AVIC Presents FC-31 Stealth Fighter model to Pakistan Air Force Chief.

[ACE OF THE AIR]

OK,

The link about the 'stealth' part was posted by someone else---. JH7B is not a stealth aircraft----that was a suggested design option which was never carried out----.

Sir,
That is the very reason I was asking if these can be given some sort of semi stealth features like the ones designed for F-15 and F-18's.

 

[danger007]

Sir,
I remember some time back you said that an aircraft can not be stealth if it is not completely redesigned. This was in regards to JF-17 being modified to Stealth aircraft.

From the JH-7B Stealth Strike Fighter is also in the same category an old design how can this be stealth?

Sir F-15's & F-18's have been given some kind of stealth paint coat and some other features like enclosed weapons delivery pods etc... So it is also possible to do the same for JF-17's, JH-7B, FC-20 etc...



Sir,

The requirement of PN is a lot different hence a multi-engine aircraft is required. PN has been operating Mirage III's but they have a very reliable engine.

Initially when the PN requested for the permission to procure fighter aircraft they had requested J-15's but that was not approved and they were required to get the JF-17's. Now after the increased naval area PN does not know what to do and has increased the demands for more boats.

The visit of Army Chief to Russia where he saw the Mig-35 and showed interest. If some details are indeed sent and some briefing is given by Russia then it might be clearer if these Mig-35's could be bought. Most probably on very favorable terms as the company that manufactures Migs is almost bankrupt.

What kinda very favourable terms??? now a days i am reading this type of terms very commonly in this forum and some wink.. even though mig company get bankrupt. . they will not sale such potent platforms @Discounted rates or @interest free loans etc...

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

What kinda very favourable terms??? now a days i am reading this type of terms very commonly in this forum and some wink.. even though mig company get bankrupt. . they will not sale such potent platforms @Discounted rates or @interest free loans etc...

It the same as India purchased Jaguar F1 racing team and then made it Force India.
India got the entire history and exclusive rights of new developments.

According to your statement if Mig company gets bankrupt it would not sale a potent platform... A bankrupt company is auctioned by the court on as is where basis. Still the company is not bankrupt hence it can be purchased / majority shares can be bought. New management can change any thing in the company.

Chinese offer is different then this as the company would remain the same and in Chinese hands. The product would be offered on cost to cost basis and full tranfer of technology will be done. It is like merger between PAC and AVIC.

In both cases ie Mig and AVIC Pakistan would be owner of the entire product range that can be produced or the one that is already produced.

If you recall the offer by USA for F16 / F18's India was to be given a licencee production line and parts manufacturing and exports but all these would be done on permission and approvals by the US Congress. Hence India did not like this proposal

 

[soundwave1987]

There are still many uncertainties project 31001 faced for sure, it's a avic project not a plaaf project. Again I must state that the assumption of j20 being pla exclusive is only rumour not official statement. If Pakistan decide to join the adventure, that's good. But for ppl who's so keen to see the project fail should beware of their delusions, the failure may leave paf no choice but to seek more costy alternatives like j20, which is backed up by entire nation and equiped with better and maturer engines, better avionics, larger payloads, and more importantly, developed way much faster. Sure it would be some financial loss but not necessaily a bad thing for paf as they get a more potent equipment

 

[danger007]

It the same as India purchased Jaguar F1 racing team and then made it Force India.
India got the entire history and exclusive rights of new developments.

According to your statement if Mig company gets bankrupt it would not sale a potent platform... A bankrupt company is auctioned by the court on as is where basis. Still the company is not bankrupt hence it can be purchased / majority shares can be bought. New management can change any thing in the company.

Chinese offer is different then this as the company would remain the same and in Chinese hands. The product would be offered on cost to cost basis and full tranfer of technology will be done. It is like merger between PAC and AVIC.

In both cases ie Mig and AVIC Pakistan would be owner of the entire product range that can be produced or the one that is already produced.

If you recall the offer by USA for F16 / F18's India was to be given a licencee production line and parts manufacturing and exports but all these would be done on permission and approvals by the US Congress. Hence India did not like this proposal

Today there is positive sign between Russian -pak relationship. . even though they are bankrupt they will not sale their tech just like that.. as well your relationship isn't big to sale their most potent platform. .. haha AVIC Pakistan? ?? owner of mig???you must be whining. .. cars is different from defence tech...

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Today there is positive sign between Russian -pak relationship. . even though they are bankrupt they will not sale their tech just like that.. as well your relationship isn't big to sale their most potent platform. .. haha AVIC Pakistan? ?? owner of mig???you must be whining. .. cars is different from defence tech...

Only time will tell...

 

[danger007]

Only time will tell...

you must be whining about mig corp??? don't you.. silly assumption. . you are not talking about cars bikes ...

 

[New World]

FC-31 is for airforce and what about Navy, Did she take something in 5th gene fighter or jf-17 se kaam chalana pary ga??

and by the way IN is considering f-35 for carrier..

 

[Mughal-Prince]

and by the way IN is considering f-35 for carrier..

Hanooz Dilli Door Ast

 

[Asian.Century]

 

[Tajdaar Ali]

Damn, looks cool. @DESERT FIGHTER .

Love this

First squardon by 2021-22 would be ideal but i think it will take a little more than that.

love this

 

[fatman17]

The Chinese are obviously flogging this aircraft to us as we potentially are the first export customer for this type. If and when PAF evaluates this aircraft they will come up with many modifications to meet PAF requirements. I don't see this type in PAF livery before 2025. The PLAAF is concentrating on the J20 to fulfill it's requirements.

 

[I S I]

By the impression i got reading about J-31 on wiki is that its not much better than an F-16.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

By the impression i got reading about J-31 on wiki is that its not much better than an F-16.

let it develop further then you are going to see how capable is it ...J-10 is equivalent to F-16's and Rafale presently.

 

[I S I]

let it develop further then you are going to see how capable is it ...J-10 is equivalent to F-16's and Rafale presently.

I'm sure it would take atleast 8-10 years before its ready.