Attempted IAF incursion - A Failed operation

[Hallian_Khan]

We also saying your air force did nothing

what else you want them to do? they violate our sovereighnty

Pakistan does not have LR SAM's covering the entire country.

thn do u xpt iaf to hover there so that paf come there n have chit chat wth them? accept defeat. it was iaf win over paf

 

[monitor]

So let’s get this right in a state of heightened tension, with the PAF being on a alert ( as per statements) a significant number of IAF warplanes managed to get past and hit Pakistani land.
God help Pakistan in a war with these lot st the healm.
Kargil no show.
US intrusion, didn’t have radars on.
IAF Mirage assault, erm they didn’t damage much.
Good grief, I despair my dear kin and brothers. What more can be said.

most disgraceful for PAF is that they were prepared yet could not fire back or prevent the IAF from coming inside 3/4 miles . what the recently inducted HQ-16 doing ? only solace for PAF is IAF failed to hit the actual target . what would happens if they were not ''well prepared '' IAF would destroy anything they wants .actually this failed mission is eye opening for PAF that they need more vigilance and modern equipment . Its the old bird F-16 that send not the JF-17 to safe the face .

 

[CriticalThought]

So let’s get this right in a state of heightened tension, with the PAF being on a alert ( as per statements) a significant number of IAF warplanes managed to get past and hit Pakistani land.
God help Pakistan in a war with these lot at the healm.
Kargil no show.
US intrusion, didn’t have radars on.
IAF Mirage assault, erm they didn’t damage much.
Good grief, I despair my dear kin and brothers. What more can be said.

Maybe you shouldn't comment on matters you don't understand.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I dont understand one thing here , All your Pakistanis claiming IAF ran away soon after attack. What do you expect?
Air crafts don't just hover around same place and wait for you to hit. IAF had a task and completed. They will release evidence of course.

Of course as always.

 

[waz]

Concerns are noted, but as the ISPR briefing pointed out, CAP's were in the air for multiple detections as they occurred. What I've read is 5-7 minutes response time for CAP's to get in the air. Given the speed of fighter jets, they would still have time to cross the LoC and remain in Pakistani airspace for several minutes before engagement range.

One could argue that this is where LR SAM batteries deployed to cover large chunks of the border would be extremely useful.

Bro I hear all this, but this is their bread and butter. They should be able to meet any eventuality and obviously prepare.
How many times can we let this go? What happens with war?

Maybe you shouldn't comment on matters you don't understand.

Oh keep quiet.
You’re a laughing stock.

 

[H!TchHiker]

most disgraceful for PAF is that they were prepared yet could not fire back or prevent the IAF from coming inside 3/4 miles . what the recently inducted HQ-16 doing ? only solace for PAF is IAF failed to hit the actual target . what would happens if they were not ''well prepared '' IAF would destroy anything they wants .actually this failed mission is eye opening for PAF that they need more vigilance and modern equipment . Its the old bird F-16 that send not the JF-17 to safe the face .

we should asked IAF each time to ring a bell to PAF , hello we are coming for few minutes be ready we will dodge you and come back..imagine if they come unannounced when PAF is not high alert...Really IAF will have its day

 

[Rank]

mano yaa na mano scrambled huway bhaag gaye jo b hay woh aye... kareeb border pe aye akar bayshak fuel tank drop he kia aur bhaag gaye shows kay aap ki airforce yani Pakistan ki airforce L ki b prepared nahi Air Defense marwa rahe the nechay??

 

[VCheng]

Bro I hear all this, but this is their bread and butter. They should be able to meet any eventuality and obviously prepare.
How many times can we let this go? What happens with war?

Resources to meet "any eventuality" are astronomical. Most militaries plan for only the most likely scenarios given their respective resource constraints.

 

[CriticalThought]

Bro I hear all this, but this is their bread and butter. They should be able to meet any eventuality and obviously prepare.
How many times can we let this go? What happens with war?


Oh keep quiet.
You’re a laughing stock.

Are you Indian? Is this an Indian forum? Are you trying to do a surgical strike against myself?

 

[monitor]

mano yaa na mano scrambled huway bhaag gaye jo b hay woh aye... kareeb border pe aye akar bayshak fuel tank drop he kia aur bhaag gaye shows kay aap ki airforce yani Pakistan ki airforce L ki b prepared nahi Air Defense marwa rahe the nechay??

If its true that they were inside Pakistan for 21 minutes yet Pakistan failed to shoot down any one of attacking the Aircraft is shameful.

 

[waz]

Are you Indian? Is this an Indian forum? Are you trying to do a surgical strike against myself?

Is this it? Are you an Indian, that’s too stupid for me to answer back to.

Don’t throw crap in my direction for asking honest questions. You may want to reply to the Indian posters falling over with laughter.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Bro I hear all this, but this is their bread and butter. They should be able to meet any eventuality and obviously prepare.
How many times can we let this go? What happens with war?

Yes, it's their bread and butter, but you can't change the ground realities:

1. Detection on radar.
2. Assessment of whether scramble is needed
3. Scramble orders issued
4. Time to get Scramble airborne
5. Time for Scramble to get within engagement range

Were those steps followed? Yes, and the fact that the incursion was limited to a few minutes would indicate that the response time was good. Any further improvements would require an LR SAM battery to engage while CAP was getting within engagement range.

 

[SrNair]

Concerns are noted, but as the ISPR briefing pointed out, CAP's were in the air for multiple detections as they occurred. What I've read is 5-7 minutes response time for CAP's to get in the air. Given the speed of fighter jets, they would still have time to cross the LoC and remain in Pakistani airspace for several minutes before engagement range.

One could argue that this is where LR SAM batteries deployed to cover large chunks of the border would be extremely useful.

If the DG ISPR was silent about attack ,this much humilation wouldnt have happen.
They themselves released the picture and confirmed Indian strikes.
Anyway they will begin to release proofs and pictures eventually.

Our fight is against terrorism not Pakistan or her innocent citizens

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Managed to source an old HUMINT report from Cuba. It seems that JEM did have a training camp in Bakalot. Attaching the relevant wikileaks file. Not sure how or in what point this info is applicable though.

There's a huffington post piece that has a thread on this forum. Used to be a JeM training camp that was converted into a Madrassa. The madrassa suffered no damage.

 

[CriticalThought]

Is this it? Are you an Indian, that’s too stupid for me to answer back to.

Don’t throw crap in my direction for asking honest questions. You may want to reply to the Indian posters falling over with laughter.

You are honestly asking stupid questions. Is that my fault? Ask a pertinent question, and I can respond. As for the Indians, what do monkeys do?