Azadi March Updates & Discussions

[Norwegian]

All traitors supporting Maulana.

 

[Shane]

The opposition can cry all the croc tears they want but Imran Khan has given Fazlu as much a free hand to hold this March even surpassing Zardari era march of Dr.Padri...

This sunday bazar parking area now dharna ground was cleared, evened out and sprayed with water from CDA tankers by PTI Government to facilitate Opposition march just as IK promised to facilitate any dharna in his government...

@Dubious @PakSword @Mangus Ortus Novem I call it a bad political move by PTI still and a very brave move that may turn out to hurt PTI but KUDOS to IK for keeping his word...Eat your heart out Opposition Dogs.... Not talking about you @Retired Troll , you are like my brother dear:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1189930666063990784

 

[Norwegian]

I call it a bad political move by PTI still

Not a bad move. IK is giving them complete freedom to expose themselves as anti-Pakistani thugs.

 

[PakSword]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/imra...y-hakomat-chala-rha-hai-shehbaz-sharif.641598

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fazlur-rehman-gives-pm-imran-2-days-to-dissolve-the-govt.641602

Can we merge the above threads here?

it is getting difficult following all three together..

@The Eagle @Dubious

 

[The Eagle]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/imra...y-hakomat-chala-rha-hai-shehbaz-sharif.641598

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fazlur-rehman-gives-pm-imran-2-days-to-dissolve-the-govt.641602

Can we merge the above threads here?

it is getting difficult following all three together..

@The Eagle @Dubious

The 2 days ultimatum & shahbaz sharif's statement, threads be kept separate whereby, Azadi March updates be done here. Those are two different topics, I think.

Let me adjust in different way.

 

[Zibago]

Depends on T fortitude and game of bluff of both parties; Those in power vs Fazlu.

The total number of security is now roughly at 40k in Islamabad so not convinced he can pull a big one

Political bargaining position of PMLN has increased, the medium sized jalsa ground is a propaganda double edged sword. On the one hand it proves to the people in the know that the Fazlu crowd is around 20k, but on the other hand the crowd in such a venue looks sizable and larger on TV screens, when in fact it is just a one and a half football field area at max. With fazlu yellow danda band taking up half a football field space in front of the stage leaves little space for the rest of the crowd and the people on top of buses at the fringes makes a good full visual effect on TV too.

That was exactly the plan so they get a face saving and go away why do you think the government gave that place along the Kashmir highway which has no previous political value and was just part of the green belt a few weeks ago?
PMLN,s platelet drama has gone in the rear view and now after court rejected the treatment abroad they know they are done for

If PMLN being the largest opposition party in Punjab, may decide to put some pressure, then they can bring in thousands of its people on weekend for their benefit for even better optics to show establishment that they deserve more political room and respite from accountability. It all depends on how each of these stake holders play their cards.

PMLN is not in a position to call in their followers they couldnt do it when their leader was being sent to jail
Their street power consisted of religious fanatics that they lost to tlp and paid goons that they cant afford without state machinery

Don't forget the factor of Weather which has been overcast today in the evening... If it rains then it would surely put a dampener on the Dharna crowds aspirations of sticking around for long.

Ok off topic most of their followers were just wandering around in parks and enjoying the sights

 

[Norwegian]

The total number of security is now roughly at 40k in Islamabad so not convinced he can pull a big one

That was exactly the plan so they get a face saving and go away why do you think the government gave that place along the Kashmir highway which has no previous political value and was just part of the green belt a few weeks ago?
PMLN,s platelet drama has gone in the rear view and now after court rejected the treatment abroad they know they are done for

PMLN is not in a position to call in their followers they couldnt do it when their leader was being sent to jail
Their street power consisted of religious fanatics that they lost to tlp and paid goons that they cant afford without state machinery

Ok off topic most of their followers were just wandering around in parks and enjoying the sights

Dharna has flopped. What's left is empty threats and rhetoric against the institutions.

 

[SIPRA]

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All traitors supporting Maulana.

دلے کو ملے دلا کر کر لمبے ہاتھ

 

[Shane]

Ok off topic most of their followers were just wandering around in parks and enjoying the sights

Yes, to the outsider and the poorest of the poor Madrasa Student devoid of recreation visits but bound to basic sustenance, this dharna is indeed like a picnic and a sight seeing, enjoying visit.

The serious side now coming to the fore after Fazlu speech, call it personal human intel @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ps3linux @Path-Finder @IceCold ... the plan seems to be to melt some of his followers in to Islamabad population where possible, go to local madrasa or support where possible inside islamabad...have seen them in small batches at adjacent sectors this evening with their back packs and black and white signature sticks in hand. The orders / strategy seems to be to disperse as much as possible, even in small numbers, but plan to get to Dchok from unrestricted side of sectors adjacent to dharna venue towards areas from where approach to D chock may be quite easier when the time or call comes to move.

While everyone would be saying that dharna attendance is falling but it looks like a planned strategy as described above. Don't take the belligerent Fazlu lot for utter fools, they have been preparing their strategies and plan A B C or whatever for a while now...and have had help in their planning too.

The Hamid Mir Mirasi character for weeks has been awkwardly acting like a joker keeping both hands on his mouth as if deliberately over acting to show, all be it in his signature mediocre manner, that he knows a lot about fasad planned by Fazlu. His attendance and speech in Dharna belies his inner animosity against the state in support of PTI Government. This dharna is as much against the state as is against IK.

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes, to the outsider and the poorest of the poor Madrasa Student devoid of recreation visits but bound to basic sustenance, this dharna is indeed like a picnic and a sight seeing, enjoying visit.

The serious side now coming to the fore after Fazlu speech, call it personal human intel @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ps3linux @Path-Finder @IceCold ... the plan seems to be to melt some of his followers in to Islamabad population where possible, go to local madrasa or support where possible inside islamabad...have seen them in small batches at adjacent sectors this evening with their back packs and black and white signature sticks in hand. The orders / strategy seems to be to disperse as much as possible, even in small numbers, but plan to get to Dchok from unrestricted side of sectors adjacent to dharna venue towards areas from where approach to D chock may be quite easier when the time or call comes to move.

While everyone would be saying that dharna attendance is falling but it looks like a planned strategy as described above. Don't take the belligerent Fazlu lot for utter fools, they have been preparing their strategies and plan A B C or whatever for a while now...and have had help in their planning too.

The Hamid Mir Mirasi character for weeks has been awkwardly acting like a joker keeping both hands on his mouth as if deliberately over acting to show, all be it in his signature mediocre manner, that he knows a lot about fasad planned by Fazlu. His attendance and speech in Dharna belies his inner animosity against the state in support of PTI Government. This dharna is as much against the state as is against IK.

The following picture will reduce the seriousness of my post above so don't take it in that context that Ahsan Iqbal is planning something sinister with Fazlu... he is indeed looking like just talking about routes... but just to give you an idea that they have been planning at many levels.
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As long as it destroys malaun and its politics or rather blackmailing forever then let it do its silliness. Do you remember once upon a time some person pretending to be from ISI met malaun diesel and conned them out of a lot of money?

People who act all clever are the ones that get hit the hardest. This appears to be malauns last fight against Pakistan so let's end it here.

Yes, to the outsider and the poorest of the poor Madrasa Student devoid of recreation visits but bound to basic sustenance, this dharna is indeed like a picnic and a sight seeing, enjoying visit.

The serious side now coming to the fore after Fazlu speech, call it personal human intel @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ps3linux @Path-Finder @IceCold ... the plan seems to be to melt some of his followers in to Islamabad population where possible, go to local madrasa or support where possible inside islamabad...have seen them in small batches at adjacent sectors this evening with their back packs and black and white signature sticks in hand. The orders / strategy seems to be to disperse as much as possible, even in small numbers, but plan to get to Dchok from unrestricted side of sectors adjacent to dharna venue towards areas from where approach to D chock may be quite easier when the time or call comes to move.

While everyone would be saying that dharna attendance is falling but it looks like a planned strategy as described above. Don't take the belligerent Fazlu lot for utter fools, they have been preparing their strategies and plan A B C or whatever for a while now...and have had help in their planning too.

The Hamid Mir Mirasi character for weeks has been awkwardly acting like a joker keeping both hands on his mouth as if deliberately over acting to show, all be it in his signature mediocre manner, that he knows a lot about fasad planned by Fazlu. His attendance and speech in Dharna belies his inner animosity against the state in support of PTI Government. This dharna is as much against the state as is against IK.

The following picture will reduce the seriousness of my post above so don't take it in that context that Ahsan Iqbal is planning something sinister with Fazlu... he is indeed looking like just talking about routes... but just to give you an idea that they have been planning at many levels.
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that is a CPEC poster and the pic is old. but this old pic is the one that speaks the most.

 

[Shane]

As long as it destroys malaun and its politics or rather blackmailing forever then let it do its silliness. Do you remember once upon a time some person pretending to be from ISI met malaun diesel and conned them out of a lot of money?

People who act all clever are the ones that get hit the hardest. This appears to be malauns last fight against Pakistan so let's end it here.



that is a CPEC poster and the pic is old. but this old pic is the one that speaks the most.

My bad, it is indeed. Thank you for the correction. This time around, Fazlu seems like he has thrown the Gauntlet in hopes that establishment may buy his bluff or he becomes Lal Masjid crazy like ... funny how Hamid Mir was similarly involved in inciting Ghazi and making him feel like his Izzat was on the line in a do or die situation...This looks like exactly what he is doing encouraging Fazlu agaisnt the state... this is Hamid Mir's own little game within the larger canvas, to get Fazlu to go all out against the State like his other friend as in Ghazi of Lal Masjid...

 

[Imran Khan]

fazlu is talking about country and khusra about kashmir - qayamat bus aany wali hai

 

[Shane]

Sorry yaar, its weekend so travelled on M2 between Lahore and Rawalpindi, get off at chakri and then to our other farm house. I left lahore at about 12pm on the entire motorway 316 km of my travel, I saw only 3 cars of PMLN supporters, 1 bus of halwa group oh yes Ahsan Iqbal in his prado. I guess most of the participants either came with him or came from KPK.

Yes he is in a mood to cause ruckus, loss of life and then expecting martial law so that they would cry in front of international players about restoration of their democracy.

MarasiMedia doesn't respect Shiq no. 6 ... and now already playing MeTooCard.

Billo was given all the protocol... I guess some are just jealous!!!

My bad, it is indeed. Thank you for the correction. This time around, Fazlu seems like he has thrown the Gauntlet in hopes that establishment may buy his bluff or he becomes Lal Masjid crazy like ... funny how Hamid Mir was similarly involved in inciting Ghazi and making him feel like his Izzat was on the line in a do or die situation...This looks like exactly what he is doing encouraging Fazlu agaisnt the state... this is Hamid Mir's own little game within the larger canvas, to get Fazlu to go all out against the State like his other friend as in Ghazi of Lal Masjid...

Like clock work, Hamid Mir spewing his venom of violence as ominous while covering with words like Government should be cautious...Hamid Mir adds: "I think Molana wants more that just IK resignation"...watch:

Lay kay rahain gay Aazadi...Ham cheen kay lain gay Aazadi...

No... this is not Srinagar and not against Modi Government but Islamabad and against Government of Pakistan, thanks to FazlurRehman led opposition out to save their corrupt political existence.

The Slogans that Modi is facing in Kashmir has been balanced out by the gift of this slogan by Fazlur Rehman to Modi against Imran Khan.

Not the first time that Fazl has come to the rescue of Modi RSS lot...his Ansarul Islam Danda Band gifted the matching optics to RSS Extremist Uniformed Sanghis who get militant training that Pakistan was exposing but these pictures are a set back to Pakistan's narrative that was use by India to show the pics of Danda Band to FATF delegates on the sideline of recent evaluation of Pakistan's efforts against curbing terror financing.

FazlurRehman has indeed damaged Pakistan's cause and narrative against India and his actions and political movement is a huge loss to Pakistan that would continue to hurt our narrative at international level for years to come.

 

[sparten]

The serious side now coming to the fore after Fazlu speech, call it personal human intel @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ps3linux @Path-Finder @IceCold ... the plan seems to be to melt some of his followers in to Islamabad population where possible, go to local madrasa or support where possible inside islamabad...have seen them in small batches at adjacent sectors this evening with their back packs and black and white signature sticks in hand. The orders / strategy seems to be to disperse as much as possible, even in small numbers, but plan to get to Dchok from unrestricted side of sectors adjacent to dharna venue towards areas from where approach to D chock may be quite easier when the time or call comes to move.

So mass of people, the only advantage he has, and lose it? He breaks into small penny packets. In the city with the most advanced surveillance apparatus on the planet? So they Government guys can easily capture them?

While everyone would be saying that dharna attendance is falling but it looks like a planned strategy as described above. Don't take the belligerent Fazlu lot for utter fools, they have been preparing their strategies and plan A B C or whatever for a while now...and have had help in their planning too.

So does the State.

 

[Zibago]

The serious side now coming to the fore after Fazlu speech, call it personal human intel @Mangus Ortus Novem @PakSword @ps3linux @Path-Finder @IceCold ... the plan seems to be to melt some of his followers in to Islamabad population where possible, go to local madrasa or support where possible inside islamabad...have seen them in small batches at adjacent sectors this evening with their back packs and black and white signature sticks in hand. The orders / strategy seems to be to disperse as much as possible, even in small numbers, but plan to get to Dchok from unrestricted side of sectors adjacent to dharna venue towards areas from where approach to D chock may be quite easier when the time or call comes to move.

There is police outside all major madrassas in Islamabad to a degree
If any move like that is made expect an operation sweep