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Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

Yara she even said Osama was killed by Omar sheikh so are these zionists gonna believe that too or just one sided blind propaganda eye they have ?

i think that's what i have tried reiterating in my post # 2001

They would believe and quote one thing from the same guy and blatantly term the same guy a liar if he/she said something that didnt suit their agenda. Hypocrisy at its best!
 
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Lieutenant Syed Yaser Abbas led the rapid response squad against terrorist intrustion into PNS Mehran (PN Airbase) on the night of 22nd May, 2011. He heard the gunshots and led his jawans from the front. He reiceived 3 bullets fighting the enemy and lost breath at PNS Rahat few minutes later.

We had many mutual friends; he hailed also from my native Kurram Agency.


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Like all the other fallen martyrs of our motherland, his bravery, courage, personality and sacrifice makes entire Pakistan proud.


Our resolve to fight these terrorist scum and uproot them. Hopefulyl we will also uncover clues as to who exactly is providing material and other support to the enemies of our nation. Inshallah.

Look at this, such a sad day. I saw his family on tv and its heartbreaking. But what's even more heartbreaking is that more than likely his sacrifice and thousands others like him who've died at the hands of terrorists, they're sacrifices will go in vain.
I'm not interested in what motives and what security lapses and inside job or not, I want to know will Pak govt and Pak army avenge the deaths of the martyred? Will they bring their killers to justice? More than likely, no. That's what's really heart breaking. :(
 
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Jana, my surprise is that here in India we at-least force them to resign....There is lot of bashing and finally something happens....Let me give you examples

- After mumbai, home minister had to go
- Chief minister of Maharashtra had to go
- So much mud-slinging on CWG but finally people involved had to go
- So many scams but finally telecom minister is in Jail

In short we atleast change them...this guy has failed the nation(Pak) so many times and yet he is on the same post....this is surprising...


our situation very different the country cant afford to have abrupt fresh elections at this time. and resigning is going to do no good as another will replace him just like in your country.

we need an entire overhaul of the system
 
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Rahman malik didnt know what he was saying..We have to wait until tomorrow when Primeminister meets the top brass and Navy cheif gives a statement...
Many things are suspicious....
The number of terrorists initially reported was much more than whats being reported now...
Navy cheif's statement was different from what Interior minister said.
Now the dead bodies of terrorists is being transported in civilian ambulances to non secure civil hospitals,from where whoever wants can disappear the important evidence...

TV channels have informed that 4 terrorists were killed and 2 got away. Isn't it a joke that despite so tight security (as was claimed) during the operation where Navy Marines, Navy Commandos, Rangers, Police etc were involved in large nos. the terrorists still manage to escape does it not show the competency & performance of our defenders who have really disgarced the whole nation besides heavy financial & human losses at the hands of the small band of terrorists. Its really shameful. The height is that PN chief is not accepting that there was security lapse? Its really a joke. No responsible official has the decency/ courage to step down and accept that where the weaknesses are and can we expect any timely strict actions to be taken against all responsible parties. We can only pray.

Thanks
 
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our situation very different the country cant afford to have abrupt fresh elections at this time. and resigning is going to do no good as another will replace him just like in your country.

we need an entire overhaul of the system

I am in agreement with you but only partially....I agree that fresh elections cannot happen but if you don't put the minister accountable nothing will change...You need a different strategy because whatever is being followed right now is not working...and when i am talking about accountability i am not only referring to home minister...i am very much talking about ISI, Army.....each institution role is to protect Pakistan and her interests...As of now they failed miserably...Perhaps it is time for a new Army Chief - who will bring fresh ideas to the table...may be a new ISI chief can bring in change or may be a new home minister....The message is simple - either do the job or vanish into thin air....
 
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I salute your patience here...Buddy he is your home minister and is accountable for all the mess....In my view he is surely a scum because he has the nerve to continue on a post where he is not able to deliver any good....Two big slaps in just 2 weeks span(i am ignoring all those bombs killing innocents) and yet he is on the post!!!!!

You didn't get my point. Every incompetent minister, military general or police officer has to resign and this is the norm in every democratic country. But this is not the only reason why army lovers hate him. They simply hate the whole civilian government and relish in being kicked in their by the shining military boots after every ten years for the next ten years.
 
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our situation very different the country cant afford to have abrupt fresh elections at this time. and resigning is going to do no good as another will replace him just like in your country.

we need an entire overhaul of the system

Don't have elections but kick the incompetent and appoint some one in his/her place. Surely the house of representatives in a democracy are more than a handful given the number of constituencies in Pakistan.
 
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You didn't get my point. Every incompetent minister, military general or police officer has to resign and this is the norm in every democratic country. But this is not the only reason why army lovers hate him. They simply hate the whole civilian government and relish in being kicked by the military boots after every ten years for the next ten years.

No disagreement there.....Civilian rule is hard in the periphery but in the long run for Pakistan...Military brings in short-term stability and that's why an ordinary Pakistani has more faith in Army than civilian leadership...However high time for some accountability
 
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Please do laugh at your democratic interior juga minister rehman malik.

@Jana

you are a very senior member of this forum, why JANA are you so critical of the interior minister & not of the army. The interior minister isn't responsible for the ARMY. he is in charge of the civillian security apparatus and as i can remember the CCPO of KARACHI had informed of an attack on milltary installations & some other sensitive places in a press conference to the media. the interior minister does not organize the security of the MILITARY BASES, the guards & the security personnel present at those bases don't come under his command, yet the forces under his command were there at the base within minutes, although they were barred from going inside the base. REHMAN MALIK was also the only high official who took the trouble to go to karachi, & was present at the place while the operation was going on. whereas the MILITARY leadership was mostly asleep, i still haven't heard of any statement by the GREAT ASHFAQ PERVAIZ KIYANI, nor there has been any defenitive statement by the ISPR.


1. seems you are late so coudnt read the entire thread so nevermind.

2. i am critical of him because he is a tainted person who had damaged Pakistan many times. he is the person who owned a British spying company shafaf and you never know working against Pakistan.

3. he came to Karachi in the morning at 4am with flashy chamkeeli waistcoat speaking shitt

4. Army is composed of thousands of jawans and officers are alike who are braving harsh circumstances and even working in areas which is responsibility of civilian govt,


5. yes if you want then do criticise kiyani and pasha and MI people they are as much responsible as RM
 
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Pakistanis are asking: Why do they hate us? They hate what we see right here in this chamber a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.


Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists!



Sincerely, A1Kaid, Ministry of Intelligence
 
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Pakistan needs to get ready for a war with US. No matter how unlikely a victory is, the war is inevitable and we need to do the best we can to prepare for it. I want each Pakistani citizen who owns firearms to get ready to shoot American terrorist soldiers like how they'd shoot an Indian one in the cities and where ever they see them. Time to get ready for yankee hunting.

This is tru bro! cuz this looks inevitable within next 6 months at most I guess....I guess our armed forces failed us against US/NATO maybe then Awaam gotta fight for their survival then....:)
 
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The terrorist hate us because of our civil liberties and our freedoms because of our flourishing democracy which poses a threat to their dark ideology of hatred.
 
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British Army General commenting on BBC,

"Pakistan is well capable of taking and giving hard knocks".

I guess it says it all.
 
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