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Why do I see the beginnings of a world war 3 ? The Turkish armistice hasn't even ended and Turkey and major Muslim countries are being needled into reactions. In the words of Alamma Iqbal we are going to be lost in a huge maze of cause and effect.

Honestly, brother you might as well let it happen WWIII; things need to be fixed from the mess left by UK, France and Russia after WWI & WWII.

Also what you mean by armistice? I don't recall of any.
 
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Why do I see the beginnings of a world war 3 ? The Turkish armistice hasn't even ended and Turkey and major Muslim countries are being needled into reactions. In the words of Alamma Iqbal we are going to be lost in a huge maze of cause and effect.
Don't worry!!! The time for Kufr and Iman rotates in a cyclic (sinusoidal) fashion by HIS PLAN/WILL/PERMISSION/EXECUTION etc....

And, HIS RAHMET wins over HIS AZAB for the Muslims; hence, the period of Ga'libiyet is longer than the period of Ma'lubiyet for the Muslims....

It's the opposite for the Kufr....

The period of Ma'lubiyet
for the Muslims stated around 200 years back, and it reached the lowest point in 1923! Now, the point is going north to reach the zenith in a zig-zag fashion of course....

Don't see the headlines, see the trend-line - President Bill Clinton, the last wise leader of the USA
 
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Trying to be polite, but most of this thread is garbage. Very little information about military situation. I understand people are free to speak their minds, just some of you need to think before you post. Mainly aimed at honourable members that are saying "Pakistan should get more active in conflict" or "send military personnel".

We have india right on doorstep. Pakistan needs to focus all its energy on its immediate neighbourhood.
 
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what is the latest update from battlefield front?

1) did Azeri forces move forward through the plains to capture more land ? or,
2) the ruthless bombing campaign is still on going armenian troops to soften them up before azeri ground invasion ?

air strikes by Azeri Su25, so demoralizing for Armenians with psy ops

 
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Don't worry!!! The time for Kufr and Iman rotates in a cyclic (sinusoidal) fashion by HIS PLAN/WILL/PERMISSION/EXECUTION etc....

And, HIS RAHMET wins over HIS AZAB for the Muslims; hence, the period of Ga'libiyet is longer than the period of Ma'lubiyet for the Muslims....

It's the opposite for the Kufr....

The period of Ma'lubiyet
for the Muslims stated around 200 years back, and it reached the lowest point in 1923! Now, the point is going north to reach the zenith in a zig-zag fashion of course....

Don't see the headlines, see the trend-line - President Bill Clinton, the last wise leader of the USA

we can only try for HIM, and the victory belongs to God
 
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Nagorno Karabakh President:

"this war against our republic is also a war against Iran"


He is absolutely right. Erdogan is trying to cause instability in Irans caucaus region to advance his own weakening political position.

that coward Aliev would have never dared launch this invasion had it not been without active turkish support and prodding.

first in Syria, now here. This is the second direct time Turkey is making geopolitical moves endangering Iranian security. Iran needs to teach both Turkey and Azerbaijan a devastating lesson in this war.
 
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Nagorno Karabakh President:

"this war against our republic is also a war against Iran"


He is absolutely right. Erdogan is trying to cause instability in Irans caucaus region to advance his own weakening political position.

that coward Aliev would have never dared launch this invasion had it not been without active turkish support and prodding.

first in Syria, now here. This is the second direct time Turkey is making geopolitical moves endangering Iranian security. Iran needs to teach both Turkey and Azerbaijan a devastating lesson in this war.

justice is being served for ethnically cleansing azeris from karabakh, karma is a bitxh, i can understand your pain
 
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wondering how some of them realize just before the hit that something is coming? and lied down on ground.
Is it that descending weapon makes some sound?


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Sound from incoming projectile, or sirens warning of incoming attack. Likely sound from missile homing in on targets. I read Azeris are using a sucicide UAV ... it is loud as hell. I guess it is designed to make noise. This could be suicide UAV strike.
 
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justice is being served for ethnically cleansing azeris from karabakh, karma is a bitxh, i can understand your pain
my pain?

and what justice ? and where? what on earth are you talking about?

the Azeris are getting stuffed. have made no significant gains. Their men are getting butchered.

Just think what astronimical losses an attacking side would have to take, against a defending side, heavily dug into high terrain/mountains. and a fight to the absolute death attitude.

the azeris are keeping their losses a secret for a good reason. The fact they are throwing around outlandish claims of "2300" armenians killed, tells you azeri losses must be in the 1000s.

Also dont get too excited about some drone videos. virtually every single one of those drones has a camera on it. and you are seeing all the Azeri successes.

imagine if there was a camera attached to every arterlliry shell shredding azeri soldiers, every sniper blowing out a skull, etc.etc...

these drones make for good video, but so far their battle field decisiveness is lacking.
 
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The US backed Pashinyan coup has been a disaster for Armenia. He has allowed subversive western NGOs to flood in and the Pentagon to set up biolabs and he badmouths Russia. The worst of it is that Pashinyan gave Armenians the illusion of having powerful allies in the West when actually they allowed themselves to be played by the West against Russia. Is the West telling Israel to stop weapons shipments to Azerbaijan? Not at all, in fact Israel is rushing supplies in the last three days.

Armenia is in a terrible geopolitical and strategic position between implacable enemies and with few allies and little resources. On top of that it has a long history of making terrible strategic decisions for one disaster after another. The combination of Pashinyan with the US Armenian diaspora is a poison pill.

That one Russian military base is all that is holding Turkey back from walking over Armenia. In the 1990’s when Turkey was massing to invade Armenia is was Yeltsin that told the Turks if they invaded Armenia they would be at war with Russia.

Now Russian and Iran would probably let the scenario run for a while before intervening.

Armenian got to pay back with some territory loss for their one night stand with USA, betraying their Russian and Iranian backers.
 
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my pain?

and what justice ? and where? what on earth are you talking about?

the Azeris are getting stuffed. have made no significant gains. Their men are getting butchered.

Just think what astronimical losses an attacking side would have to take, against a defending side, heavily dug into high terrain/mountains. and a fight to the absolute death attitude.

the azeris are keeping their losses a secret for a good reason. The fact they are throwing around outlandish claims of "2300" armenians killed, tells you azeri losses must be in the 1000s.

Also dont get too excited about some drone videos. virtually every single one of those drones has a camera on it. and you are seeing all the Azeri successes.

imagine if there was a camera attached to every arterlliry shell shredding azeri soldiers, every sniper blowing out a skull, etc.etc...

these drones make for good video, but so far their battle field decisiveness is lacking.

The butt hurt you Iranians are having is amazing to look at, and painful at the same time that your a self created 5th column along with those GCC camel herders.
 
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Trying to be polite, but most of this thread is garbage. Very little information about military situation. I understand people are free to speak their minds, just some of you need to think before you post. Mainly aimed at honourable members that are saying "Pakistan should get more active in conflict" or "send military personnel".

We have india right on doorstep. Pakistan needs to focus all its energy on its immediate neighbourhood.
When you play chess you don't just focus on the one main piece the Queen but systematically look at all the pieces and all the possible moves and outcomes, do your calculations and make your move. You can distract your opponent with small sacrifices , lay traps whilst blocking his every move and possible positions. The key question is which states are the players and which are the pawns in the international chess game.
 
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This is a crash course on the history of the region.


Seems the Azeris are close to capturing Fuzuli, one of the seven areas forcibly captured by the Armenians.

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