Avalanche traps about 150 Pakistani soldiers

[VelocuR]

It is time to close this thread, Avalanche case is over now.

Too late, too slow, lack progress, weak response, and no glasses surprisingly.

 

[Safriz]

It is time to close this thread, Avalanche case is over now.

Too late, too slow, lack progress, weak response, and no glasses surprisingly.

For your reference it took them 69 days to rescue Chilean miners.

 

[VCheng]

For your reference it took them 69 days to rescue Chilean miners.

Yes, but for your reference, they were able to get a few things to the miners during that time that most humans need. You know, things like air, water, food, warmth etc.

 

[VelocuR]

For your reference it took them 69 days to rescue Chilean miners.

I know, safriz. Both are different ways, our soliders was under the heavy snow feeling shivering and shaking, we will be thirteen days passing so Chilean miners was stuck behind the stones hardly breathing, even though they have video live communication and phone tracking, does we have similarly?

 

[Safriz]

Yes, but for your reference, they were able to get a few things to the miners during that time that most humans need. You know, things like air, water, food, warmth etc.

Thats because they weren't swept away by such a massive force and their exact coordinates were known all along....
Nobody knows which part of the glacier holds the soldiers...

 

[VCheng]

Thats because they weren't swept away by such a massive force and their exact coordinates were known all along....
Nobody knows which part of the glacier holds the soldiers...

Yes.

And that is also why quoting the Chilean rescue as a reference point is not applicable in this case.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

This looks like a landslide rather than an avalanche. The amount of earth that needs to be shifted looks imeasurable.

I'm guessing the first located body is going give the best indication on how long this task is going to take.

Aside from that, the displacement of earth is also going to be a huge factor.

Just wish there were more pics/vids of the incident.

There always seems to be resticted media coverage which is something ive grown to detest of the army and government especially evident in places where drone strikes occur.

WHY?

This is a national disaster, let the media in ffs! I don't wana see ISPR-taken shots.

do you have any idea how inaccesbible this area is? It isnt like Geo newsvan and its pesky cameramen can just walk into the place. They have to be airlifted with their equipment.

the priority was to get equipment needed there first......priority is not bringing news networks there to spread half-truths and speculation and be a source of distraction

i dont know what drones or any of that had to do with it here......


if youre desperate or dont trust what ISPR says -- then go there yourself and see (good luck)

 

[Safriz]

Yes.

And that is also why quoting the Chilean rescue as a reference point is not applicable in this case.

it is relevant....because this operation is more complicate than that and we shouldn't complain about the time frame.
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For those who want to understand and can read..here is a link explaining the thing that hit Gayari camp..and no it wasn't tiny..It was off the scale,and clearing it will take time....So lets be patient.

http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2011/12/28/understanding-deadly-ice-avalanches

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Re: Avalanche traps about 150 Pakistani soldiers

The army chief today to the media at skardu that we will keep up the effort even if it takes two months or a year. We will dig up the whole mountain if we have toandwill get those soldiers back

That IMO was a good statement by the chief.



I agree we will dig out the mountain if we have to ....we can do it we are Pakistan Army

 

[PakFalcon]

No PR92/2012-ISPR
Dated: April 20, 2012

Rawalpindi - April 20, 2012: Update Avalanche Clearance at Gayari Sector Siachen


The work at the site is being carried out round the clock.
Rise in temperature has not only increased the chances of slides being triggered onto work site but has also made plant work difficult due to soft melting snow. Work is being hampered by large boulders. Site is being expanded to bypass these boulders and continue excavation work.
Norwegian team conducted steam test followed by aerial shoots of the avalanche site for map work to be utilized by Engineers during excavation of the site. Team has completed its work and there is no major deviation from existing findings.
A total of 503 personnel including 425 military, 78 civilians alongwith 25 Heavy Machines are employed on search and rescue effort.
Water level in the blocked channel is rising quickly due to rise in temperature and resultant melting of snow. Excavator is working to widen existing seepage from channel. However, no major breakthrough has been achieved so far. WAPDA team has completed hydrological survey of the blocked water channel and has recommended immediate excavation of the channel to route the water.
Ground penetrating Radars and Geological Technical experts are assisting rescue efforts.

Rescue Work by Pak Army at Gayari Sector Siachen. (20-04-2012) – Photo ISPR​

 

[blain2]

Welcome to Pakistan! Contrary to what most people think, the Army is not a walk in the park and neither do we have an infinite budget as many of our pseudo-left radicals suggest. Most of the time, safety equipment takes the largest 'Maybe Next Time'. I have seen men at artillery positions with their ears bleeding after prolonged shelling campaigns because they have no ear protection.
Life of a soldier, it's damn tough!

We used to make do with cotton balls but only if there were some around. In reality it did not matter with or without cotton. There is no escaping the concussion from the artillery fire unless you have high quality ear protection. As you have said, most arty folks who have been around gun positions for tad bit too long tend to suffer from some sort of hearing impairment.

Xeric can add more.

 

[Jango]

Xeric can add more.

Xeric is artillery???

 

[Safriz]

 

[Safriz]

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

No breakthrough in Siachen rescue efforts: ISPR

RAWALPINDI: The rescue operation at the Gayari camp of the Pakistan Army is being carried out round the clock since an avalanche hit the base, the ISPR said on Friday. Rise in temperature has not only increased the chances of more avalanches at the work site but has also made rescue work difficult due to the soft melting snow. Work is being hampered by large boulders and the site is being expanded to bypass these boulders and continue excavation work. Norwegian team conducted steam test followed by aerial shoots of the avalanche site for map work to be utilised by engineers during excavation of the site. The team has completed its work and there is no major deviation from existing findings.

A total of 503 personnel along with 25 heavy machines are employed for search and rescue effort, ISPR said.

“Water level in the blocked channel is rising quickly due to rise in temperature and resultant melting of snow. Excavator is working to widen existing seepage from channel.”

However, no major breakthrough has been achieved so far. A WAPDA team has completed hydrological survey of the blocked water channel and has recommended immediate excavation of the channel to route the water.

Ground penetrating radars and geological technical experts are assisting rescue efforts, ISPR said. inp

 

[Ark-Angel]

This is a national disaster, let the media in ffs! I don't wana see ISPR-taken shots.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...wo-special-programs-right-gayari-siachen.html