What's new

Average GDP growth rate in 60 years

mr42O

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Aug 15, 2009
Messages
6,178
Reaction score
4
Country
Pakistan
Location
Norway
Mian saab said in his era GDP was 7% .... Check ur self whats the truth

GDP1.jpg
 
Hmm only if Pakistan sticks with democracy growth rate will climb back to 7% and economy is stabilize.
 
Graph tells that Marshal Law is better for Pakistan's economy :pop:

I know. It must be obvious to Imran Khan he's going to lose hands down, hence he's looking forward to military toppling Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif again.
 
Mian saab said in his era GDP was 7% .... Check ur self whats the truth

GDP1.jpg

This graph shows the inherent problem with Pakistani politics. Military leaderships are bound to provide higher short term growth since they bring about stability. Stability is at a premium in a third world nation and is as such hard to come by. Due to the incredible dominance of the Pakistani military over all parts of 'Pakistan', a leader who has the backing of the military has more clout than any other and the job security to boot. Taking that further, if the leader is himself the head of the all powerful military, he rules with all encompassing control. It is interesting to note the longest uninterrupted reigns in Pakistani history have come by Generals. Any government, even one from the First World would be hard pressed to bring about meaningful change if it has no time and no guarantee of maintaining it's power.

Zardari, Benazir before him, and Nawaz have been comical failures as leaders. So they richly deserve the ire of the public. The problem is in the free pass given to military generals, because their reigns weren't quite as mediocre. A lesser evil that isn't so much lesser once the massive advantages they have had while in office are taken into account. American aid during times of war have flowed freely during the governments of multiple Generals; and the stability they invariably brought thanks to their paradoxical control over the entity (Army) that controlled their Presidential office, brought foreign investment from corporations looking for predictable and safe profits.

The beauty of democracy isn't in it's American-ness as it's critics like to claim. But that it is a form of political trial and error. While pathetic and corrupt, Zardari and Nawaz present the public with examples of who not to elect. But their mediocrity is lost when every decade a General comes in and radically changes the very fabric of Pakistan. An uninterrupted democracy has the ability to allow the people to slowly and systematically whittle away all that is wrong with Pakistani politics; replace the Zardari's and Nawaz's with people they truly believe in. Unfortunately, while Generals have often cut the process of democracy short, feudalism is the ultimate deathblow to a process that functions off of the viewpoint of the individual person. Feudalism will doom all forms of Pakistani governments to failure. Unfortunately for democracy, it has to face a secondary and wholly unnecessary enemy in the nation's military.
 
living in ur dream world when 90% of media is saying PTI is getting bigger and bigger.....

I know. It must be obvious to Imran Khan he's going to lose hands down, hence he's looking forward to military toppling Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif again.
 
PPP eats the economy, PML-N gets to eat later and so on.

They are spending so much of their personal dollars in elections so there must be some return when elected.
 
Pakistani journalism.

Good suggestion, but our journalists are mostly paid by those with the real power and money, and are at risk of being kicked out at their whims. Remember what happened to Azhar Lodhi of PTV back in Gen Zia's days? The modern equivalent of that is Saleem Shehzad, probably.
 
Mian saab said in his era GDP was 7% .... Check ur self whats the truth

Actually he added Inflation rate in GDP growth and told us in total 7% growth :D

BTW that chart shows that all 3 dictators reign was best. In there reign Pakistan GDP growth was between 6-7% more then so called democratic leaders. In General Zia ul Haq reign Pakistan GDP only once grew in double digits at 10.22%. So what actually we got from these so called democratic leaders, I just don't understand that.
 
This graph shows the inherent problem with Pakistani politics. Military leaderships are bound to provide higher short term growth since they bring about stability. Stability is at a premium in a third world nation and is as such hard to come by. Due to the incredible dominance of the Pakistani military over all parts of 'Pakistan', a leader who has the backing of the military has more clout than any other and the job security to boot. Taking that further, if the leader is himself the head of the all powerful military, he rules with all encompassing control. It is interesting to note the longest uninterrupted reigns in Pakistani history have come by Generals. Any government, even one from the First World would be hard pressed to bring about meaningful change if it has no time and no guarantee of maintaining it's power.

Zardari, Benazir before him, and Nawaz have been comical failures as leaders. So they richly deserve the ire of the public. The problem is in the free pass given to military generals, because their reigns weren't quite as mediocre. A lesser evil that isn't so much lesser once the massive advantages they have had while in office are taken into account. American aid during times of war have flowed freely during the governments of multiple Generals; and the stability they invariably brought thanks to their paradoxical control over the entity (Army) that controlled their Presidential office, brought foreign investment from corporations looking for predictable and safe profits.

The beauty of democracy isn't in it's American-ness as it's critics like to claim. But that it is a form of political trial and error. While pathetic and corrupt, Zardari and Nawaz present the public with examples of who not to elect. But their mediocrity is lost when every decade a General comes in and radically changes the very fabric of Pakistan. An uninterrupted democracy has the ability to allow the people to slowly and systematically whittle away all that is wrong with Pakistani politics; replace the Zardari's and Nawaz's with people they truly believe in. Unfortunately, while Generals have often cut the process of democracy short, feudalism is the ultimate deathblow to a process that functions off of the viewpoint of the individual person. Feudalism will doom all forms of Pakistani governments to failure. Unfortunately for democracy, it has to face a secondary and wholly unnecessary enemy in the nation's military.
Thanks for a great lecture on democracy ?
now tell that damocrazy to bring, gas , power, feul, clean water to every pakistani, if not just get lost, & live in mayfair mansions or Surrey places of london?
 
Problem is if we know who tries to destabilize govt when civilian are in power, we all know it but we still fart from our mouth.
 
The major problem for Pakistani economy is corruption, in case Marshall there is smaller cabinate, less people to rule. Also mainly under military dictatorship there is unity in federation because singularity of rule and no democrasy.

Other factors also play the role are like controlled economy stats get released by government. Military rules show better results since there is no musical chair, noora kushti government come into play, that is the reason before military go, economy stats generally go down. It happened in ayub khan and Musharaf ending terms. But Zia rule didnt see much criples economy wise since he was never planning to leave the chair.

That is the reason military rule shows better results as compare to Democrasy atleast for Pakistan.

Pakistan seriously should look for alernative to democrasy. may be security country. This shitty democrasy also divides country men into many groups.

PS: musharaf avg was around 5%-6%, only two years 2003-2004 it touched to 6.5%, but mainly it was less then 6%.
 
Look at what happened after Marshall law, as it's effect too. Successful military leaderships are always followed off by pitiful civilians who have to start the system from 0 again. Which in turn leaves us right open for another dictator, and then his lot of politicians that follow him.

A simple fact for all to consider, this formula has not worked so far, so what makes you think abandoning democracy, calling for a dictatorship will work this time?
 

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom