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Azerbaycan exports oil to Israel, however Israel has deep ties with Armenian nationalists and terrorists, just like they do with Serbs, and other crusader allies of Iran.

It makes you wonder about the credentials of an Islamic Republic which supports the virulently Islamophobic enemies of all its neighboring Muslim countries, such as India, NA of Afghanistan, Azeris, Serbs, etc.

What is even more mind boggling is that Azerbaijan is a Shia majority country with over 85% of the population being Shia, yet Iran is vehemently against Azerbaijan and pro Armenia, yet on every other front Iran has successfully hijacked Shiaism to represent itself as the custodian of Shia Islam, not only that but it uses this representation of itself as a means to recruit Pakistani and Afghani Shias to fight it's wars and further spread it's sphere of influence in the levant.
 
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There is no paradox here. Iran has been protector of Armenia for 2500 years.

What is even more mind boggling is that Azerbaijan is a Shia majority country with over 85% of the population being Shia, yet Iran is vehemently against Azerbaijan and pro Armenia, yet on every other front Iran has successfully hijacked Shiaism to represent itself as the custodian of Shia Islam, not only that but it uses this representation of itself as a means to recruit Pakistani and Afghani Shias to fight it's wars and further spread it's sphere of influence in the levant.
 
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" We see that those who are with us today are the countries that have openly expressed their positions - brotherly Turkey and brotherly Pakistan. "
https://azertag.az/en/xeber/Preside...f_incoming_Pakistani_ambassador_VIDEO-1598149

EDIT : So, this was spoken in the bilateral exchange with the incoming Pakistani ambassador. Understandable.

I stand corrected but on googling the previous worded statements, nothing tangible came.[1][2]
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=We+saw+who+our+true+brothers+were+in+this+war.+These+are+the+people+of+#Turkey+and+#Pakistan."&oq=We+saw+who+our+true+brothers+were+in+this+war.+These+are+the+people+of+#Turkey+and+#Pakistan."&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=Azerbaycan+Cumhurbaşkanı+İlham+Aliyev:+"Bu+savaşta+gerçek+kardeşlerimizin+kim+olduğunu+gördük.+Bunlar+Türkiye+ve+Pakistan+halkıdır."&oq=Azerbaycan+Cumhurbaşkanı+İlham+Aliyev:+"Bu+savaşta+gerçek+kardeşlerimizin+kim+olduğunu+gördük.+Bunlar+Türkiye+ve+Pakistan+halkıdır."&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Can you elaborate on what Israel has tangibly done for Azerbaijan, outside of military cooperation and sales?
How pro-Israel Jews Became Azerbaijan's Secret Weapon in Washington
Azerbaijan and Israel have enjoyed good relations for decades, with reported arms and oil deals between the two countries. Now, the Central Asian country is leveraging that goodwill to increase its influence in D.C.

Published on 29.04.2018

WASHINGTON – On the morning of April 18, an event celebrating Israel’s 70th anniversary was held on Capitol Hill. Despite the fact that such events were being held all over the United States that week, this one was particularly unusual as it honored not only Israel but also another country: the Republic of Azerbaijan.

The celebration was attended by members of Congress from both parties, Jewish and Christian religious leaders, activists from the Jewish community and representatives of the Azerbaijan Embassy in D.C. Overall, approximately 50 people attended. They were handed leaflets with the flags of both countries – Israel’s white-and-blue flag with the Star of David, and Azerbaijan’s horizontal tricolor with an Islamic crescent and eight-pointed star in the middle.

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As if an event honoring Israel and another country wasn’t unique enough, the fact that the other country was a Muslim-majority nation added even more significance to the gathering.

Israel and Azerbaijan have enjoyed official relations since 1992. Indeed, Azerbaijan remains one of the few Muslim-majority countries to fully recognize Israel and normalize diplomatic relations with the Jewish state.

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Schoolchildren wearing traditional dresses wave an Azerbaijani flag during the annual Day of Reading event, in Baku, April 26, 2018.
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But the Washington event represented a new stage in relations between the two countries. Azerbaijan is not trying to downplay its relationship with Israel or keep it quiet, as many Muslim and Arab countries have done over the years. Instead, it is openly celebrating that relationship in the hope of utilizing it to improve its own standing in D.C.

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Beneficial relationship

“We regularly have events involving the two countries, but the event [on April 18] was very special,” Azerbaijan Ambassador to Washington Elin Suleymanov tells Haaretz in an interview. “It was the first time the two countries’ relationship was being celebrated, on the day of Israel’s 70th anniversary. I don’t think anybody has done something like this before.”

The man who hosted the event also played a key role in organizing it: New York-based Rabbi Marc Schneier, who has been working to promote dialogue and cooperation between Israel and Muslim countries for two decades.

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Schneier spoke at the event about the partnership between Israel and Azerbaijan, which includes economic, cultural and military cooperation.


Speaking to Haaretz afterward, he also noted the significance of how the two countries’ relationship is influencing Azerbaijan’s diplomacy efforts in Washington.

“It’s historic that Israel, on its 70th anniversary, can play a role in global relations between the United States and other countries,” Schneier says. He adds that while Israel’s influence shouldn’t be exaggerated, it’s true that cooperation with Israel is currently beneficial for countries trying to improve their own standing in the American capital.

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Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, third from right, next to Turkey's then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan at a pipe-laying ceremony in Ceyhan in 2006. The pipeline provides oil to Israel.
Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, third from right, next to Turkey's then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan at a pipe-laying ceremony in Ceyhan in 2006. The pipeline provides oil to Israel.Credit: REUTERS
“In a way, that’s part of what we’re celebrating today,” he says.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu first visited Azerbaijan during his initial term in office in 1997 and returned in December 2016. Then-President Shimon Peres also visited the country in 2009. And over the years, a number of Israeli leaders have enjoyed warm relations with Azeri President Ilham Aliyev, who succeeded his own father as leader in 2003.

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Azerbaijan has acquired military equipment from Israeli companies worth billions of dollars over the years – $5 billion worth by 2016, according to the Azeris. Some of that hardware surfaced in an unlikely place recently, when an Azeri pop music video revealed advanced Israeli weapons systems being used by the Azeri army.

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A number of news stories in recent years have portrayed a military and intelligence relationship based on the two countries’ common sense of threat from Azerbaijan’s southern neighbor, Iran – although the governments in Jerusalem and Baku have not officially confirmed those reports.

If Azerbaijan is gaining access to weaponry and drones, according to those reports, Israel is also getting a vital commodity: oil. It is estimated that Israel receives up to two-thirds of its oil annually from the Azeris (although that figure fluctuates from year to year) – first pumped from Baku to Turkey, and then taken by tanker to Israel.

And this is just what’s reported. WikiLeaks published an email from the U.S. Embassy in Baku a decade ago in which President Aliyev described relations between the two countries as being like an iceberg: “Nine-tenths of it is below the surface.”

Israel has also faced criticism for its relations with Azerbaijan. The Central Asian country has consistently been condemned for human rights violations, with Human Rights Watch writing in its most recent report that the Azeri government “continues to wage a vicious crackdown on critics and dissenting voices.” Amnesty International, meanwhile, notes that “reports of torture and other ill-treatment persist.”

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Is Azerbaijan using its ties with Israel to get on President Donald Trump's good side? For a long time, says ex-U.S. ambassador Dan Shapiro.
Is Azerbaijan using its ties with Israel to get on President Donald Trump's good side? "They’ve been doing it for a long time," says ex-U.S. ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro.Credit: Susan Walsh/AP
Darling of the American-Jewish community

The way Azerbaijan benefits from its Israeli ties in Washington has gradually become another important factor in the relationship.

Suleymanov spoke last year at the annual policy conference of AIPAC, the influential pro-Israel lobby group. Schneier observes that “Azerbaijan has successfully become one of the darlings of American-Jewish leadership.” The country’s support for Israel, he says, played a major role in that.

A notable moment that signaled the new reality occurred in December 2016, when the Azerbaijani Embassy arranged a Hanukkah celebration, together with major Jewish-American organizations, at the Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue.

While some Jewish groups critical of Donald Trump (including the Union for Reform Judaism and Anti-Defamation League) chose not to attend, close to 200 people did – including many members of the Jewish community. Among those in attendance were Malcolm Hoenlein, then-vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations; Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America; and Allen Fagin, executive vice president of the Orthodox Union.

A Jewish-American community leader who did not attend the Hanukkah party tells Haaretz: “It was one of the first events that showed the new dynamic in the Jewish community in the Trump era. The right-wing, Conservative groups going all-in on Trump; the more liberal and left-wing groups keeping a clear distance from him, even if that means not attending an event organized together with a Muslim country – something that in normal circumstances would be a cause for celebration.”

Schneier believes that, regardless of one’s political views, it is important “to demonstrate to the wider Muslim world that one of their own countries is celebrating its relationship with Israel, and receiving support and respect in the American Congress and in the American Jewish community. That sends a powerful message.”

Reaching the evangelicals

Suleymanov tells Haaretz that “people now cite Azerbaijan as an example for a country that has strong relations with Israel and is also an important member of the Muslim world. People ask, ‘If they can do it, why can’t others?’” he says.

“We remain active members of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, we have our own special connections to many fellow Muslim nations,” he adds. “We did not become isolated because of this. We showed that you can be very committed to your values and to being an important player in the Islamic community, and at the same time have normal relations with Israel.”

The ambassador acknowledges that the relationship has “helped with the American-Jewish community,” and says he first witnessed the effect while serving as Azerbaijan’s general consul in Los Angeles a decade ago. “I received a lot of support from the Jewish community from day one,” he recounts.

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The Trump International Hotel in Baku, Azerbaijan.
The Trump International Hotel in Baku, Azerbaijan.Credit: Aida Sultanova, AP
Suleymanov says Azerbaijan has “close friendships and cooperation” with leading Jewish-American organizations – and this is borne out by the Azerbaijani Embassy’s Twitter feed, which often includes tweets on events involving Israel and the U.S. Jewish community (including an appearance by Israeli ambassador to Washington Ron Dermer at last June’s celebration of Azerbaijan’s Republic Day). The April 18 event on Capitol Hill is also mentioned in a series of celebratory tweets.

“The next step for them, which we’ve been working on, is facilitating outreach to the evangelical, pro-Israel community," reveals Schneier, who is involved in interfaith work bringing together Jews, Christians and Muslims.

Schneier adds that before Aliyev spoke at the UN General Assembly last year, he had breakfast with “a dozen of top pro-Israel pastors,” and that a similar event was held with evangelical faith leaders when Azerbaijan’s foreign minister visited the United States last year.

The connection to the evangelicals is providing Azerbaijan with access to one of the most influential religious and political groups in the Trump era. Some 80 percent of evangelicals voted for Trump in the 2016 presidential election and remain overwhelmingly supportive of the president, according to recent polling – at least partially thanks to his decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to move the U.S. Embassy to the city.

One of the speakers at the recent event on Capitol Hill was Pastor Robert Stearns, an influential, pro-Israel evangelical. He praised Azerbaijan for the rare example it is setting of being a Muslim country with strong ties to Israel.

“It doesn’t matter if you’re a Christian nation or a Muslim nation. If you support Israel, you’re on the right side of history," Stearns tells Haaretz.

When asked how its outreach to the Jewish and evangelical communities has affected Azerbaijan’s ties to the Trump administration, Suleymanov says “it benefits” the United States “to have cooperation between allies, between Israel and the Islamic world. They support this and encourage the relationship to succeed."

He adds, however, that “we have a long-standing relationship with Israel that goes back many years. This is not a one-administration relationship for us.”

Trump, it should be noted, has his own personal history with Azerbaijan. This includes a failed attempt to build and open a hotel in Baku that reportedly included partnering with a family considered “notoriously corrupt” by U.S. diplomats. Work on the project led to a visit by Trump’s eldest daughter, Ivanka, to Baku in 2014. According to reports, it also involved Jason Greenblatt – who worked for Trump's company before joining the White House last year and becoming the president’s special envoy on Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

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Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro speaking at Bar-Ilan University, Ramat Gan, in December 2014.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro speaking at Bar-Ilan University, Ramat Gan, in December 2014. Credit: Matty Stern / U.S. Embassy Tel A
‘Old-school, smart Realpolitik’

Other countries seem to be adopting the Azeri approach and trying to utilize their relations with Israel to improve their own standing in Washington.

For example, there has been an uptick in the number of foreign leaders attending AIPAC’s conference in recent years. The leaders of two countries addressed members this year: Prime Minister Edi Rama of Albania, another Muslim-majority country that enjoys full diplomatic relations with Israel; and Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales, who received multiple standing ovations for his country's decision to move its embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Last year's conference, meanwhile, featured a speech by Rwandan President Paul Kagame – one of Israel’s closest partners in Africa.

Another notable example of a country trying to use its ties with Israel to gain support and influence in D.C. is Qatar – the Arab Emirate that, after being blockaded by its neighbors in the Gulf last year, began an outreach campaign to the pro-Israel community in the United States. This included highlighting its cooperation with Israel to help rebuild the Gaza Strip and promising to shelve an Al Jazeera documentary about the “Israel lobby” in Washington.

At the same time, Saudi Arabia – Qatar’s main rival within the Gulf region – has made some surprising moves and statements regarding Israel, including one by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that Israelis have the right to their own land. These all received praise from influential players in Washington.

“Each one of these states has its own particular reasons for improving its relations with Israel. But to the degree that they are leveraging it to enhance their standing in Washington – that is simply old-school, smart Realpolitik," says Vivian Bercovici, a former Canadian ambassador to Israel.

She also notes that “very shortly after Trump’s visit to the Middle East last year, Saudi ‘trial balloons’ about their close relationship with Israel were floated.” Trump’s “rock solid support for Israel,” Bercovici says, is having an effect on these developments.

Dan Shapiro, who was the U.S. ambassador to Israel from 2011 to 2016, points out that countries trying to use their ties to Israel in order to gain support in Washington isn't a new phenomenon. This is especially true with regards to Azerbaijan, he says, noting, “They’ve been doing it for a long time.”

He adds that “what seems to be new is the more overt use of this issue by Arab countries – in a way that will be well received in Washington.”

But Shapiro warns that countries expecting their Israeli ties to be the sole deciding factor in Washington could face disappointment. He mentions the example of Honduras, one of the first countries to follow in the Trump administration’s footsteps and announce plans to also move its embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Yet despite this statement, the Central American country has recently been on the receiving end of harsh criticism from Trump over immigration issues.

Relations with Israel “is only one issue among many, and eventually the policy is based on a range of American interests,” Shapiro observes.

Still, in the current political environment in Washington, publicizing a country's ties to Israel is usually a smart investment.

“It might not solve all of a country’s problems, but it certainly helps create a warm atmosphere in some places,” Shapiro says. “I think that’s a good development. It’s something we need to encourage.”

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your hate wont let you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol, heights of self-delusion.
 
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And interestingly enough, Azerbaijan is overwhelmingly Shia majority.

I bring that up the Shia part to make a point about Iranian (or the Saudis for that matter) international policies not necessarily revolving around sect or religion, even though at times the policies of both align with actors belonging to the majority sects in each country.

I wanted to bring this up as well, but was waiting for the right opportunity.

Azerbaycan is a Shia Muslim Turkish country, whose progenitors ruled the Safavi empire. Azerbaycan's ties with both Turkey and Pakistan are very close, esp with our airforces.

This fact is very uncomfortable for Iran and anti-Shia hate groups, because it destroys several of their propganda points.

1. Iran is not the sole spokesperson for the world's Shias.

2. Shia and Sunni Muslim unity is a reality and has a concrete example in Azerbaycan.

3. We Muslims can join together to form defense pacts and give political support to each other when confronted by antagonistic Non-Muslim states politically supported by the West or Russians.

4. Neither Pakistan, Turkey, nor Azerbaycan have poisonous sectarian policies (regardless of enemy rhetoric,) and represent responsible Muslim nations.


They will officially deny, just like PAF did in Feb 27 2019.

No one will willingly put US sanctions on itself.

yeah, azeris need better planners!!!

Rest assured, Turkey planners are there. They have experience fighting Russian and Iranian proxies.

Pakistan sent a new diplomatic head to Azerbaycan, which I believe signals aggressive support for Azerbaycan. We will find out later how far.
 
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They will officially deny, just like PAF did in Feb 27 2019.
No one will willingly put US sanctions on itself.

The official Armenian source of the shoot down is a ... post in facebook of Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman.... it's not something so much official.

Armenian have no cameras? it's something hard nowadays hide a fighter plane shoot down.
 
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The Collective Security Treaty Organization CSTO is some sort of NATO-lite and members below. Turkey attacking Armenia would trigger the retaliation from CSTO members.



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What is even more mind boggling is that Azerbaijan is a Shia majority country with over 85% of the population being Shia, yet Iran is vehemently against Azerbaijan and pro Armenia, yet on every other front Iran has successfully hijacked Shiaism to represent itself as the custodian of Shia Islam, not only that but it uses this representation of itself as a means to recruit Pakistani and Afghani Shias to fight it's wars and further spread it's sphere of influence in the levant.
Iran's relationship with Armenia is a historic one. They're not about to stab their allies in the back. Any discussions about the Shia angle are pretty pointless in my opinion.

Consider Hamas, Islamic Jihad, who are Sunni organizations but they align with Iran and not with KSA (the supposed "custodians" of sunnism).
 
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The official Armenian source of the shoot down is a ... post in facebook of Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman.... it's not something so much official.

Armenian have no cameras? it's something hard nowadays hide a fighter plane shoot down.

Armenians are not much different in their rhetoric than Indians or Serbs.

Azerbaycan Pres. Aliyev rightfully refers to them as fascists. There are a number of rabidly anti-Muslim fascist terror groups functioning in Armenia which are formed with the sole purpose to change demographics by violence to further the Armenian occupation of Azeri lands. Surprisingly some of which are supported by Iran.

It is best to wait for official confirmation from Azerbaycan.
 
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Armenians are not much different in their rhetoric than Indians or Serbs.

Azerbaycan Pres. Aliyev rightfully refers to them as fascists. There are a number of rabidly anti-Muslim fascist terror groups functioning in Armenia which are formed with the sole purpose to change demographics by violence to further the Armenian occupation of Azeri lands. Surprisingly some of which are supported by Iran.

It is best to wait for official confirmation from Azerbaycan.

I was seeing pics of Nagorno-Karabakh in google maps and I see several ancient churches and christian cross in a lot of places, it's not seemed a real Azeri land. It seems a defacto Armenian place since always.

Armenian people has reasons to untrust everybody (Armenian Genocide).

Azerbaijan has oil and it seem most countries prefer good relations with Azerbaijan.

Armenia has nothing. Maybe Iran support them to avoid a Armenian people invasion to Iran, in the same way China support NK.

And in these warmongering issues, to test weapons in real battles.
 
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So this war is escalating quickly with threats from Armenia of using Iskandar Ballistic missiles in case Turkey uses F-16

Now Armenia claims Turkish F16 has shot down Armenian SU-25, while Turkey denies.

Is anyone foreseeing Russia getting involved in this? Coz if they do then we have WW3 knocking on our doors. I believe in that scenario, in the bigger picture, NATO will quickly side with Turkey to settle scores with Russia.
 
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So this war is escalating quickly with threats from Armenia of using Iskandar Ballistic missiles in case Turkey uses F-16

Now Armenia claims Turkish F16 has shot down Armenian SU-25, while Turkey denies.

Is anyone foreseeing Russia getting involved in this? Coz if they do then we have WW3 knocking on our doors. I believe in that scenario, in the bigger picture, NATO will quickly side with Turkey to settle scores with Russia.

NATO involvement I don’t see unless their is a threat to mainland Europe. None cares if the conflict stays in MENA region.
 
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So this war is escalating quickly with threats from Armenia of using Iskandar Ballistic missiles in case Turkey uses F-16

Now Armenia claims Turkish F16 has shot down Armenian SU-25, while Turkey denies.

Is anyone foreseeing Russia getting involved in this? Coz if they do then we have WW3 knocking on our doors. I believe in that scenario, in the bigger picture, NATO will quickly side with Turkey to settle scores with Russia.

In 2016 was just a show of force of Azerbaijan. A way to distract Azeri people from Azerbaijan economic problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nagorno-Karabakh_clashes

I can't imagine NATO facing Russia, but less for Turkey. :lol:

Russia maybe take advantage of this to test weapons.

The fact is... nobody worries about what happens to Armenian people.

Armenia has a nuclear plant, they should develop a nuke and blow up Baku, to keep the Azeris and Turkish bullies far from Armenian people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

 
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