Avalanche traps about 150 Pakistani soldiers

[Areesh]

All the jawans belonged to the same unit. 6 NLI.

 

[indiatester]

gps doesnt work when you ae burried under a few thousand toms of ice.

Avalanche floatation devices?
We want our soldiers to take bullets and shitty postings for us, but we are such cheapos to not even afford decent protection devices?
I hope most survive.

 

[F.O.X]

Usually a Distress Beacon is given to soldier when deployed on the front , which helps to locate the soldiers if something like this happens . however in this case the Avalanche hit the Rear HQ while most of the soldiers were sleeping . which made the matters worse. at day time some measures may have been taken but the timing of Avalanche was very bad.

Currently only bodies are found , but lets keep the fingers crossed & Pray for the safety of the soldiers Trapped there .

 

[Last Hope]

Usually a Distress Beacon is given to soldier when deployed on the front , which helps to locate the soldiers if something like this happens . however in this case the Avalanche hit the Rear HQ while most of the soldiers were sleeping . which made the matters worse. at day time some measures may have been taken but the timing of Avalanche was very bad.

Currently only bodies are found , but lets keep the fingers crossed & Pray for the safety of the soldiers Trapped there .

Fox.

How are the buildings over there, are they strong enough to offer protection to the trapped and would stay still or tear away due to the storms?
What's your point of view and knowledge?

 

[Jango]

It was around 6 in the morning according to ISPR, so the men were caught unaware.

And the DG ISPR said that this was very unusual, as avalanches don't happen at this time of the year. And this was not avalanche season.

Fox.

How are the buildings over there, are they strong enough to offer protection to the trapped and would stay still or tear away due to the storms?
What's your point of view and knowledge?

Avalanche, of the kind that has happened, tears everything in it's path, no building can stand in it's path.

But we can pray, and miracles do happen.

 

[regular]

Fox.

How are the buildings over there, are they strong enough to offer protection to the trapped and would stay still or tear away due to the storms?
What's your point of view and knowledge?

Sir! I guess the buildings can't hold against thousands of tons of snow striking them, its almost impossible to survive....But still Allah SBWT can do miracles if he wanna save somebody.....
I wish and hope from Allah SBWT that our friend Xeric trapped there will be fine and will survive through this incident.......Insha-Allah

 

[Jango]

Names of persons Buried under snow slide in Gayari sector near Skardu.



Officers

1. PA-32596 Lt Col Tanvir Ul Hassan


2. PA-39548 Maj Zaka Ul Haq


3. PA-105358 Capt Haleem Ullah( AMC)


Junior Commission Officers

4. N/Sub Khurshid


5. N/Sub Didar


6. N/Sub Malik


7. N/Sub Iftikhar


Havildar

8. Hav Rehber


9. Hav Haji Shafayat


10. Hav Zakir


11. Hav Gulfraz


12. Hav Shah Nawaz


13. Hav Musadiq


14. Hav Rustam


15. Hav Shad


16. Hav Ghulam Muhammad


17. Hav Sher Nayab


18. Hav Ishaq


19. Hav Tanvir


Lance Havildar / NaiK


20. L/Hav Mustafa


21. L/Hav Ghulam Qadir


22. Nk Ashraf


23. Nk Sartaj


24. Nk Mudasar


25. Nk Jabbar


Lance Naik / Sepoy


26. Lnk Irshad


27. Lnk Sami Ullah


28. Lnk Sharafat


29. Lnk Mustafa


30. Lnk Himayat


31. Lnk Altaf


32. Lnk Mir Hussain


33. Lnk Irfan


34. Sep Ali Zar


35. Sep Saleem


36. Sep Malik Riaz


37. Sep Jamil


38. Sep Akhtar


39. Sep Nadir Wali


40. Sep Israr


41. Sep Sajid


42. Sep Naseer


43. Sep Dildar


44. Sep Zaman


45. Sep Irfan Khalil


46. Sep Waseem


47. Sep Ehsan


48. Sep Ashraf


49. Sep Riaz


50. Sep Shoaib


51. Sep Iqbal


52. Sep Mumtaz


53. Sep Haider


54. Sep Mehtab


55. Zulqarnain


56. Sep Ghulab Shah


57. Sep Rehmat Wali


58. Sep Nadeem


59. Sep Nafs Ali


60. Sep Nadeem Hashmi


61. Sep Qurban


62. Sep Muhammad Khan


63. Sep Akbar


64. Sep Ali Muhammad


65. Sep Muhammad Ali


66. Sep Amin


67. Sep Fiaz


68. Sep Shakeel


69. Sep Siraj


70. Sep Fazal Abbas


71. Sep Javed


72. Sep Javed


73. Sep Sakhi Zaman


74. Sep Sajjad Kazmi


75. Sep Fida Hussain


76. Sep Naeem


77. Sep Shamim


78. Sep Zakir


79. Sep Nisar Hussain


80. Sep Aurangzeb


81. Sep Arshad


82. Sep Sultan


83. Sep Muhammad Hussain


84. Sep Nasir


85. Sep Ilyas


86. Sep Mukhtiar


87. Sep Fida Hussain


88. Sep Zaheer


89. Sep Naseer


90. Sep Aftab


91. Sep Adil


92. Sep Muzamil


93. Sep Sarfraz


94. Sep Shameer


95. Sep Soba Khan


96. Sep Abid


97. Sep Ishaq


98. Sep Aksar Zaman


99. Sep Najeeb Ullah


100. Sep Siraj Ud Din


101. Sep Jaffar


102. Sep Ansar


103. Sep Ishaq


104. Sep Ghulam Rasool


105. Sep Muhammad Hussain


106. Sep Jumma khan


107. Sep Muhammad Ali


108. Sep Zakir Kawardo


109. Sep Ghulam Mehdi


110. Sep Ghazi Shah


111. Sep Sana Ullah


112. Sep Imtiaz


113. Sep Hameed Ullah


114. Sep Sadiq Gultri


115. Sep Gul Daz ( FS Sec)


Clerks


116. Nk / Clk Ghulam Nabi


117. Nk/ Clk Ghulam Ali


Cooks


118. Sep/Ck Muhammad Ali


119. Sep/Ck Karim


120. Sep/Ck Ghulam Mehdi


Sweepers

121. Moon Gul


122. Asif


123. Naveed


124. Ali


Civilian (paid out of defence establishment)

125. Jalil (Waiter)


126. Hameed ( Waiter
127. Nasrullah (Barber
128. Muhammad Ameer (Barber
129. Waheed ( Canteen)
130. Azeem (Canteen)
131. Sarfraz (Dhobi
132. Wali (Dhobi
133. Noor Shah ali (Dhobi)
134. Sabir (Tailor)
135. Ghulam Rasool (NCB) - Uncfm/Suspected

:: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN

A full fledged living setup, Dhobis, waiters, sweepers, NCB, Barber.

May Allah have mercy.

 

[Last Hope]

Avalanche, of the kind that has happened, tears everything in it's path, no building can stand in it's path.

But we can pray, and miracles do happen.

Sir! I guess the buildings can't hold against thousands of tons of snow striking them, its almost impossible to survive....But still Allah SBWT can do miracles if he wanna save somebody.....
I wish and hope from Allah SBWT that our friend Xeric trapped there will be fine and will survive through this incident.......Insha-Allah

I do believe in miracles too.

With impact further away, shorter and wider buildings with deep roots, they can possibly survive.
But if the buildings/camps got washed away, this would make the minimal chances of survival even more scarce.

 

[F.O.X]

Fox.

How are the buildings over there, are they strong enough to offer protection to the trapped and would stay still or tear away due to the storms?
What's your point of view and knowledge?

The buildings there are designed to Withstand cold & Avalanches to some extent, they are usually made of single bricks & sometime double bricks & windows are very few in number on the rear side of mountain , however Every soldier stationed at siachin goes through a special course of Survival Tactics which helps them survive extraordinary situations.

However in this case the size of Avalanche was too big an avalanche of 1 square km destroys/Buries everything in its way , We cannot get the heavy machinery up to dig out the snow and manually it takes ages ,

A Normal person in this case have around 3 hours of air & a Trained solder around 5-6 (Average) , if you are rescued in that time span then you have chances of surviving the aftermath . the more time it take the slim chances of survival there are .

It has been up until now 18 hrs since the avalanche hit .

 

[alibaz]

Why Pakistan Army in the trap didn't carry GPS signal communication??

I think they carry some sort of beacon While moving out but here the case was different. As per tv reports snow is about 80 foot thick which further multiplies the difficulty level.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Names of persons Buried under snow slide in Gayari sector near Skardu.



Officers

1. PA-32596 Lt Col Tanvir Ul Hassan


2. PA-39548 Maj Zaka Ul Haq


3. PA-105358 Capt Haleem Ullah( AMC)


Junior Commission Officers

4. N/Sub Khurshid


5. N/Sub Didar


6. N/Sub Malik


7. N/Sub Iftikhar


Havildar

8. Hav Rehber


9. Hav Haji Shafayat


10. Hav Zakir


11. Hav Gulfraz


12. Hav Shah Nawaz


13. Hav Musadiq


14. Hav Rustam


15. Hav Shad


16. Hav Ghulam Muhammad


17. Hav Sher Nayab


18. Hav Ishaq


19. Hav Tanvir


Lance Havildar / NaiK


20. L/Hav Mustafa


21. L/Hav Ghulam Qadir


22. Nk Ashraf


23. Nk Sartaj


24. Nk Mudasar


25. Nk Jabbar


Lance Naik / Sepoy


26. Lnk Irshad


27. Lnk Sami Ullah


28. Lnk Sharafat


29. Lnk Mustafa


30. Lnk Himayat


31. Lnk Altaf


32. Lnk Mir Hussain


33. Lnk Irfan


34. Sep Ali Zar


35. Sep Saleem


36. Sep Malik Riaz


37. Sep Jamil


38. Sep Akhtar


39. Sep Nadir Wali


40. Sep Israr


41. Sep Sajid


42. Sep Naseer


43. Sep Dildar


44. Sep Zaman


45. Sep Irfan Khalil


46. Sep Waseem


47. Sep Ehsan


48. Sep Ashraf


49. Sep Riaz


50. Sep Shoaib


51. Sep Iqbal


52. Sep Mumtaz


53. Sep Haider


54. Sep Mehtab


55. Zulqarnain


56. Sep Ghulab Shah


57. Sep Rehmat Wali


58. Sep Nadeem


59. Sep Nafs Ali


60. Sep Nadeem Hashmi


61. Sep Qurban


62. Sep Muhammad Khan


63. Sep Akbar


64. Sep Ali Muhammad


65. Sep Muhammad Ali


66. Sep Amin


67. Sep Fiaz


68. Sep Shakeel


69. Sep Siraj


70. Sep Fazal Abbas


71. Sep Javed


72. Sep Javed


73. Sep Sakhi Zaman


74. Sep Sajjad Kazmi


75. Sep Fida Hussain


76. Sep Naeem


77. Sep Shamim


78. Sep Zakir


79. Sep Nisar Hussain


80. Sep Aurangzeb


81. Sep Arshad


82. Sep Sultan


83. Sep Muhammad Hussain


84. Sep Nasir


85. Sep Ilyas


86. Sep Mukhtiar


87. Sep Fida Hussain


88. Sep Zaheer


89. Sep Naseer


90. Sep Aftab


91. Sep Adil


92. Sep Muzamil


93. Sep Sarfraz


94. Sep Shameer


95. Sep Soba Khan


96. Sep Abid


97. Sep Ishaq


98. Sep Aksar Zaman


99. Sep Najeeb Ullah


100. Sep Siraj Ud Din


101. Sep Jaffar


102. Sep Ansar


103. Sep Ishaq


104. Sep Ghulam Rasool


105. Sep Muhammad Hussain


106. Sep Jumma khan


107. Sep Muhammad Ali


108. Sep Zakir Kawardo


109. Sep Ghulam Mehdi


110. Sep Ghazi Shah


111. Sep Sana Ullah


112. Sep Imtiaz


113. Sep Hameed Ullah


114. Sep Sadiq Gultri


115. Sep Gul Daz ( FS Sec)


Clerks


116. Nk / Clk Ghulam Nabi


117. Nk/ Clk Ghulam Ali


Cooks


118. Sep/Ck Muhammad Ali


119. Sep/Ck Karim


120. Sep/Ck Ghulam Mehdi


Sweepers

121. Moon Gul


122. Asif


123. Naveed


124. Ali


Civilian (paid out of defence establishment)

125. Jalil (Waiter)


126. Hameed ( Waiter
127. Nasrullah (Barber
128. Muhammad Ameer (Barber
129. Waheed ( Canteen)
130. Azeem (Canteen)
131. Sarfraz (Dhobi
132. Wali (Dhobi
133. Noor Shah ali (Dhobi)
134. Sabir (Tailor)
135. Ghulam Rasool (NCB) - Uncfm/Suspected

:: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN

A full fledged living setup, Dhobis, waiters, sweepers, NCB, Barber.

May Allah have mercy.

It was a huge loss for our country today.Our motherland lost her brave sons.Those who served their duties to defend their country and got martyred will always remain alive in our hearts and memories.RIP the brave!

 

[Last Hope]

The buildings there are designed to Withstand cold & Avalanches to some extent, they are usually made of single bricks & sometime double bricks & windows are very few in number on the rear side of mountain

That could have given some hope initially.

However in this case the size of Avalanche was too big an avalanche of 1 square km destroys/Buries everything in its way , We cannot get the heavy machinery up to dig out the snow and manually it takes ages ,

The machinery was sent from Rawalpinid/Taxila but is still halted due to the conditions of the avalanche as well as the current weather. Only light helicopters like Alloutte are possible right now, the Mi-17's thrust could worsen the conditions.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله, انا لله وانا اليه راجعون


Warm condolences to the families of the heroic martyrs and to the brotherly people of Pakistan.
May Allah accept them as martyrs...

Verily to Allah, belongs what He took and to Him belongs what He gave, and everything with Him has an appointed time…and then he rordered for her to be patient and hope for Allah’s reward.

 

[jayron]

Terrible! This death trap called Siachin should be demilitarized asap!

 

[acetophenol]

does pakistan has sufficient amount of high altitude choppers?what models do they operate?
light tracked snow movers can be handy in this situation.