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[HAIDER]

mannn 135 pages............ why are pakistanis so obsessed with this? You would think with a per capita GDP less than 2000, your priorities would be to provide decent standards of living for your people but hell no.

Yeah, we need a change of topic... what is the point to talk about something we can't fix ...but we are trying through implementing socialist agenda ..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The operation is on the 10th day!! Forging ahead in a full swing with an accelerated intensity!! 3K km2 has been liberated so far fighting tooth and nail against the strong Armenian positions fortified over the course of 30 years!!!! A damn good achievement in these rough and tough geographies!!! Armenia is now sending younger than 18-year olds and 50-year olds to the front....

Ya Istiklal Ya Izmihal....

 

[Goenitz]

Azeri airforce must bomb some major army installation inside main city of karabagh... deadly effect

 

[Dalit]

The operation is on the 10th day!! Forging ahead in a full swing with an accelerated intensity!! 3K km2 has been liberated so far fighting tooth and nail against the strong Armenian positions fortified over the course of 30 years!!!! A damn good achievement in these rough and tough geographies!!! Armenia is now sending younger than 18-year olds and 50-year olds to the front....

Ya Istiklal Ya Izmihal....

You damn right brother. Pakistanis fully support their friendly ally Azerbaijan.

 

[HAIDER]

Anyway, the origin of this conflict as I've read dates back to USSR and its pointless population relocation and divide and conquer strategies which is an important point overlooked by the lot here with single brain cells.

Yeah, The first stage in that dispute was marked by the declaration by the Azerbaijan Revolutionary Committee (Azrevkom) of 30 November 1920, recognizing the disputed regions of Zangezur and Nakhichevan as integral parts of Soviet Armenia and granting Nagorno-Karabakh, with a predominantly Armenian population, the right to self-determination. This decision was confirmed by Narimanov, on 1 December 1920, at a grand meeting of the Baku Soviet. At the same meeting, Ordzhonikidze spoke about directly ceding Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia, as did Stalin in the issue of Pravda of 4 December 1920. Ordzhonikidze's position was later called a "mistake" by Azerbaijani writers. The solution of the Karabakh question in favour of Armenia was further confirmed by a decision of the plenary session of the Caucasian Bureau of the Russian Communist Party Central Committee (Kavbiuro), taken on 3 June 1921. However, the final decision on the matter came at another plenary session of the same Kavbiuro, on 5 July 1921: to attach Karabakh to Azerbaijan, while "granting it broad regional autonomy"

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The 2nd wave of ops on-going!!! Susa and Hankedi are going to get liberated any time....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Armenia has targeted the Baku-Tiflis-Ceyhun pipeline with cluster bombs. However, no damage has occurred as it fell 10 meters away!! Quite a desperate attempt from Armenia. Looks like they won't stop till all of their military installations are flattened. Any destruction of the pipeline means Turkey will attack Armenia on all fronts.....

Now, the Turkish 3rd Army, with HQ in Erzinjan, is the largest and most prolific field army in Turkey. It was especially built to be the NATO's vanguard against the USSR/Russia on the Eastern front!!! Armenia shouldn't mess with this Army....

In the middle of the 19th century, 75% of the population of Yerevan were Turks.....

 

[iby32]

Press conference from the Azerbayjan defense ministry spokesman:

What is he saying can any one translate please

 

[Goenitz]

What is he saying can any one translate please

@Hakikat ve Hikmet
there is no english channel of Turkey or Azeri?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

@Hakikat ve Hikmet
there is no english channel of Turkey or Azeri?

You may try Turkey's TRT World in English:

TRT World

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www.trtworld.com

 

[drmeson]

We have qizalbash in Pakistan too, little homie.

Adapting a name means nothing. Pakistani genetics do not match up a bit with NW Iranic/Turkic Kizilbas cline. See Iranians and Turks and then see pakistani ethnic groups.

There is still time for iranian leadership to come to their senses, otherwise they will lose their predominant place as a spokesman for the world's Shias. If Iran goes even farther in aiding Armenians against Azerbaycan, they will suffer internal instability.

Thanks for sharing your insights.

There is not a single shred of evidence of Iranian support for any party in this war (those truck pics proved to be fakes) between two regional light weights. If Iran had been supporting Armenia the way Iran usually supports its allies like Syria, Lebanon or Yemen then we would have been seeing barrages of modern most accurate BM and CM landing in BAKU on top of Alieyvs head. Same goes for Iranian support of Azerbaijan. We azeris from Iran do have emotional support for Baku but thats limited to what it is, emotional support. People are exaggerating Iranian interest in this conflict.

Most of the topnotch Iranian leadership and military itself is Turk. Meet few of them ...

Supreme Leader of Iran, Bayat Turk

Chief of Staff for the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Afshar turk (Head of entire IRGC, Regular Forces)

Naval Chief ... Astrabadi Turk

I can fill pages with Iranian Turks guarding Iran.

very balanced post just to dont get arrested by iranian police.

Why would I get arrested for supporting my own Government and Country ? I am a proud Iranian (and an Azeri Kizilbas Turk) and I support my brave Artesh, IRGC and Khamanei Rahbar.

One point, Iran has betrayed the people of the Caucasus in the past - the Chechens. They supported the Russian genocide of the Chechen people in the Two Russian Wars on Chechnya.

Iran supported no one and it doesn't even matter what any outsider country says in internal matter of a military superpower. You ppl believe in lip service providing "allies" too much. Chechen problem is Russian problem to deal with not Iranian. Iran literally had no stake in Chechnya.

Russia can never be friends with Iran. You fake it, pretend to be Russia's friend, only in silent writing communication that is immediately burned, do Iranian officials speak of their true feelings on Russia among Iranians if they ever come to reason.

and the point is ?

Btw as an Iranian turk I will never trust Russian intentions towards Iran. Russia took Azerbaijan republic from us by force. No Azeri wanted this but it happened because of Russian aggression only. Even after century of forced communism, Azerbaijan republic still is a shia Muslim country.

Iran is not there yet, they would probably support Russia to take over Azerbaijan, they are that stupid. They let Chechens be genocided and cheered the Russians.

Again what happens between Baku and Moscow is not in control of Iran just like what happened in Chechen land had no connection to Tehran. Iran has its interests in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen so we act there but not in Azerbaijan or Chechnya. your post is delusional tbh.

Iran is essentially 60% Azeri (meaning Islamic Caucasian), 25% Iranian, 15% Other. You guys are brothers.

Azeri is not Islamic caucasian lol ... AZERIS are IRANIC TURKS. Roughly 15-20% oghuz Turkic and 80-85 % NW Iranian (Medes) by genetics. Closest we genetically cluster with is none other than our own Iranic cousins from same region, the Kurds.

 

[gangsta_rap]

But if same azerbaijan republic threatens my Iran (they never have in real) then I am their worst of the worst enemy because Iran is my country and we kizlbas Turks have been guarding Iran vatanam for centuries, we used to cut heads of our own Turk blood cousins from Anatolia when they threatened Iran. Few uninformed pakistani trolls on this forum can not understand this connection. Ma faqt tarafdar azerbaycan nistim, ma khod azerbaycani hastim ...

MA KHOD AZERBAIJANI HASTIM
HARAY HARAY MAN TURKEM

 

[SalarHaqq]

PKK are atheist communists, they are not Muslims, let alone Sunnis.

The PKK isn't prototypically communist (leftist, yes, no doubt), and not every member of a communist movement is necessarily an atheist. I'd advise to take that back / ask God for forgiveness, since if there are even a few believers among the PKK, then pronouncing takfir against those few individuals will be sinful.

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You people are responsible for Nagorno-Karabakh and other 7 districts occupation of Azerbaijan. Iran was the second country after turkey who accepted Israel. Don't give lame excuses that if this happen than we can do this and that. We all know who are you and what you did to Nagorno-Karabakh and for whom you are working till now.

It was a completely different Iranian regime which used to work with the zionists. It was overthrown by an Islamic Revolution in 1979, a Revolution that rejected practically everything the ousted monarchy stood for, in particular its ties with Tel Aviv, and Iran's foreign policy experienced a profound U-turn. So that's a disingenuous point to make.

Iran started out by fully supporting Azarbaijan during the 1990's Karabakh war (with training, volunteers, arms, etc) but was betrayed by the latter after political leaders in Baku began expressing support for the separation of Azari-speaking areas from Iran, in addition to embracing Isra"el" and the US regime.

All people in Tabriz were protesting. Tabriz is the gate way of Armenia. Almost 20 to 30 million Azeri people live eastern and western Azerbaijan of Iran.

A couple hundreds of people is not all Tabriz (a city of some 1.5 million people).

The number of Azaris Iranians amounts approximately to 14 million. See my detailed demonstration here:

Azerbaijan Armenian War

French would have jumped in but turkey is the problem Similarly arabs might just come in (financially to erik turkey OIC has made statements backing the Azeri and condemning the Armenian's. That would not happen without KSA's approval. Despite tensions with Turkey, I don't think GCC would...

defence.pk

The combined population of the two provinces you mention does not even reach 7 million. Please do not spread blatant disinformation.

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It's not a secret that Iran is supplying Armenia, against Azerbaijan.

Can you provide some hard evidence for this claim? I've never come accross any such proof, so it is more likely to be disinformation from Iran's adversaries.

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Stereotypes hold no weight in geopolitics, it just proves the Iranian view of the world is archaic and outdated.

I'm sure he meant the average unit in the Azarbaijani army in that particular time frame of history, not Azaris sui generis. Also, it doesn't prove much about the Iranian view of the world, it's just one person out of 85+ million expressing his thoughts.

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They supported the Russian genocide of the Chechen people in the Two Russian Wars on Chechnya.

They let Chechens be genocided and cheered the Russians.

Iran supported the terrorist Russians over Chechen Muslims.

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That's inaccurate. Iran staid out of the Chechnya war and did not provide support to Russia.

You're citing a "Radio Free Europe" i. e. CIA source to back up your assertion, but do not seem to realize the CIA is not a credible source of information on Iran, and has every reason to spread anti-Iran propaganda.

Azeris are of the stock of non-Iranian Sassanid subjects of West Asians who converted to Islam.

Iranian Paternal ancestry
53% Caucasian
25% Iranian/possible Kassite
7% North African/Berber/Atlantian
16% other - including possibly more Caucasian and other old stock West Asian

@Philosopher @Raghfarm007

Those are verily bizarre claims. Any serious source to substantiate them?

They go against credible academic consensus for sure. Following claims that Azaris are Turks, now come new claims that they are neither Turkic nor Iranian...

"Atlantian"? I hope by that you don't mean to refer to the mythical continent of Atlantis, which is just that, a myth.

For serious studies on the origin of Iranians and their genetic make-up, see:

“This war against our republic is also a war against Iran’

First they will take Nagorno-Karabakh, then they will take southern Armenia and link Turkey with Azerbaijan. Then Turkey and Azerbaijan will unite and Turkey will become a dominant power in the Caucasus, using Azerbaijani territory to destabilize Azeri parts of Iran and influence Muslims...

defence.pk

“This war against our republic is also a war against Iran’

There are two types of nations in the world : 1)Those that want to spread influence and protect their interests and have the capability 2) Those that want to but do not have the capability You are apparently geopolitically illiterate and do not realise this basic nature of nations in wanting...

defence.pk

Iran is essentially 60% Azeri (meaning Islamic Caucasian), 25% Iranian, 15% Other. You guys are brothers.

Some 18% of Iranians are Azari, and a good portion of them have mixed roots (i. e. are partly Azari and have ancestors from other Iranian linguistic groups as well). See my detailed demonstration here:

Azerbaijan Armenian War

French would have jumped in but turkey is the problem Similarly arabs might just come in (financially to erik turkey OIC has made statements backing the Azeri and condemning the Armenian's. That would not happen without KSA's approval. Despite tensions with Turkey, I don't think GCC would...

defence.pk

By the way, the name Azarbaijan derives from Āzarbādegān, a purely Iranian-Aryan name. It is of Iranian, not of Caucasian origin. So in a sense, it's true they are brothers, however their common denominator is their Iranianness.

 

[Itachi]

Russia, China, Iran will not let Turkey step into central Asia. Russia and Iran will not let Caucasus become another Syria.

But Central Asia is already inhabited by mostly Turks. Unless China invades or pressures others Central Asian countries, China should sit back and relax.

 

[Itachi]

China respect the UN resolution of NK, but it's different after Turkey get involved.

After Turkey get involved it's not a problem of NK, it's the whole Caucasus.

Why are the Chinese so afraid of the Turks??

Is it the history??

Either way, China should refrain from interfering in the Caucasus. Otherwise, it'll give reason/support for those wanting to interfere inside China on behalf of the Uyghurs...