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Auto sector: China's success but India's challenges

Published on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 16:05 | Source : Moneycontrol.com

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Some of the best minds of the auto industry got together to discuss if China has tasted sweet fruit of success while India is only struggling in the sector.

In the special discussion on behalf of Audi and CNBC-TV18, Marco Hecker, Partner and Director Automotive and Industrial Equipment at Accenture, Sumit Bali,CEO of Kotak Mahindra Prime and Michael Perschke, Head of Audi India were part of the panel.

Here is an edited transcript of the interview. Also watch the accompanying videos.

Q: The title of my discussion suggests that China has had success and India has had only challenges. What are India's successes?

Hecker: I think there are a lot of India's successes and the key part is if you look at India and China, it's somewhat an unfair comparison. If you look at their different markets there is a lot of potential on either side.

If you look at number of cars per 1,000 inhabitants, India has much more headroom than China has. Obviously there are some challenges but the key strength of India is not only the huge demand which we have in the market as such, but also the entire legal system that's something that China cannot give us. I think it's really important that we as Indians need to make sure that we cannot out-Chinese the Chinese but I think it's really important that we believe in our own strength and work on our own destiny.

Q: I just want a little perspective from you. How many cars did you sell last year in China and how many did you sell in India?

Perschke: Well, in China last year we sold more than 300,000 cars and it's the first time in our history that we sold more cars in China than in Germany. So, we always say China is our second home market, basically it's now our first home market and in comparison India we sold 5,511 cars.

Taking that into perspective it is pretty much what we sold in China in 1996-1997, so from that point of view probably you could calculate we are probably 13-14 years behind China, but that's of course not that simple.

But we see that China is a big car market. Chinese started buying cars, government official cars where we started with Audi 100 a long time ago, while India is predominantly a small car market. There is a more demographic evolvement of the market and I think that makes some significant differences between the two markets just for instance the luxury play out.

Q: How is the customer any different in the two countries?

Bali: There is a lot of difference between a Chinese customer and the Indian customer. The finance penetration that is the number of cars sold on financing is far higher in India.

It's almost four to five times the Chinese number. About 70% of cars in India are sold on finance whereas the similar number for China is about 12-15%.

Q: Then is how is the Chinese consumer buying a car? Are they not taking bank loans to buy cars?

Bali: They are buying with outright cash. It is largest market for buying vehicles on down payment. So India is certainly following a different trajectory here. I think the reasons are by and large the younger generation is far more open to taking loans.

There is a good legal infrastructure. There is adherence to contract laws. The credit bureaus are doing a wonderful job, so that makes the finance penetration even better. I am quite hopeful that seeing the trends of younger generation the 70% will only head higher in future.

Q: By all definitions of poverty and economic wealth, India continues to remain a poor country and a middle class country. Is the Indian consumer ready to buy luxury vehicles to flaunt his or her wealth so to speak? Do you see a cultural difference between a Chinese customer and an Indian customer?

Hecker: Luckily so, because if you look at the overall global automotive market India and China in particular when it comes to the luxury segment are the most crucial prime drivers of growth and in India as well as in China it's a status symbol to drive a car.

It's basically I have arrived, I have achieved. So it's a good thing to show off. I think there are many nicer ways of showing off in a really beautiful car. Also looking at the amount of time that you spend in the car, it's not only about showing off it's also about enjoying the luxury around you. If you spend a lot of time it makes a true difference.

Q: 2011 has been a year of interest rate hikes. How sensitive is the Indian consumer to these interest rate hikes? The hikes in interest rates are not dramatic shifts in EMI, they are marginal shifts, but in terms of sentiment they represent dramatic shifts in sentiment. How sensitive is the Indian consumer to these interest rates problems?

Bali: I would say there is a high correlation between interest rate and automotive sales, inverse correlation, but logically if you were to see I don't think it holds true. It's just that when the interest rates are higher, that period of high inflation, high fuel prices, generally poor sentiment, so people are not so confident about future.

Q: So, there interest rate hike is like a red flag to the consumer saying maybe everything is not going to be as good as you think it is?

Bali: Absolutely, but in terms of affordability given the kind of wage inflation we have had, I think one can easily afford the interest rate hike. In fact we did another study and given the discounts which were non-existent in 2010 and you had lower interest rates with the discounts of 2011. While the higher interest rates, commercially one was better off buying a car in 2011, but it's just that the sentiment wasn't too great hence you had this near zero growth in the automotive industry.
 
And Americans are overtly concerned about the Chinese. I always tell them - They are too stuck on comparing themselves to countries that have less than 1/3 of their GDP. Your close to 10 topics just today proves it.
 
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And Americans are overtly concerned about the Chinese. I always tell them - They are too stuck on comparing themselves to countries that have less than 1/3 of their GDP. Your close to 10 topics just today proves it.

can you count?
 
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can you count?

It was a statement of opinion where the emphasis was not on the exact number today, but your ridiculous obsession. And no I cant count the pages of similar topics in your posting profile? Keep at it though, we know you guys are bullies but can't take us on.
 
the lead US over China is smaller than the lead China over India,but China's growth rate is higher than India and US growth rate is only a fraction of China's.that mean for India's catching up dream with China,that is still a far away dream and China's overtaking US is only a matter of years,2016 is the time set by the world bank.
 
It was a statement of opinion where the emphasis was not on the exact number today, but your ridiculous obsession. And no I cant count the pages of similar topics in your posting profile?

LOL, everyone knows that you are an Indian. :lol:

And you are getting butthurt due to some numbers and facts that are being quoted in the article.

But like your typical Indian, you cannot argue against anything using numbers or facts.
 
LOL, everyone knows that you are an Indian. :lol:

And you are getting butthurt due to some "actual numbers" that are being quoted in the article.

Who is everyone you and your commarades Crystal ball? Is this what they teach you in the Chinese school of assimilation, when challenged distract with absurdity ? We know they make you dance in the rain for your CCP masters at a young age.

.【大纪元2012年01月10日讯】温州市石坦巷小学日前举行庆元旦活动,一群二、三年级的孩子们冒雨起舞,为台上穿着雨衣、有人撑伞的领导表演节目,与看台背后“为生命护航”的背影相衬,网友批评“太讽刺”。


1月9日下午,一则内容为“孩子们冒雨起舞,为台上穿着雨衣撑着伞的领导老师表演。”的微博在网络传开,引发广泛批评。
微博指出,2011年12月29日,温州市鹿城区石坦巷小学举行“迎元旦•绿色安全行”主题活动。在活动现场,一群小学生穿着薄衫、冒雨表演舞蹈,身上没有任何遮雨工具,数名领导与老师坐在主席台上观看表演,后面有人撑伞挡雨。主席台背景显示活动主题为“七彩童心为生命护航”,
石坦巷小学官网介绍说,出席这次活动的领导有温州市鹿城区教育局党委书记、局长林宣富,鹿城区政府教育顾问林可夫,市教育局学生处处长李珍阳,鹿城区教育局党委副书记成小华等一众领导。据《南方都市报》查询发现,当天温州气象台发布了沿海大风警报和天气预报,天有小雨,白天最高温度仅 12至14℃。
这则配有现场图片的微博引起网络一片质疑声,网友直批“这也太讽刺了吧!”有网友指这一幕让人想起“克拉玛依大火”的“让领导先走”。
该校教导处徐老师则称,当天参加活动的七八百个孩子都有雨衣,传上网的图片显示的是活动启动时的开场舞蹈,时间只有三四分钟。“当时雨小了,穿雨衣也没法跳舞”。徐说,跳舞的是二、三年级的学生,整个活动只有这段时间没穿雨衣。至于给领导打伞,“准备的雨衣都是给小孩的,大人没办法穿,也不能淋雨啊。”
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china is a bigger consumer of european and american brands than India. I think it is the status symbol of the brands in China. My Chinese friend would buy nothing less than an iphone and recently, he bought a macbook even though he had a pretty new dell laptop on which I loaded Ubuntu and am using it now:azn:. But on the other hand, I am still using a 3 year old hp dv4 and I have a lot more in my bank account than what the guy does.

No matter what happens, an Indian consumer always goes by the utility of the vehicle. Which is why Tata and Mahindra are still some of the biggest names in the Indian car industry and will continue to be. My father bought an i10 for a little less than 4.5 lakhs (not even the topmost variant) even after having a budget of 6-7 lakhs because it satisfied our needs. regarding loans. Yes, almost everybody in India take loans. For building houses, for cars and so on. It just reflects the security in monetary dealings I guess
 
the lead US over China is smaller than the lead China over India,but China's growth rate is higher than India and US growth rate is only a fraction of China's.that mean for India's catching up dream with China,that is still a far away dream and China's overtaking US is only a matter of years,2016 is the time set by the world bank.

China has a history of beating western expectations.
 
Who is everyone you and your commarades Crystal ball? Is this what they teach you in the Chinese school of assimilation, when challenged distract with absurdity ? We know they make you dance in the rain for your CCP masters at a young age.

I live in Hong Kong, not the mainland. :lol: So where is the CPC involved?

What an Indian.
 
Who is everyone you and your commarades Crystal ball? Is this what they teach you in the Chinese school of assimilation, when challenged distract with absurdity ? We know they make you dance in the rain for your CCP masters at a young age.

I suggest you start speaking your native language because your English really sucks... "challenged distract with absurdity"? This phrase is grammatically broken and makes no sense. Also, "at a young age"... seriously? It should be "at young age" without the article. You are sad man.
 
He can't divide. US GDP is about 15 trillion, and China is about 7 trillion. I don't know where "less than 1/3" comes from. For an Indian he really sucks at math.

Learn to comprehend what was posted before making ignorant statements.

"They are too stuck on comparing themselves to countries that have less than 1/3 of their GDP"
i.e. comparing yourselves to India, which is around 1/3rd of your GDP more or less.
 

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