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Azadi March !! Is a threat to national / provincial security ? IK's intentions .. It's a POLL

Azadi March !! Will it turn into an ISIS type march ?


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I'll just say two things:

1- Comparing this with ISIS is completely absurd. Comparing it with the early events in Ukraine and Middle East uprising is maybe a bit more appropriate.

2- It's Qadri we should be worried about, Imran Khan hasn't called or threatened a countrywide protest or looting spree, his demands are reopening of constituencies.

Not that I support PTI's stance here.
 
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You are a very frustrated old man. I suggest you return to Pakistan and make your own political party. If clowns like Nawaz, Altaf, Imran and Molvi Deisel can find supporters I'm sure you too will find some from the nearest psychiatric hospital.

One, I am not old. I am 32. Second, I have nothing to do with your political system or the country. I am happy being where I am. Three, I don't care about your politicians. I do care about the people across the world. I write on many other forums and frankly speaking, online communities for nations like Sudan, and Ethiopia have more sense, democracy and nationalism that I've seen compared to the Pakistani community (sadly enough). Check out your ranking on the worst / most corrupted nations, many African countries that the modern world doesn't think highly off, are way above you guys. I am not writing this to insult your country, I am writing this to let people like you know that it is the PEOPLE who decide the fate for their country and make decisions in their nation's best interest to go forward. You guys are too busy being divided in ethnicity, race and groups focused politics and everyone wants their ethnic guy to win. That's very tribal mentality and this kind of crap is what puts Pakistan in such a weird position on the world stage.
 
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The Joker (Imran Khan/TUQ): Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... *do* things. (The Dark Knight).....enough said!
 
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Opinion
Azadi March
Dr Farrukh Saleem
Sunday, August 10, 2014


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Capital suggestion

Of the fifty-two playing cards in the deck, our politicians have handed over four aces to the GHQ. The generals will now play those aces in the best interest of the GHQ or what the GHQ considers the best national interest. General Raheel Sharif is now the undisputed chief arbitrator of the entire political game and he will play each and every one of the four aces whenever and wherever he deems fit. The GHQ must have already designed its ‘conflict and cooperation matrix’ in a way that maximizes what the GHQ considers the best national interest.

The success of the Azadi March depends on two things: number of protesters and the intensity of violence. If the protesters are in the tens of thousands then PM Nawaz Sharif would be negotiating from a position of strength. If the protesters are in the hundreds of thousands then Imran Khan will have an upper hand. If the protesters moving towards Islamabad are in the hundreds of thousands then General Raheel Sharif would be inclined to exercise the Kayani Option (whereby Kayani forced Zardari to bring about the restoration of the chief justice).

The success of the Azadi March depends on two factors: the moral battle and the street fight. To be certain, violence by the police will weaken Nawaz Sharif’s hands and hasten the process of unseating the perpetrators of violence. Imran Khan would have to win both the moral battle and the street fight.

The Azadi March revolves around three things: money, street power and the power of incumbency. Imran Khan will be using both money and street power at his disposal while PM Nawaz Sharif has the added advantage of incumbency to counter Imran Khan. The Azadi March will be a dynamic process and the interaction of the police and the protesters will determine the final price that would have to be paid by the PML-N.

In the current scenario, individual frustration is widespread – and individual frustration is turning into collective aggression. Collective aggression can lead to one of three things: anarchy, change of government or a revolution.

In the current scenario, there are powerful political, economic and social drivers that could drive the protestors to violence. In case of extreme violence, the GHQ will be forced into exercising the Kakar Option (whereby Kakar pressurised both Ghulam Ishaq Khan and Nawaz Sharif into resigning).

In March 2009, the GHQ’s job was easier as the only demand was the restoration of the judges. In the current scenario, there’s a whole set of demands: early elections, interim government, election reforms and accountability.

It is all up to the guns now. The guns have the politicians exactly where they want them to be. The guns can make Nawaz Sharif give some or give it all. The guns can make Imran Khan accept some or lose it all.

Brinkmanship is the “practice of pushing dangerous events to the brink of disaster in order to achieve the most advantageous outcome”. The two most crucial elements in brinkmanship are the ‘limits of safety’ and the ‘measures in place to avoid complete disaster’. Have the guns set the limits of safety? Do the guns have measures in place to avoid complete disaster?

The billion dollar question is: do the guns just want to weaken Nawaz Sharif or actually pull the plug on him?

The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com

Twitter: @saleemfarrukh
 
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Thanks to this so called "Azadi march" alot of people are suffering already.Ask those people who want to buy petrol for their car how they are feeling or what they are going through right now.This is just a another attempt by some yahoos to put our country in turmoil AGAIN.:mad:


Lo gee, the blame of all this also goes to PTI, as usual. Very nice.
 
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Lo gee, the blame of all this also goes to PTI, as usual. Very nice.
What blame man? I know PTI has been snubbed during the elections but the date and time chosen for "Azadi March" is completely unnecessary.

The same people who sit idle when fellow Pakistanis die, the hypocritical Middle and upper middle class should now face the music. For too long the poor of Pakistan have been killed, starved and stripped of their dignity. Justice served.



No one invited you here saffron chaddi.
why do you hold the middle class and upper class responsible? What are they suppose to do?
 
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Its depends on Government plans. They can do anything to create chaos and then political revenge. They have long history for this.
 
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why do you hold the middle class and upper class responsible? What are they suppose to do?

They should stand up for every one not for themselves. Generally we humans are selfish, once we have things we need then we tend to forget even our own hungry neighbours.

One, I am not old. I am 32. Second, I have nothing to do with your political system or the country. I am happy being where I am. Three, I don't care about your politicians. I do care about the people across the world. I write on many other forums and frankly speaking, online communities for nations like Sudan, and Ethiopia have more sense, democracy and nationalism that I've seen compared to the Pakistani community (sadly enough). Check out your ranking on the worst / most corrupted nations, many African countries that the modern world doesn't think highly off, are way above you guys. I am not writing this to insult your country, I am writing this to let people like you know that it is the PEOPLE who decide the fate for their country and make decisions in their nation's best interest to go forward. You guys are too busy being divided in ethnicity, race and groups focused politics and everyone wants their ethnic guy to win. That's very tribal mentality and this kind of crap is what puts Pakistan in such a weird position on the world stage.

I hold similar views to yours. I don't know who do you think I support lol. Anyway I think I was being a bit silly and offensive. I apologise on my childish behaviour.
 
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It's a threat to all family limited and status quo political parties
 
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all IK was / is asking was a review of votes in 4 constituencies. since the govt. didnt agree to his demand, which leads us to the perception that yes, rigging has taken place has led us to this juncture. where is the security risk. nothing has changed since PPP govt was defeated in the polls (sic). hunger, unemployment, power outages, no law and order - in fact anarchy over vast swathes of the country. the loot and plunder by the people in power continues - like sheik rashid says 'PPP was retailer party, PMLN is wholeseller party'.

we survived PPP's 5-years in power, we will survive PMLN's tenure.
 
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In the current scenario, individual frustration is widespread – and individual frustration is turning into collective aggression. Collective aggression can lead to one of three things: anarchy, change of government or a revolution.
Chances are it will be anarchy. And then this option will come in with modified version
In the current scenario, there are powerful political, economic and social drivers that could drive the protestors to violence. In case of extreme violence, the GHQ will be forced into exercising the Kakar Option (whereby Kakar pressurised both Ghulam Ishaq Khan and Nawaz Sharif into resigning).
 
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all IK was / is asking was a review of votes in 4 constituencies. since the govt. didnt agree to his demand, which leads us to the perception that yes, rigging has taken place has led us to this juncture. where is the security risk. nothing has changed since PPP govt was defeated in the polls (sic). hunger, unemployment, power outages, no law and order - in fact anarchy over vast swathes of the country. the loot and plunder by the people in power continues - like sheik rashid says 'PPP was retailer party, PMLN is wholeseller party'.

And through killing innocents, destroying public and government infrastructure through violence, toppling the government......all these things will bring about peace and stability into Pakistan? It'll create a mess, a vacuum without institutions, and the military would once again try to take over. The sanctions will be put in place the minute that happens, the economy will derail and hit you'll hit bankruptcy.
BUT....you can't wait for the current turn to finish up when things are moving in the right direction, the investment is coming in and things will change for the better.

All your desperate old school politician and the military knows that this is their last chance to keep Pakistan AWAY from progress and keep the people into the same shitt*y life that they were used to. If they progress, they'll become civilized and that ends a lot of business for old school politicians and for the military to be in the power. There is no such thing as a "revolution" when your country is running on tribes on a few hundred thousand violent thugs. Revolution comes within nations, this here, is the worse display of tribal and ethnic politics in the modern human history!
 
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