Azadi March Updates & Discussions

[Shane]

Have a look at this!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193624882610933760

Look how he is exposing himself. This guy is a known imitator and joker on youtube who spares no one when making fun...he crosses all limits of decency while making fun of others...what kind of Aalim does that???... who even makes fun of and imitates reciters of The Quran recitation if their tarteel is off...no one is spared from this joker... Now he is exposing his own twisted taste for coming up with sleazy examples.

 

[AZ1]

Have a look at this!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193624882610933760

I Stopped listening to this youtuber guy. What he does he makes 4-5 scenario videos on same situation and then when one hits he say look didn't we say this on this video that this will happen.
And if something not happened in those 4-5 scenario videos he bring Gumnaam hero into new video that it didn't happen because of ap ke gumnaam hero nei situation simahli. So public like wow gumnaam hero likes 20000

 

[Path-Finder]

Look how he is exposing himself. This guy is a known imitator and joker on youtube who spares no one when making fun...he crosses all limits of decency while making fun of others...what kind of Aalim does that???... who even makes fun of and imitates reciters of The Quran recitation if their tarteel is off...no one is spared from this joker... Now he is exposing his own twisted taste for coming up with sleazy examples.

malaun's strength is his die hard poojari indoctrinated and NOT educated in Deen or Fiqh. If malaun says to jump off a bridge they will do that to!

But the harami has decided to go towards this path then so be it.

I Stopped listening to this youtuber guy. What he does he makes 4-5 scenario videos on same situation and then when one hits he say look didn't we say this on this video that this will happen.
And if something not happened in those 4-5 scenario videos he bring Gumnaam hero into new video that it didn't happen because of ap ke gumnaam hero nei situation simahli. So public like wow gumnaam hero likes 20000

I am not forcing anyone to listen to anyone!

 

[Shane]

Fazlu has put a demand of becoming president.

This is not known to other two parties as well. Fazlu is managing three different negotiations at the moment. 1) With known government committee. 2) Chaudhries. 3) confidential

Most importantly, this demand is not an actual demand. This is to create room for the next demand, Senate chairman post.

SO FAR, IK has given him baba ji ka thullu. However, considering IKs U turns, there's a possibility .

Upon agreement, Fazlu will change his stance in Parliament and outside gradually, and the post to be given within one year.

So any guess on what is going to be the declared and public face saving for Fazlu ? you know, to feed his crowd and dwindling political standing he sensationally resurrected when he landed in Islamabad.

How about an out of the box solution since Chaudhry brothers are involved...A Saudi Delegation led by some Imam might land in Islamabad to convince Fazlu in larger interest to meet IK and end differences, actually shake hands and hugs etc... all hail new chairman senate down the line as you stated, lol. Why not even Chinese ambassador might mediate between the two since CPEC is being mentioned, lol... All other options of ending dharna look violent.

On a serious not, if Fazlu ego is not managed somehow, he might incite violence if not given his due share in the political pie and find himself forced by Hamid mir mirasy media to create his own face saving.

 

[Zibago]

After coming home tonight, I decided to watch the whole speech of Imran Khan given on the occasion of celebrating our Prophet Mohammad SAW. I watched it to guess what message he wants to convey from his heart or does he want to convince us on a deal. Despite what the news anchors tell us this and that about IK's changed convictions towards deal...IK did not even try to sell people any deal in his speech but gave the most powerful argument against it...Imran Khan is still looking like standing his ground on NO DEAL TO ANY CORRUPT...listen to the part specifically about what IK thinks about deal:

This is the Imran Khan I voted for. This is the Imran Khan I want to resign but let a deal happen... I think that the spark of hope I murmured about a few posts ago as quoted above is still a glimmer or hope that Maryam is not going to be released until Nawaz's health gets better or the sharifs pay up the amount in a plea bargain.

I am still not ready to believe that IK can lie while speaking and giving example about the truth and noble character Prophet Mohammad SAW.

What do you think @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @Farah Sohail @Zibago @IceCold @Path-Finder @koolio @RIWWIR is it a deal like the anchors keep selling us their churan or is IK only ready to allow Nawaz on health grounds or gather money for plea bargain with Maryam as collateral.

It aint over till the fat lady sings

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193745289141727232

 

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[IceCold]

What do you think is it a deal like the anchors keep selling us their churan or is IK only ready to allow Nawaz on health grounds or gather money for plea bargain with Maryam as collateral.

After nawaz deal i am 100% confirm that there are forces which are beyond Imran Khan's control. I think IK has been conveyed a message quietly to have some flexibility in his approach even if he shows all tough on the main screen which he is doing. Otherwise he will lose support of the people who brought him to power on his promises of no more compromises and no more NRO. Otherwise why would Naeem-ul-Haq give statements like Nawaz Sharif health is serious and he needs medically treatment. Today SMQ gave similar suggestion to Bilawal meaning one can expect a very similar approach towards Zardari in coming days. After that PMLN and PPP will be out of picture and government will be allowed to continue working without much opposition. I mean we will continue to hear all those criticizing on TV but nothing concrete.
The country has started to show effects of betterment, Pakistan's image has started to get better internationally, there are chances of increased investments, will all this comes a target on your back both internally as well as externally and sometimes both in coherence. With Kashmir and India itching on the border to Taliban reemerging in Afghanistan as a major force, Pakistan is stretched. In these circumstances, mullah Fazool decided to go on a march to extract maximum benefit. He was of the view that PMLN and PPP will also join him and they would had if the deal had not been struck. With Nawaz gone PMLN backed out and with Zardari also getting similar treatment, PPP will back out too. Now comes this Fazool admi, with him I am all for giving him a danda that he will remember for a life time. PMLN still enjoys massive support in Punjab so if they had joined hands with mullah Fazool things would had been very different and difficult however now he is alone. He only has couple of thousand of supporters with him which can easily be tackled once the government decides too. Alternatively this Fazool admi can be accommodated as @PakSword said but this is something i for one am totally against. Even if he is a small fish, the whole concept that a country can be held hostage by a person who does not represent more than 2% should be dealt with an iron fist. If not, i am afraid anyone with few thousand supporters would than come to Islamabad for a deal. This cannot be allowed.
Yes ideally this should never have happened with PMLN and PPP as well but than we have to keep ground realities in mind as well. Ground realities are that these haramkhors have a solid base in Punjab, they have a solid base in bureaucracy which is resisting any change the government tries to make, these have judges in pockets specially of high courts. The weak government of IK cannot fight them all. It will be long over before that. I think the establishment does not want that at this stage, hence a message to PM khan to let it happen while maintaining his tough stance is something everyone can work with.

 

[PakSword]

So any guess on what is going to be the declared and public face saving for Fazlu ? you know, to feed his crowd and dwindling political standing he sensationally resurrected when he landed in Islamabad.

I think... not sure, that there will be a tight goli (if Fazlu's demands are accepted). such as forming a judicial commission, having reelections in certain constituencies, a promise not to make any changes in the blasphemy law etc etc

But is a goli really required? To me, Fazlu's supporters are like herd of sheep and Fazlu is a guard dog.. where ever he takes them, they will go without asking any questions..

Questions are only asked by PTI supporters. supporters like you, who aren't shy of criticizing IK..

 

[Shane]

After nawaz deal i am 100% confirm that there are forces which are beyond Imran Khan's control. I think IK has been conveyed a message quietly to have some flexibility in his approach even if he shows all tough on the main screen which he is doing. Otherwise he will lose support of the people who brought him to power on his promises of no more compromises and no more NRO.

The above has indeed come to the fore as clear as day light out of all the chaos relating to Nawaz's health.

I think... not sure, that there will be a tight goli (if Fazlu's demands are accepted). such as forming a judicial commission, having reelections in certain constituencies, a promise not to make any changes in the blasphemy law etc etc

Fazlu gangs waging tongues, imbacillic knowledge, self-centeredness, religious accusations, hatred for state and militant street power has raised so many red flags that this may be the first but should also be the last time this lot is allowed to hold a blackmail factory enmass on the streets of Islamabad.

 

[Zibago]

Fazlu gangs waging tongues, imbacillic knowledge, self-centeredness, religious accusations, hatred for state and militant street power has raised so many red flags that this may be the first but should also be the last time this lot is allowed to hold a blackmail factory enmass on the streets of Islamabad.

Dude I was like inside the dharna right infront of the container there are hardly 3000 people it isnt an issue of the scale people make it out to be

Questions are only asked by PTI supporters. supporters like you, who aren't shy of criticizing IK..

We are with PTI for Pakistan and those who wish to make their country better would and should ask hard questions

 

[PakSword]

After nawaz deal i am 100% confirm that there are forces which are beyond Imran Khan's control. I think IK has been conveyed a message quietly to have some flexibility in his approach even if he shows all tough on the main screen which he is doing. Otherwise he will lose support of the people who brought him to power on his promises of no more compromises and no more NRO. Otherwise why would Naeem-ul-Haq give statements like Nawaz Sharif health is serious and he needs medically treatment. Today SMQ gave similar suggestion to Bilawal meaning one can expect a very similar approach towards Zardari in coming days. After that PMLN and PPP will be out of picture and government will be allowed to continue working without much opposition. I mean we will continue to hear all those criticizing on TV but nothing concrete.

There are two groups in PTI..
One (nazaryati) group is totally against releasing NS no matter what.. Asad Umar, Murad Saeed, Shahryar Afridi and others who have no record of corruption are still putting pressure on IK to do what he can to stop them from going unless a public plea bargain doesn't happen. They are of the view that their politics depends on anti corruption and ONE PAKISTAN stances.. Good thing is that they are providing social media feedback to IK...

Even Sheikh Rasheed is against it.

However, a more powerful group, having links with power corridors, is hell bent on releasing Nawaz and get whatever is coming.

 

[Zibago]

However, a more powerful group, having links with power corridors, is hell bent on releasing Nawaz and get whatever is coming.

I have mix feelings on it
If NAwaz goes without Mariyam I got not problem

One (nazaryati) group is totally against releasing NS no matter what.. Asad Umar, Murad Saeed, Shahryar Afridi and others who have no record of corruption are still putting pressure on IK to do what he can to stop them from going unless a public plea bargain doesn't happen. They are of the view that their politics depends on anti corruption and ONE PAKISTAN stances.. Good thing is that they are providing social media feedback to IK...

Using delaying and confusion tactics
Smart
https://urdu.arynews.tv/yasmin-rash...l-boards-response-to-2-lines-is-insufficient/

 

[IceCold]

There are two groups in PTI..
One (nazaryati) group is totally against releasing NS no matter what.. Asad Umar, Murad Saeed, Shahryar Afridi and others who have no record of corruption are still putting pressure on IK to do what he can to stop them from going unless a public plea bargain doesn't happen. They are of the view that their politics depends on anti corruption and ONE PAKISTAN stances.. Good thing is that they are providing social media feedback to IK...

Even Sheikh Rasheed is against it.

However, a more powerful group, having links with power corridors, is hell bent on releasing Nawaz and get whatever is coming.

The other group is led by SMQ if i am not wrong. Even today he was saying on tv advising what Bilawal should be doing for Zardari. I mean under what capacity did he do that when PM is saying the exact opposite yesterday. Who else? Jangair Tareen wouldnt do that he usually in the opposite camp of SMQ.

 

[PakSword]

Using delaying and confusion tactics
Smart
https://urdu.arynews.tv/yasmin-rash...l-boards-response-to-2-lines-is-insufficient/

Lolll.

The other group is led by SMQ if i am not wrong. Even today he was saying on tv advising what Bilawal should be doing for Zardari. I mean under what capacity did he do that when PM is saying the exact opposite yesterday. Who else? Jangair Tareen wouldnt do that he usually in the opposite camp of SMQ.

https://urdu.arynews.tv/nawaz-sharif-name-to-be-removed-from-ecl-today-governor-punjab/

 

[Shane]

Dude I was like inside the dharna right infront of the container there are hardly 3000 people it isnt an issue of the scale people make it out to be

Yes, I'm a regular tourist there too, lol. There are 2000 Ansarul Islam in total. About 1500 of them sit in front of container in lines of 15 foot gap in between lines... that fills about half of the TV screen as seen from camera above containers and camera cranes.

About 1500 to 2000 and some times more gather to attend the jalsa beyond the ansar lines and the optics are complete.