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good analogy but not practical.. Those region didn't have strong language, belief and culture. Like Africans. North African were tribal with no education, developed language, strong ethos and mature religions . Muslims came so they became Muslims. For South Africa, christian came so they became christians. Resistance occurred like Muslim in India. 800 yeras rule, but still not in majority. Neither British could convert them to christianity. Similarly for british in China, No mass conversion. Tribal societies like Afghan, Arab, Mongols, Aztec, Native Americans, Mayans, Malay, Indonesia, Africans, aboriginals were easy to be converted. As invaders/foreigners had already developed language/religion/culture so they overwhelmed locals in every manner. @Joe Shearer @jamahir @waz @Indos

You didn't understand what he was saying. He said if Turks wanted to use force they would have converted the religion and altered the language of people they conquered. In spain the reconquista forcibly changed religion and language of millions of Muslims. And the force was so effective that there wasn't any native spanish Muslim left in Spain in the beginning of 19th century. The Americans when they used force they wiped out native Indians now the native Indians only exist in open zoos called reservations. He is saying no force no compulsion no change of religion/language through political means nor they instituted laws which subjugated the non-Muslim populations or made it difficult for them to speak a native language or be non-Muslim. In Spain Islam was out-lawed. And being Muslim was punished by death. Hundreds of thousands died, immigrated and forcibly converted Christianity. It changed their religion language and heritage customs and dress cuisine everything.
 
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If it wasnt for this single fact, Iran would wiped that aliev regime off the fAce of the earth long ago. They are really exploiting that and pushing their luck. Its incredible the amount of restraint iran hs shown towards that despicable aLiev regime
Can you or any of the other Iranians explain (with credible sources) what exactly Azerbaijan has done to tangibly harm Iran?

Has Azerbaijan supported terrorists or militias fighting the Iranian government in Iran?

Has Azerbaijan tried to invade Iran?

Merely having a relationship with Israel is not sufficient grounds for condemnation, since Iranians don't like that particular argument being made when it comes to Pakistanis criticizing Iran for having a close relationship with India.
 
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May Allah give victory to Muslims of Azerbaijan. O Allah make their cause just, resolve stiff, aim perfect, march constant, life long, health perfect, stamina unexhausting, committment unwavering, feet firm, defeat impossible and their vicotry complete. Ameen rabbana. Ameen rabbana. Ameen ya Rabbil alameneen.
 
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Can you or any of the other Iranians explain (with credible sources) what exactly Azerbaijan has done to tangibly harm Iran?

Has Azerbaijan supported terrorists or militias fighting the Iranian government in Iran?

Has Azerbaijan tried to invade Iran?

Merely having a relationship with Israel is not sufficient grounds for condemnation, since Iranians don't like that particular argument being made when it comes to Pakistanis criticizing Iran for having a close relationship with India.
well for one, AZ gave Israeli intelligence bases and access close to IRan's border....thats direct harm to Iran's national security..but if u think Azerbaijan is innocent of any wrongdoing that might suggest you have a bias.
 
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Armenia had 25 years to reinforce positions in strategic heights and mountains. First aim is to soften targets and capture important heights, road networks and then link them up. They are doing a similar strategy to Turkish forces in Syria, Libyan forces when they liberated Tripoli. Once the important resistance points are crushed the enemy will fall like a domino.

If there is no outside interference on both sides, it will be a quite long war and Azerbaycan will ultimately retake what is theirs.
I think its similar to Afrin op.
 
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The Turks conduct in 19th century Balkan was scorched earth.

If Balkan never kicked Turks out, all Christians will be purged. Poor Armenia resided in Anatolia has no where to run but to accept anything from Turks.

Armenian especially in NK cant trust anyone friendly with Turks. This is understandable.

No one is as to the level of Turk in a retreating empire. Compare Iran and China.

Nevertheless Muslims in Balkan also paid heavily for the conduct of Ottoman up to this day.
History is written from 2 sides. To get a balanced opinion read the Turkish side.

Example the Christians under Muslim rule in Spain lived as free citizens....when the Muslims were ejected until recently history said they were barbaric but now the Spanish say they were angels. So please educate yourself
 
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Anyone heard that an S300 in Armenia intercepted a missile flying towards Yerevan yesterday???? people talked about it on twitter but i havent seen any reference to it in this thread. if anyone knows, pls share.
 
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well for one, AZ gave Israeli intelligence bases and access close to IRan's border....thats direct harm to Iran's national security..but if u think Azerbaijan is innocent of any wrongdoing that might suggest you have a bias.
That's the same complaint Pakistanis have about Iran and India's relationship, which the Iranians dismiss, so not really a good reason.

So what wrongdoing against Iran has Azerbaijan engaged in? I'm asking the question so you or others can help us become better informed, since cursory google searches don't offer much.
 
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Anyone heard that an S300 in Armenia intercepted a missile flying towards Yerevan yesterday???? people talked about it on twitter but i havent seen any reference to it in this thread. if anyone knows, pls share.
The information I have is that it was a drone that was shot down. Whose drone, surveillance drone or armed, not sure.
 
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The tragedies of Arabic Moors few hundreds years ago does not compel the Iranian Mullahs to massacre their Christians subject. Neither did the encroachment of Russians make Iran leaders turned against their Christians.

One should benchmark the Ottomans against Great Empires such as Persian or Chinese, not the then fledging Castile.

History is written from 2 sides. To get a balanced opinion read the Turkish side.

Example the Christians under Muslim rule in Spain lived as free citizens....when the Muslims were elected until recently history said they were barbaric but now the Spanish say they were angels. So please educate yourself
 
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