care if there is a war between you and Iran i assure you they will sell the same weapons to Iran.

If your Military couldn't fight Armenia what do you think it Can do against Iran S300 is a defensive weapon I doubt you can use it against ground troops.

Mossad training camps in your country have been used to sent terrorist into Iran,i am sure Iranian aren't happy about that so its pretty obvious who they are going to help to even out the score.

This guy's brain has been seriously damaged.

Do you have a brain?

 

[ASQ-1918]

The war took place right after dissolution of Soviet Union, Azerbaijan was in worse situation, and is not even 1% comparable to current situation. Azerbaijan began to export it's oil in 2005-2006, before that Azerbaijan had no real revenues. So your are not familiar at all with the situation.

A second war should take place, and then you would open your mouth. And which is what Azerbaijan is working on now, but it's not only about military might, Russia acts as a protector of Armenia.

"i assure you they will sell the same weapons to Iran."

Hey guys, you see? LOL