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[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Contract signed b/w Pakistan and Azerbaijan for the supply of 40 JFT Block-3 and 200 Al Khalid-I MBTs.

All to be paid as cheap oil supply to Pakistan for a decade.

اسلامی ملک کا پاکستان سے 40 جےایف17تھنڈر خریدنے کا اعلان - BBC Newspaper | Daily News

آرمینا اور آذربائیجان کی لڑائی کے دوان پاکستان اور آذربائیجان میں آیک تاریخی معاہدہ ہونے جا رہا ہے ، یہ معاہدہ پاکستان اور چین کے تیار کردہ جے ایف سترہ کی فروخت کے حوالے سے ہے ، یوں معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ پاکستان ۱۰ سال تیل کی مفت فراہمی پر آذربائیجان کو جے ایف سترپ […]

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Doubt it. Azerbaijan is landlocked. There is no way Azerbaijan can get oil to Pakistan cheaply. The only way is to pump oil to Black Sea via Georgia and then ship to Pakistan and that'll be too expensive considering the low oil price which will make Azerbaijan lose money. Not to mention Azerbaijan only has 7 billion barrels of oil, not enough to supply Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316790190225199104

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Doubt it. Azerbaijan is landlocked. There is no way Azerbaijan can get oil to Pakistan cheaply. The only way is to pump oil to Black Sea via Georgia and then ship to Pakistan and that'll be too expensive considering the low oil price which will make Azerbaijan lose money. Not to mention Azerbaijan only has 7 billion barrels of oil, not enough to supply Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316790190225199104

through land! either to turkmenistan-Afghanistan route or through Iran.

We have a contract with Iran on logistics. Afterall Iran also wants to buy 200 Block-3s and as soons the sanctions lift this month inshallah we will sign contract with them too.

We have learnt well from China ie dont take sides just trade with all of them!

On another news nigeria has already allocated money {245 million} for Seven Block-3s to be delivered to them in next 5 years too. Along with rumors of eighteen for Egypt. Bock-3 is also on offer to Turkey, Ukraine, Libya and even to Russia well so nobody gets jealous.
@Tai Hai Chen brah! with all these wars around our Jeff will sell like pan cakes!

What's the unit cost for a JFT Block-3?

35 million @flyaway condition.

 

[thetutle]

Looks like AZ have finally endure Hadrut and the town is secure. What language are they speaking in the car?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316827290051981312

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

through land! either to turkmenistan-Afghanistan route or through Iran.

We have a contract with Iran on logistics. Afterall Iran also wants to buy 200 Block-3s and as soons the sanctions lift this month inshallah we will sign contract with them too.

We have learnt well from China ie dont take sides just trade with all of them!

On another news nigeria has already allocated money {245 million} for Seven Block-3s to be delivered to them in next 5 years too. Along with rumors of eighteen for Egypt. Bock-3 is also on offer to Turkey, Ukraine, Libya and even to Russia well so nobody gets jealous.
@Tai Hai Chen brah! with all these wars around our Jeff will sell like pan cakes!

35 million @flyaway condition.

They don't allow competitors to take their share of the oil market.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

They don't allow competitors to take their share of the oil market.

Wars and brotherly relations change a lot of things buddy. This four hundred billion investment that China has done in Irani oil, where do u think will pass through once malacca strait is closed off? There is a reason why CPEC is being expanded into Iran as well as Afghanistan. And there is a lot of chatter of making Chabahar and Gwadar sister ports.

They will use these Pakistani CPEC as well as the northern Turkmenistani routes for supply of oil to China. With CPEC route being the cheapest and fastest to reach Xinjiang region. BTW we may also get Irani oil in return for their Block-3s.

As i said everyone will be happy and nobody will be jealous.

 

[diligence]

This war is going exactly as I expected. There isnt much difference between the military capability of the two warring sides. Azerbaijan will accomplish absolutely nothing, NK will remain armenian. MARK MY WORDS. All of those who think Azerbaijan will accomplish a damn thing are mistaken. Infact, from now on the Azeri's will become less and less effective as weeks go by.


The Turkish president spoke to putin about ceasefire and blah blah...the signs are there. The azeris know they will accomplish nothing. I feel pity for all of the people who had so much false optimism on Azeris being succesful. Forget about succesful, they wont gain anything. Armenia will defend itself by its own nd keep NK permanently, Russia wont even be needed other than to act as a peacemaker to de escalate.

They had no chance of gaining anything.

Irrespective of deceptive and false claims made by many pro-Armenian members here at PDF, the reality is that Armenia is going through a sever manpower crisis. They first threw their teenagers into the war just after a week into the war. Then they brought in their women and now they are inhumanly making their elderly the fuel of their war against Azerbaijan. Whatever the idiotic and shitty claims that even the old Armenian generation is determined to die for their homeland is pure non-sense. These elderly dudes need peace of mind, rest, and comfort of home at this age. But they are being sent to the war front. That is inhumanly act. It's shameful for Armenian leadership that they have thrown their country to such a low and shameful state.

Azerbaijan's goal seems to wipe out as many Armenians as possible in this war and break their backbone in the long run. Loss of material can be recovered in a few years but not the loss of men, broken families, and orphan kids. If a whole generation of a country is wiped out, that is a strategic loss.

While it's true that Azerbaijan military has suffered from quite a few devastating ambushes here and there but that is a part of the war. Nations must stay willing to take such losses but also must learn their lessons from these setbacks. Losing 60 or 100 Azeri soldiers will certainly not change the outcome of this war. It'll however allow Azeris to adjust their war strategy. I think the fact that Azeris are treading slowly through the areas is by plan. The goal looks like to play a push and pull game with Armenians at different places while eliminatimg them in numbers. Once Armenians are reduced to a certain threshold, getting those area (currently illegally occupied by Armenia in violation of US resolutions) will be easier.

 

[diligence]

Putin's loss is US's gain. Russian base in Armenia will be kicked out and US base will be built in Armenia. F-35 armed Armenia is a huge threat to Russia. First Georgia, then Ukraine, then Bolivia, and now Armenia and Belarus is close to falling too. Putin only has like 4 allies left in the world.

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So you can simultaneously get strategic favor from every Tom, Dick and Harry. Armenia can get drones, radars, and missiles from Russia, ATGMs from USA, and drones and HJ-9 from China. On the other hand, you are moaning about a bad Russia that is losing allies in the neighborhood (except two - I am wondering which ones; you didn't name them) because of its dirty play, right? Then you are claiming Putin's loss is US's gain in this game. Now you think of what non-sense you're talking about. It's all contradictions and wishful thinking. I feel you're an Indian spreading your sh!t here.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Irrespective of deceptive and false claims made by many pro-Armenian members here at PDF, the reality is that Armenia is going through a sever manpower crisis. They first threw their teenagers into the war just after a week into the war. Then they brought in their women and now they are inhumanly making their elderly the fuel of their war against Azerbaijan. Whatever the idiotic and shitty claims that even the old Armenian generation is determined to die for their homeland is pure non-sense. These elderly dudes need peace of mind, rest, and comfort of home at this age. But they are being sent to the war front. That is inhumanly act. It's shameful for Armenian leadership that they have thrown their country to such a low and shameful state.

Azerbaijan's goal seems to wipe out as many Armenians as possible in this war and break their backbone in the long run. Loss of material can be recovered in a few years but not the loss of men, broken families, and orphan kids. If a whole generation of a country is wiped out, that is a strategic loss.

While it's true that Azerbaijan military has suffered from quite a few devastating ambushes here and there but that is a part of the war. Nations must stay willing to take such losses but also must learn their lessons from these setbacks. Losing 60 or 100 Azeri soldiers will certainly not change the outcome of this war. It'll however allow Azeris to adjust their war strategy. I think the fact that Azeris are treading slowly through the areas is by plan. The goal looks like to play a push and pull game with Armenians at different places while eliminatimg them in numbers. Once Armenians are reduced to a certain threshold, getting those area (currently illegally occupied by Armenia in violation of US resolutions) will be easier.

A good post!! By the by, the AZ staff officers have been being trained at the Turkish and Pak War Colleges for a reason...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

memorial of 2 Azeri Su-25 pilots killed by Armenian Igla MANPADS over NK

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316795408874647553

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Contract signed b/w Pakistan and Azerbaijan for the supply of 40 JFT Block-3 and 200 Al Khalid-I MBTs.

All to be paid as cheap oil supply to Pakistan for a decade.

اسلامی ملک کا پاکستان سے 40 جےایف17تھنڈر خریدنے کا اعلان - BBC Newspaper | Daily News

آرمینا اور آذربائیجان کی لڑائی کے دوان پاکستان اور آذربائیجان میں آیک تاریخی معاہدہ ہونے جا رہا ہے ، یہ معاہدہ پاکستان اور چین کے تیار کردہ جے ایف سترہ کی فروخت کے حوالے سے ہے ، یوں معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ پاکستان ۱۰ سال تیل کی مفت فراہمی پر آذربائیجان کو جے ایف سترپ […]

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Now thats a 2.56 billion dollars weapons supply contract.

1.4 Billion for Block-3 {35 million per aircraft @flyaway more costs of weapons/ammunition, training, logistics infrastructure development will be added to this prize later} and 1.16 Billion for Al Khalid-I {5.8 Million per Tank. Costs of weapons/ammunition, training, logistics, infrastructure not included.}

Everything will be paid in cheap oil.

They will get their fresh Tanks and aircrafts later uptill next 5 years atleast but right now on emergency basis Block-2 and AKs will go from our military reserves/stocks.

Pakistan can't sell JF-17 to Azerbaijan due to Russia block RD-93 engine. Pakistan can't sell Al Khalid tank to Azerbaijan due to France block SAGEM thermal imager.

 

[thetutle]

Irrespective of deceptive and false claims made by many pro-Armenian members here at PDF, the reality is that Armenia is going through a sever manpower crisis. They first threw their teenagers into the war just after a week into the war. Then they brought in their women and now they are inhumanly making their elderly the fuel of their war against Azerbaijan. Whatever the idiotic and shitty claims that even the old Armenian generation is determined to die for their homeland is pure non-sense. These elderly dudes need peace of mind, rest, and comfort of home at this age. But they are being sent to the war front. That is inhumanly act. It's shameful for Armenian leadership that they have thrown their country to such a low and shameful state.

Azerbaijan's goal seems to wipe out as many Armenians as possible in this war and break their backbone in the long run. Loss of material can be recovered in a few years but not the loss of men, broken families, and orphan kids. If a whole generation of a country is wiped out, that is a strategic loss.

While it's true that Azerbaijan military has suffered from quite a few devastating ambushes here and there but that is a part of the war. Nations must stay willing to take such losses but also must learn their lessons from these setbacks. Losing 60 or 100 Azeri soldiers will certainly not change the outcome of this war. It'll however allow Azeris to adjust their war strategy. I think the fact that Azeris are treading slowly through the areas is by plan. The goal looks like to play a push and pull game with Armenians at different places while eliminatimg them in numbers. Once Armenians are reduced to a certain threshold, getting those area (currently illegally occupied by Armenia in violation of US resolutions) will be easier.

could be, but you are overestimating the impact of losing 5,000 or 10,000 or even 50,000 soldiers. For a country of 3 million, it's not the end of the world. birth rates go up once people start dying in large numbers.

Its when you start losing 10% of your population that things get scary. or 30% of your population. Thats a cause for alarm. but still not the end of the world. It sounds crude and inhumane, but that's how the leaders look at things.

Russia in WW2 lost 20 million by killing its own people and then lost 25 million because of the germans and it kept going. and if it lost another 20 million it would have still kept going.

So if AZ think that killing people is a good idea to break the ARM, this is a mistake. they need to take the land as quickly as possible so they don't turn their economy.

Pakistan can't sell JF-17 to Azerbaijan due to Russia block RD-93 engine. Pakistan can't sell Al Khalid tank to Azerbaijan due to France block SAGEM thermal imager.

You don't know enough about engines on the JF-17

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It is also better for Pakistan not to overtly back Azerbaijan with military hardware, because Pakistan can't out supply India to Armenia, and in the end it will cause more harm to Azerbaijan than good.

 

[thetutle]

It is also better for Pakistan not to overtly back Azerbaijan with military hardware, because Pakistan can't out supply India to Armenia, and in the end it will cause more harm to Azerbaijan than good.

India can't give them more free weapons than Russia already has. There is basically nothing the ARM don't have. Indians should supply them with the best stuff. That war AZ can capture it, send it to Pakistan and let Turkey and Pakistan reverse engineer these Indian weapons in the unlikely event that Indians can make something that is useful. But doubt they can.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Pakistan can't sell JF-17 to Azerbaijan due to Russia block RD-93 engine.

LOL mr Austin Power, i had already told u!

Russia cant do shit viz a viz Pakistan-China! afterall its only us here in Pakistan stopping and guaranteeing no Taliban involvement in Russia/Central Asia/Caucasus affairs! THIS IS WHAT PUTIN IS TRULY SCARED OF, AND THATS WHY IT BACKED OFF OF THIS CONFLICT!

Besides i already explained to you a few days ago why Russia wont object! It will be a total Russian loss as it will endup loosing RD engine's market completely....meaning even Pak also will ditch RD engine completely for WS13E who BTW has a power of 100 kn vs RD's only 91 kn thrust.


It was actually Pakistan! who decided to stick with RD series for Block-III as a favor to Russia. China to this day wants Block-III to run on WS13E. Thats why all Prototypes of Block-III being made in China flew with WS13E instead of RD series.

So yeah mister Austin, Putin should make you his advisor! and that decision alone will turn Russia great again!

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

India can't give them more free weapons than Russia already has. There is basically nothing the ARM don't have. Indians should supply them with the best stuff. That war AZ can capture it, send it to Pakistan and let Turkey and Pakistan reverse engineer these Indian weapons in the unlikely event that Indians can make something that is useful. But doubt they can.

Armenia bought Swathi counter battery radars. Nag fire and forget ATGM is also on their shopping list.

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