Azadi slogans raised by anti-CAB protesters in Assam

[El Sidd]

You should educate yourself.

NRC is not limited to Assam.

Assam is practically an independent country barring official recognition

 

[Trango Towers]

That's one enthusiastic crowd asking for freedom from illegal Bengalis.

Looks like Bengali people's days in Assam are now numbered.

Nice spin ...but we both know they are not ugly enough to be hindus

 

[A1Kaid]

For peace to exist in South Asia, India must be dissolved as it currently exists. Too many discontent people that don't identify with the idea or concept of 'India'. Essentially people in Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, and West Bengal feel occupied by India and want to be free. India will always suffer from civil unrest every month, every year, and every decade until it stops occupying people that are not 'Indian'.

Imagine if France, Germany, UK, Poland, Spain, and Italy all were in one country, there would be unrest, ethnic tensions, and constant political unrest and violence. You don't commonly see these issues in countries that are homogeneous. Much of India's unrest is due to its complex and forced diversity.

 

[SIPRA]

The better idea would be for the Muslims of India to embrace Christianity.

I believe that a far more better idea would be for you and other Indian Christians to embrace Islam, instead.

 

[Species]

That's one enthusiastic crowd asking for freedom from illegal Bengalis.

Looks like Bengali people's days in Assam are now numbered.

They are demanding freedom from the central government of India. Clearly, you haven't watched video. Even in the comments the Assamese people are posting nationalist slogans like Joy Ai Assom.

Some of the comments,

জয় আই অসম । সচাঁ কৈ অসম স্বাধীন হব লাগে

 

[PaulSimon]

I believe that a far more better idea would be for you and other Indian Christians to embrace Islam, instead.

Hindus and Muslims have animosity due to historical reasons.

There is no such animosity between Hindus and Christians.

This is the reason why it makes better sense for Muslims to embrace Christianity.

They are demanding freedom from the central government of India. Clearly, you haven't watched video. Even in the comments the Assamese people are posting nationalist slogans like Joy Ai Assom.

Some of the comments,

জয় আই অসম । সচাঁ কৈ অসম স্বাধীন হব লাগে

Of course they will raise the slogans against the central government as they see Modi siding with the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh.

If Assamese had/have the power, they would have cleansed all the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh from Assam in a heart beat. It has always been the central governments which stood between the Assamese and the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh.

 

[Species]

Of course they will raise the slogans against the central government as they see Modi siding with the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh.

If Assamese had/have the power, they would have cleansed all the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh from Assam in a heart beat. It has always been the central governments which stood between the Assamese and the illegal immigrant Bengalis from the Bangladesh.

Precisely. But most of mainland India supports granting citizenship to Hindu migrants, or the CAA in other words, which is staunchly opposed by the Northeast. The fault-lines are becoming wider.

 

[PaulSimon]

Precisely. But most of mainland India supports granting citizenship to Hindu migrants, or the CAA in other words, which is staunchly opposed by the Northeast. The fault-lines are becoming wider.

BJP plans to resettle Bengali Hindus from Assam to West Bengal once granting citizenship.

This will be a win for BJP in both Assam and West Bengal.

 

[Species]

BJP plans to resettle Bengali Hindus from Assam to West Bengal once granting citizenship.

This will be a win for BJP in both Assam and West Bengal.

Those who are already living in Assam won't move to West Bengal leaving everything behind, unless you can organize a pogrom to force them out. Legalizing these migrants would effectively make indigenous Assamese people a minority in the state.

 

[PaulSimon]

Those who are already living in Assam won't move to West Bengal leaving everything behind, unless you can organize a pogrom to force them out. Legalizing these migrants would effectively make indigenous Assamese people a minority in the state.

BJP is including Assam and North east in the inner line permit.

Either they go into the detention camps in Assam or obtain citizenship in Bengal.

My guess is that people would move to West Bengal to obtain citizenship rather than living in detention camps in Assam.

 

[Species]

BJP is including Assam and North east in the inner line permit.

Either they go into the detention camps in Assam or obtain citizenship in Bengal.

My guess is that people would move to West Bengal to obtain citizenship rather than living in detention camps in Assam.

Could you provide a source for that inner line permit?

That also sounds discriminatory against Bengalis. Hindi speakers can stay in Assam but a Bengali must go to the detention camps.

 

[PaulSimon]

Could you provide a source for that inner line permit?

That also sounds discriminatory against Bengalis. Hindi speakers can stay in Assam but a Bengali must go to the detention camps.

Not discriminatory as Assamese are against all illegal immigrants irrespective of their religion.



Explained: What is the Inner Line Permit and why is the Northeast clamouring for it?
The Inner Line Permit is issued by the concerned state government and can be availed both by applying online or in person. The permits issued are mostly of different kinds...

Alisha Rahaman Sarkar
Online Desk
The northeastern states of India have taken to the streets to protest the Citizenship (Amendment) Act approved by both Houses of the Parliament during the ongoing winter session.

Apart from seeking revocation of the Act, the states have also placed a demand for the Inner Line Permit (ILP) to be implemented across the northeast.

Following the passage of the Citizenship Bill, a violent protest broke out in Assam in which two protestors lost their lives in clashes with police. The protest quickly intensified and the violence trickled down to the neighbouring states of Tripura and Meghalaya.


All the streets in the seven sister states echoed the cry for an Inner Line Permit (ILP), a crucial demand in the debate surrounding the Act there.

As Meghalaya turned into a tinderbox, CM Conrad Sangma rushed to Delhi to meet Home Minister Amit Shah for the implementation of the ILP. Earlier, several civil society groups and political parties had contended that the Act will threaten the culture and language of the indigenous people of the northeast.

After conducting several meetings, Shah finally extended the ILP to Manipur making it the fourth state after Nagaland, Mizoram and Arunachal to become a part of the ILP system.

What is Inner Line Permit?

The Inner Line Permit is an official travel document that allows Indian citizens to stay in an area under the ILP system. The document is currently required by visitors to Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Nagaland and Mizoram.

The ILP is issued by the concerned state government and can be availed both by applying online or in person. The permits issued are mostly of different kinds, provided separately for tourists, tenants and for other purposes.

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The document states the dates of travel and specifies the particular areas in which the ILP holder can travel. It's illegal for the visitor to overstay the time granted in the permit.

How did the ILP come into existence?

In 1873, under the Bengal Eastern Frontier Regulation Act, the British, in a bid to protect the Crown's (commercial) interests, framed regulations restricting the entry and regulating the stay of outsiders in designated areas. The Act was brought in to prevent "British subjects" (Indians) from trading within these regions.

However, after partition, the Indian government replaced “British subjects” with “Citizen of India” and retained the ILP to protect the interests of the indigenous tribal communities of the Northeast.

What is ILP's connection with the Citizenship Act?

The Citizenship Act enables non-Muslim refugees (Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists, Parsis and Christians) from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who arrived in the country before December 31, 2014, to obtain Indian citizenship. Although the rest of mainland India is protesting the controversial Act for being anti-Muslim, for the northeast, the worry is entirely different. If the Act is implemented without the ILP, then the beneficiaries under CAB will become Indian citizens and will be allowed to settle anywhere in the country. However, the implementation of ILP bars the refugees from settling in the states under the ILP system.

Assam and Tripura have been up in arms against the Act because these states share the longest borders with Bangladesh and have been subjected to the highest influx of Bengali-speaking undocumented refugees since the partition.

Assam has been a hotbed of protests since the 1970s. The state witnessed a mass agitation against undocumented immigrants that began in 1979 and ended with the Assam Accord in 1985.

The Northeast is home to 238 indigenous tribes that constitute 26 per cent of the region’s population and the leaders' state that continued the influx of Bengali-speaking refugees will threaten their identity.

The North East Students’ Organisation, an umbrella group of all students’ bodies, in particular, has time and again reiterated its demand for the implementation of the Inner Line Permit (ILP) in all the states of the region to avoid this.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/na...-the-northeast-clamouring-for-it-2076129.html

 

[Species]

Not discriminatory as Assamese are against all illegal immigrants irrespective of their religion.

I said Hindi not Hindu.

Explained: What is the Inner Line Permit and why is the Northeast clamouring for it?
The Inner Line Permit is issued by the concerned state government and can be availed both by applying online or in person. The permits issued are mostly of different kinds...

Alisha Rahaman Sarkar
Online Desk
The northeastern states of India have taken to the streets to protest the Citizenship (Amendment) Act approved by both Houses of the Parliament during the ongoing winter session.

Apart from seeking revocation of the Act, the states have also placed a demand for the Inner Line Permit (ILP) to be implemented across the northeast.

Following the passage of the Citizenship Bill, a violent protest broke out in Assam in which two protestors lost their lives in clashes with police. The protest quickly intensified and the violence trickled down to the neighbouring states of Tripura and Meghalaya.


All the streets in the seven sister states echoed the cry for an Inner Line Permit (ILP), a crucial demand in the debate surrounding the Act there.

As Meghalaya turned into a tinderbox, CM Conrad Sangma rushed to Delhi to meet Home Minister Amit Shah for the implementation of the ILP. Earlier, several civil society groups and political parties had contended that the Act will threaten the culture and language of the indigenous people of the northeast.

After conducting several meetings, Shah finally extended the ILP to Manipur making it the fourth state after Nagaland, Mizoram and Arunachal to become a part of the ILP system.

What is Inner Line Permit?

The Inner Line Permit is an official travel document that allows Indian citizens to stay in an area under the ILP system. The document is currently required by visitors to Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Nagaland and Mizoram.

The ILP is issued by the concerned state government and can be availed both by applying online or in person. The permits issued are mostly of different kinds, provided separately for tourists, tenants and for other purposes.

ALSO READ | Citizenship Amendment Bill: A million Sitas for the earth to swallow

The document states the dates of travel and specifies the particular areas in which the ILP holder can travel. It's illegal for the visitor to overstay the time granted in the permit.

How did the ILP come into existence?

In 1873, under the Bengal Eastern Frontier Regulation Act, the British, in a bid to protect the Crown's (commercial) interests, framed regulations restricting the entry and regulating the stay of outsiders in designated areas. The Act was brought in to prevent "British subjects" (Indians) from trading within these regions.

However, after partition, the Indian government replaced “British subjects” with “Citizen of India” and retained the ILP to protect the interests of the indigenous tribal communities of the Northeast.

What is ILP's connection with the Citizenship Act?

The Citizenship Act enables non-Muslim refugees (Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists, Parsis and Christians) from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who arrived in the country before December 31, 2014, to obtain Indian citizenship. Although the rest of mainland India is protesting the controversial Act for being anti-Muslim, for the northeast, the worry is entirely different. If the Act is implemented without the ILP, then the beneficiaries under CAB will become Indian citizens and will be allowed to settle anywhere in the country. However, the implementation of ILP bars the refugees from settling in the states under the ILP system.

Assam and Tripura have been up in arms against the Act because these states share the longest borders with Bangladesh and have been subjected to the highest influx of Bengali-speaking undocumented refugees since the partition.

Assam has been a hotbed of protests since the 1970s. The state witnessed a mass agitation against undocumented immigrants that began in 1979 and ended with the Assam Accord in 1985.

The Northeast is home to 238 indigenous tribes that constitute 26 per cent of the region’s population and the leaders' state that continued the influx of Bengali-speaking refugees will threaten their identity.

The North East Students’ Organisation, an umbrella group of all students’ bodies, in particular, has time and again reiterated its demand for the implementation of the Inner Line Permit (ILP) in all the states of the region to avoid this.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/na...-the-northeast-clamouring-for-it-2076129.html

Okay, so this ILP is basically an internal visa system within India.

That would make the Northeast de facto independent, so yeah might ease the tensions for now.

 

[PaulSimon]

I said Hindi not Hindu.

North East people do not like Hindi either. They are against all non locals (non North East people)

Okay, so this ILP is basically an internal visa system within India.

That would make the Northeast de facto independent, so yeah might ease the tensions for now.

Yes. For all practical purposes North East India has always been a de facto country.

Non North East Indians from North or South or West or Eastern states of India need a visa/permit to visit North Eastern states and non North Eastern Indians cannot own any property in the North East Indian states.

Back in the 1970s, I visited Meghalaya on a Business trip for few months and I almost got killed as I was a South Indian. They hate none non locals.

 

[namefield_empty]

North East people do not like Hindi either.

Why do you say that brother? People in Arunachal and Nagaland can speak better Hindi than say the South Indians, and we Assamese aren't far behind. Bengali is a State language in Assam, in Barak Valley. 6th Schedule and Autonomous Council areas like BTAD have their own Bodo language. We Assamese are welcoming to people of all ethnicities. Unlike South India, here you will find villagers atleast trying to converse with outsiders in broken Hindi. Every Indian citizen is our dear guest and will be welcomed to Assam. Our fight is only against illegal Bangladeshis, specifically miyas.

I can only laugh at the miya thread creator when he claims that our Joi Aai Axom is some kind of azaadi chant. These Bangladeshis never grow up.

Non North East Indians from North or South or West or Eastern states of India need a visa/permit to visit North Eastern states and non North Eastern Indians cannot own any property in the North East Indian states

Factually incorrect, ILP is not applicable to Assam, Meghalaya, Manipur and Tripura, apart from Dimapur of Nagaland. Assam is historically and civilizationally connected to the rest of India. Those wanting ILP for Assam don't have any knowledge of history. For the protection of tribal customs 6th schedule of the Indian constitution is already applicable. Rest of the country don't need no permit to visit Assam.