Australia to Grant Five Hercules C-130 Aircraft to Indonesia

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Australia to Grant Five Hercules C-130 Aircraft to Indonesia


Among a broad range of topics to be addressed by Indonesian and Australian leaders in Darwin this week, the two nations will discuss the Australian government’s plan to grant military aircraft and cooperation on disaster mitigation and transnational crime.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said he would discuss the grant for Hercules C-130 military transport planes at a meeting to be held on Monday afternoon.

“According to the plan, we will get five C-130s from Australia as a grant,” Yudhoyono said at Halim Perdanakusuma Airport on Monday before departing for Darwin on a two-day trip. “But for sure, the Indonesian government may have to pay some money. So, actually, they’re half grant, half purchase.”

The aircraft procurement is related to the Indonesian government’s decision to ground all military Fokker 27 aircraft following a recent accident that claimed the lives of the airplane’s crew and civilians on the ground near Halim Perdanakusuma Airport.

“We need more [air] transportation. Thank God that the [government] program of N295 [airplanes procurement] has been underway and will be used to replace the Fokker 27, as they have bigger capacity,” Yudhoyono said, referring to another military aircraft procurement project. “Besides that, we will also rejuvenate the C-130 airplanes with new spare parts, also procured from Australia.”

In addition to the Hercules C-130s deal, Yudhoyono said both nations will boost cooperation in natural disaster management. The neighboring Pacific nations first brought the proposal forward jointly at the East Asia Summit last November.

Yudhoyono said both nations could assist other countries in the region by conducting disaster mitigation training.

“Mitigation is important to face disasters,” Yudhoyono said. “Therefore it is important to establish cooperation between Indonesian and Australian hospitals. This will be one of our cooperation pillars on health.”

Besides disaster mitigation, Yudhoyono said both nations would also cooperate on issues related to transnational crime.

“There’s also other joint activity on peacekeeping operations by Indonesia and Australia.”



Australia to Grant Five Hercules C-130 Aircraft to Indonesia | The Jakarta Globe

 

[MacanJawa]

yeah but overhaul and maintance expensive

 

[Luftwaffe]

yeah but overhaul and maintance expensive

Why would Indonesia want to buy australian C-130Hs when they can get CN-235 in time, good diplomatic ploy but its rather complicated to keep them then maintaining in house production of CN-235. What is wrong with Indonesian government accepting all trash from US-Australia.

 

[Alchemy]

Good to see a sound Australia-Indonesia relationship ...Can someone highlight Indonesia's foreign policy vis-a-vis China ?

 

[United]

payloads!!!

Could have gone with MC-130J

 

[xdrive]

Indonesia aren't buying anything.

They are getting the aircraft for free.

 

[United]

FREE!!!

but there must be a reason?

what do u want????

 

[xdrive]

Nothing.

We are getting the new Hercules Aircraft, and Indonesia could use the C-130's to improve their response to natural disasters etc. That's the reason they were given away. We regularly give away equipment/assets for free.

 

[Luftwaffe]

The RAAF’s C-130H Hercules will be retired early to save $250 million in operational and maintenance costs, the federal government’s budget for 2012-13 released Tuesday evening reveals.

Source: Early retirement for RAAF C-130Hs, but Battlefield Airlifter battles on | Australian Aviation Magazine


So how would it be a good for Indonesian Air Force IF it is costing $250M in operational and maintenance costs to australia. These C-130H were already due to be retired in 2012 this means they either needs to be extensively upgraded refurbished by Indonesia or park it in retirement hangers. These C-130s will prove to be disaster themselves unless they are upgraded refurbished airframe life extended on immediate basis.

 

[xdrive]

The RAAF’s C-130H Hercules will be retired early to save $250 million in operational and maintenance costs, the federal government’s budget for 2012-13 released Tuesday evening reveals.

Source: Early retirement for RAAF C-130Hs, but Battlefield Airlifter battles on | Australian Aviation Magazine


So how would it be a good for Indonesian Air Force IF it is costing $250M in operational and maintenance costs to australia. These C-130H were already due to be retired in 2012 this means they either needs to be extensively upgraded refurbished by Indonesia or park it in retirement hangers. These C-130s will prove to be disaster themselves unless they are upgraded refurbished airframe life extended on immediate basis.

Because they are getting 5 free aircraft to expand their airforces capability. It won't cost the Indonesians $250M to operate and maintain them because labour and all the other costs in Indonesia are 10x cheaper than in Australia. Our government has stated that when they are given to Indonesia, they will be in 100% working/flying condition. This is also a chance for the Indonesia to develop maintenance facilities and capabilities of their own.

At the end of the day, they are getting these great aircraft for FREE. I don't think they would be complaining nor do i think people should be acting as if they are getting a bad deal.

If they want to, they could just throw the aircraft out if they are bad. But as our government said, they are in 100% working/flying condition.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Because they are getting 5 free aircraft to expand their airforces capability. It won't cost the Indonesians $250M to operate and maintain them because labour and all the other costs in Indonesia are 10x cheaper than in Australia. Our government has stated that when they are given to Indonesia, they will be in 100% working/flying condition. This is also a chance for the Indonesia to develop maintenance facilities and capabilities of their own.

At the end of the day, they are getting these great aircraft for FREE. I don't think they would be complaining nor do i think people should be acting as if they are getting a bad deal.

If they want to, they could just throw the aircraft out if they are bad. But as our government said, they are in 100% working/flying condition.

Obviously these aircraft would be in condition to fly not 100% exactly as they were set to be decommissioned in 2012. Yes Indonesia will have to spend if not $250M atleast $175M because australia had 8 C130H out of them 5 are granted to indonesia. It has nothing to do with labour...Aircraft spares from US, upgrades, refurbishment at someone point of time. These aircrafts are over stressed for Years there is nothing cheap all the parts are standard provided by LM. FREE is good but then when its in their possession they will spend from their own pockets CN-235 are much cheaper to operate and maintain and in house production line is another plus point.

Point to note here is: I am not against this FREE gifts from australia to Indonesia but they aircrafts genuinely needs refurbishment-upgrades airframe life extension in order to fly them in safer condition for disaster relief and Yes it will cost them!...

 

[MacanJawa]

it still debatable on goverment there 2 kind politician in indonesia they are supporting TNI modernization program
and there support program if they got money