Azadi march with Imran Khan, 2022 - Final round

[General Dong]

Someone else on here said, East Pakistan didn't break away from Pakistan, it broke away from the Establishment.

Pakistan must do the same. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The establishment is the problem.

 

[imadul]

We inherited institution from British Raj, which evolved from East India Company. So, it inherited the philosophy and tactics.

One historical correction though, crown took control of india from east india company after the War of Independence of 1857.
But you are essentially right, east india company has many Desi regiments too. And turncoats of Punjab provided raw material to the company army and then to British Raj and martyred Rai Ahmad Khan Kharal.
So this army have inherited those traits.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

We inherited institution from British Raj, which evolved from East India Company. So, it inherited the philosophy and tactics.

Ok then jinnah is also product of east india since we inherited the leader from a british system?
At least think before what you talk.

 

[Sugarcane]

Ok then jinnah is also product of east india since we inherited the leader from a british system.

How old are you?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

How old are you?

No how old are you...dont you know ..jinnah was Lincoln in Bred professional who was a resident of british raj.... ..all the governance machinery he inherited was british. Does that make him east india company rep?

 

[Sugarcane]

No how old are you...dont you know ..jinnah was Lincoln in Bred professional who was a resident of british raj.... ..all the governance machinery he inherited was british.

For institutes I have already said East India Co. which wasn't limited to forces only, our penal code is still British, so is culture of civil administration. Now, I want to know your logic of equating a person with intuitional culture and your age is important for me to understand your argument.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

For institutes I have already said East India Co. which wasn't limited to forces only, our penal code is still British, so is culture of civil administration. Now, I want to know your logic of equating a person with intuitional culture and your age is important for me to understand your argument.

Dude you should stop. I feel pity you trying to clutch straws. Ofcourse a man representing the british governance system. ...he was the first governor general.. and it was some years it took the crown to transfer control..
However all this doesnt make him or our army or our judiciary(which I vehemently hate) east india company!!!!!.. which was primarily an invader... our army is not an invader....they were all born in slavery...they were not the enslaver..

 

[Sugarcane]

Dude you should stop. I feel pity you trying to clutch straws. Ofcourse a man representing the british governance system. ...he was the first governor general.. and it was some years it took the crown to transfer control..
However all this doesnt make him or our army or our judiciary(which I vehemently hate) east india company!!!!!.. which was primarily an invader... our army is not an invader....they were all born in slavery...they were not the enslaver..

Clutching straw, I just want to keep it polite because only elite is beneficiary thus don't want to generalize. Yes, Quaid was part of system when he was member of congress but he left the congress and returned to fight case of Muslims on insistence of Muslims - and was sidelined by inherited system soon after.

Is this system not relying on same feudal and sardars till today like East India Company used to do?
Was FATA/PATA not being administrated by same polices/rules till recently?
Is same divide and rule policy still not being followed for political engineering?
and like company are commercial interests not involved?

If you don't know the answer of above then you have been living under rock.

 

[Sal12]

Dude you should stop. I feel pity you trying to clutch straws. Ofcourse a man representing the british governance system. ...he was the first governor general.. and it was some years it took the crown to transfer control..
However all this doesnt make him or our army or our judiciary(which I vehemently hate) east india company!!!!!.. which was primarily an invader... our army is not an invader....they were all born in slavery...they were not the enslaver..

Pak Army as an institution was created, trained by British before 1947 and this was part of British Indian Army. Pak army still follows the legacy of British Indian army and so is Indian army.

Jinnah was an individual who worked most of his life as an independent Barrister. Please do not equate 2.

 

[Sugarcane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1521924480054198272

Pak Army as an institution was created, trained by British before 1947 and this was part of British Indian Army. Pak army still follows the legacy of British Indian army and so is Indian army.

Jinnah was an individual who worked most of his life as an independent Barrister. Please do not equate 2.

Even batmen for officers were in practice and discontinued by Musharraf.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Pak Army as an institution was created, trained by British before 1947 and this was part of British Indian Army.

Toh qaid kia Lincoln inn mai Sharia law parh rahay thai..

Muslim league and other parties were also created in british raj after a nod from the crown realizing the difference of cultures and religion that existed in their empire.
Dont embarrass yourselves by this lame mudslinging of army.. this will come back to hurt you...

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Dude you should stop. I feel pity you trying to clutch straws. Ofcourse a man representing the british governance system. ...he was the first governor general.. and it was some years it took the crown to transfer control..
However all this doesnt make him or our army or our judiciary(which I vehemently hate) east india company!!!!!.. which was primarily an invader... our army is not an invader....they were all born in slavery...they were not the enslaver..

source: https://blogs.dunyanews.tv/28818/

 

[Sal12]

Toh qaid kia Lincoln inn mai Sharia law parh rahay thai..

Muslim league and other parties were also created in british raj after a nod from the crown realizing the difference of cultures and religion that existed in their empire.
Dont embarrass yourselves by this lame mudslinging of army.. this will come back to hurt you...

Quaid studied in Lincoln as a private individual. This is not equal to British Indian army which was as an institution created, trained and equipped by British to protect its interests. Among one of the British interest was to keep India its colony by force.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Clutching straw, I just want to keep it polite because only elite is beneficiary thus don't want to generalize. Yes, Quaid was part of system when he was member of congress but he left the congress and returned to fight case of Muslims on insistence of Muslims - and was sidelined by inherited system soon after.

Is this system not relying on same feudal and sardars till today like East India Company used to do?
Was FATA/PATA not being administrated by same polices/rules till recently?
Is same divide and rule policy still not being followed for political engineering?
and like company are commercial interests not involved?

If you don't know the answer of above then you have been living under rock.

So you are going to use some conditions that existed back then as well as today to justify army as east indian company.. but cherry picker..what about the rest of the state machinery and history with it.. no no that's kosher..

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Quaid studied in Lincoln as a private individual

Quaid studied in Lincoln inn as subject of queen and British state.

This is not equal to British Indian army which was as an institution created, trained and equipped by British to protect its interests. Among one of the British interest was to keep India its colony by force.

Ya and jinnah was made member of council of Bombay. Was he working against the British interests there?
Another British interest was to keep this subcontinent subservient once it exists by leaving behind a judicial system that inherits its aspiration from the british system.