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Australia puts tough condition on uranium sale to India

I knew these anglo mother phukers can't be relied upon. Same holds true for UK, Canada and US .

India should align more towards Russia to get leverage on Kazakhstan.

Thorium based plants are only security for our future energy requirements.

Thorium based plants are only security for our future energy requirements.

We do have 2 operational uranium mines Jaduguda Mine and Tummalapalle uranium mine

and by 2050 we are going to get 30% of the Uranium from these mines and Nuclear Fuel Complex in Hyderabad was established in 1971
 
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I think the more prudent posters knew this was coming.

Bigger issue is always going to be India's entry into the NSG.

Australia's tactics will hold next to no significance if they persist with them after that.

Either they will lose out financially (at little to no cost to India since we will simply import from elsewhere) or they will backtrack and sweep this under the rug claiming it was meant for domestic political consumption.

So lets wait and see I guess.
 
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Lets see what Australia has asked for:
1. Separation of the civil and military components of the nuclear program - India already has that. That in-fact is the cornerstone of the India-US nuclear deal - that India will have a number of reactors under IAEA safeguards which will follow all international standards. Just putting the requirement that we have already committed to as a condition shows who the statement is meant for - the domestic anti-nuclear lobby which needs to be placated.

2. "The report said Australia must commit to "significant diplomatic resources to encouraging India to become a party to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, and to negotiate a fissile material cut-off treaty." - They have not made this a pre-condition to uranium supply - merely said they will commit significant diplomatic resources to encouraging India to become a party to CTBT and FMCT. Hasn't the world at large been trying to do exactly this since Pokharan-1?

The Australian economy depends on mining/resource extraction and sales of these minerals to major economies such as China and India. With the slowdown in China (China's coal imports have been falling, for instance), China won't account for that much new demand and India will probably be the largest market for Australian exports such as coal, liquefied natural gas and uranium. I think if we realize that, so do the Australians.

Having said that, my understanding is:
1. India needs imported uranium only for those reactors which are under IAEA safeguards already. Since 2008, we have been able to import uranium freely for these reactors from France, Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. We have also signed supply deals with Canada and other countries. Australia will be over and above these. So we already have plenty of sources.
2. India has some stockpile of uranium - it needs to expand this stockpile to ensure that if for some reason, the trade breaks down, we are not left high and dry.
 
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"The report said Australia must commit to "significant diplomatic resources to encouraging India to become a party to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, and to negotiate a fissile material cut-off treaty."

Yup they have left enough wiggle room in the interpretation of this grey area of legalese. So lets wait and see exactly what this "encouragement" and "negotiating" constitutes.

Agree with your post 100%.
 
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The article was too long so didn't bother reading all of it, but from what I read it seems like these conditions are only recommendations by an Australian committee to Australian policy makers.
What conditions among these are set on India would depend on the diplomacy that goes on behind closed doors.
 
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Just like USA when it backstabbed India at the UN, the West hates India too. You are just their colonial buttboy. Everybody hates India!

China will support them of course. India must be partitioned.
 
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Just like USA when it backstabbed India at the UN, the West hates India too. You are just their colonial buttboy. Everybody hates India!

China will support them of course. India must be partitioned.

Your attempt at flamewar is laughable and boring. Are you scrolling down the list of CCP mandated trolling because you have no IQ to come up with something more intelligent by yourself? Silly twit.
 
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Just like USA when it backstabbed India at the UN, the West hates India too. You are just their colonial buttboy. Everybody hates India!

China will support them of course. India must be partitioned.


Relax, go for a jog. Its more satisfying than trolling uselessly.
 
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Aussies loss is Kazakhs gain! Surely this will give a chance to economically less fortunate nations like Kazakhstan, Russia, South Africa etc to do Uranium business with India.
I knew these anglo mother phukers can't be relied upon. Same holds true for UK, Canada and US .

India should align more towards Russia to get leverage on Kazakhstan.

Thorium based plants are only security for our future energy requirements.

Thorium based plants are only security for our future energy requirements.

Its just a report by the committee and the Australian government is under no obligation to follow the recommendations. Australia, like India is a democracy and it needs to take everyone on board before it signs any such treaty.

Think of the LBA between India and Bangladesh.

The recommendations of the treaty committee are not binding on the Abbott government, but could be used by the opposition Green Party to put further obstacles in the way of uranium sales to India. In August this year, Green party activists were instrumental in overturning environmental clearances to the $16 b Carmichael coal mine project proposed by the Adani group.

However officials are much more hopeful about the prospects on the nuclear deal after the report was tabled. In response to a question from The Hindu, the Australian High Commission spokesperson said: “Bringing the agreement into force and making it possible for exports to go ahead are priorities for the government.

“The government will examine the findings of JSCOT, which has conducted a rigorous review of the agreement signed before Mr. Modi and Mr. Abbott last year, and respond as soon as possible.”

For the moment, the MEA is taking a “wait and watch” position on what the report will mean for uranium imports from Australia, that have been hanging fire since 2012.

“We view the JSCOT decision as a part of the internal processes of Australia, and will await the government response on how they intend to take it forward,” Indian High Commissioner to Australia Navdeep Suri told The Hindu over telephone from Canberra.
 
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I happen to enjoy both philosophy and economics.

Wow, impressive indeed. Please do engage in meaningful conversations at times with other members too. I hope you will find that more enjoyable than trolling.
 
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What are Indonesia's Uranium reserves?...and are they in uninhabited areas?

pretty much 70% of our lands are Uranium Reserves. do note Borneo and Sulawesi is not on the list since research were forbidden in rainforest sensitive area, but in the future when the area were to be researched, there will be lots of Uranium reserves there. West Papua also not included as it is alone is the biggest uranium reserves in the world along with Australia

Indonesia has at least 53,000 tons of uranium reserves | Embassy of Indonesia, Athens

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Just like USA when it backstabbed India at the UN, the West hates India too. You are just their colonial buttboy. Everybody hates India!

China will support them of course. India must be partitioned.

Please stop it. Our nation is united and we will never let anyone to see towards our country.

Australian panel gives conditional nod for uranium sale to India - The Hindu
Updated: September 10, 2015 03:31 IST

The Australian government says it is “examining” a report by a parliamentary committee that has recommended more safeguards in India’s nuclear programme before the government can approve uranium sales. The report was released by the Joint Standing committee on Treaties (JSCOT) that has been studying the Indo-Australian nuclear deal that was signed by Prime Ministers Tony Abbott and Narendra Modi in September 2014. The parliamentary report that has “in principle” approved the nuclear deal, recommended that India be encouraged to sign the nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT), to separate its civilian and military nuclear facilities further, and appoint an “independent national regulator” to oversee the movement of the uranium, also called Australia-Obligated Nuclear Material (AONM).

The recommendations of the treaty committee are not binding on the Abbott government, but could be used by the opposition Green Party to put further obstacles in the way of uranium sales to India. In August this year, Green party activists were instrumental in overturning environmental clearances to the $16 b Carmichael coal mine project proposed by the Adani group.

However officials are much more hopeful about the prospects on the nuclear deal after the report was tabled. In response to a question from The Hindu, the Australian High Commission spokesperson said: “Bringing the agreement into force and making it possible for exports to go ahead are priorities for the government.

“The government will examine the findings of JSCOT, which has conducted a rigorous review of the agreement signed before Mr. Modi and Mr. Abbott last year, and respond as soon as possible.”

For the moment, the MEA is taking a “wait and watch” position on what the report will mean for uranium imports from Australia, that have been hanging fire since 2012.

“We view the JSCOT decision as a part of the internal processes of Australia, and will await the government response on how they intend to take it forward,” Indian High Commissioner to Australia Navdeep Suri told The Hindu over telephone from Canberra.

‘Partial victory’

Sources in the MEA said the committee report was a “partial victory,” given that it has in principle ‘green-lighted’ the nuclear deal.

However according to an official, India cannot accept the additional safeguards proposed by the Australian committee. India has consistently opposed the NPT, braving sanctions for 4 decades rather than agree to a moratorium on nuclear testing. The recommendations on a national regulator may also exceed what India is prepared to do.

Sources also pointed out that unlike in the past, India now is not dependent on Australian uranium. Recent nuclear deals that have been renewed with Canada and Kazakhstan have also bolstered this view.
 
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Just like USA when it backstabbed India at the UN, the West hates India too. You are just their colonial buttboy. Everybody hates India!

China will support them of course. India must be partitioned.

Eleven Dingdong's 50 cent poodle is sure yapping fiercely today. He's been a good poodle - now someone throw him a bone.
 
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