Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Dazzler]

A pattern has emerged in terrorist attacks on Pakistani forces...

October 2009 GHQ attack (Attack on Pakistan Army)
May 2011 PNS Mehran attack (Attack on Pakistan Navy)
August 2012 PAF Kamra Minhas attack (Attack on PAF)

Thats all three forces dealt with....



Hi Nabil...

RPG has an effective range of 200 meters and some aircraft hangers are within that range from the rear Boundary wall .. It is Plausible that terrorist RPG did hit the aircraft hanger...

Although all of us wish that SAAB AWACS are safe....

They used grenades but just a couple of RPG fires were detected, one hit the gate and another is reportedly went astray from target, noting that it did not destroy an aircraft.

 

[Safriz]

They used grenades but just a couple of RPG fires were detected, one hit the gate and another is reportedly went astray from target, noting that it did not destroy an aircraft.

That is very good news.....
Thanks.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Actually this intelligence is at least 4 months old and the security inside the Airbase was beefed up immediately...

The problem is that Pakistan armed forces don't have Jurisdiction outside the premises of the Airbase and so the intelligence was passed on to Police to keep the area outside the airbase secure...
and you know our police very well

The Pak establishment is going to follow this law in this case but they are going to make exceptions to this law for Pakistan armed forces conducting operations in West Pakistan. Protecting airbases and other installations that are vital to national security should follow the same provisional exceptions as military operations in West Pak.

Pakistan's national security is being jeopardized by incompetence/corruption/negligence.

Pakistan military and civilian leadership is clearly inept. These people look like fools when they are shown celebrating an attack that was repelled when it should not have occured in the first place and/or have attained the depth of penetration as it did.

Now I begin to question the "government within the government." Have they lost their effectiveness in gathering intelligence and subverting the schemes of those wish to do Pakistan harm? There have been successive failures by both Military and ISI and yet nothing seems to change.

 

[TVVELVEMO$]

Commiserations with the downed Pakistani warrior(s) and his next of kin. It does raise questions about who is the enemy and do Pakistanis fully grasp the enormity of the problem. When the affinity of one's own homeland is replaced with blind trust of alien indoctrination, you get killer zombees.

Yes your Nukes are safe for now. Yes you killed all of them. Yes your reaction was better. But...their spokesman is still out there taking interviews and planning another embarrasment for your nation. And you know what, this guy is in Pakistan not in St. elsewhere. To compensate for only one aircraft, these Beardos (aka miscreants) then chased down a bus and killed a dozen innocent Pakistanis, who happened to be from a minority faith. I do not see anyone too cut up about that here? Are you in denial?

My information may be ultimately incorrect but the damaged aircraft may have been a China-Pak JF-17 Thunder on the flighline. My source?..well he may put that in Wiki. But don't wait up for that though.

 

[Safriz]

Commiserations with the downed Pakistani warrior(s) and his next of kin. It does raise questions about who is the enemy and do Pakistanis fully grasp the enormity of the problem. When the affinity of one's own homeland is replaced with blind trust of alien indoctrination, you get killer zombees.

Yes your Nukes are safe for now. Yes you killed all of them. Yes your reaction was better. But...their spokesman is still out there taking interviews and planning another embarrasment for your nation. And you know what, this guy is in Pakistan not in St. elsewhere. To compensate for only one aircraft, these Beardos (aka miscreants) then chased down a bus and killed a dozen innocent Pakistanis, who happened to be from a minority faith. I do not see anyone too cut up about that here? Are you in denial?

My information may be ultimately incorrect but the damaged aircraft may have been a China-Pak JF-17 Thunder on the flighline. My source?..well he may put that in Wiki. But don't wait up for that though.

Pakistan is doing what they can...and have no foreign support..
On the other hand TTP have all the foreign support they want and that includes training and ammunition from Afghanistan based ISAF/NATO/USA forces and that for us is a fact.

While USA pressurises Pakistan to act against only one type of terrorists that is the ones from Pak-Afghan borders..and totally opposes any action against another terrorists the Baloch terrorists....
Pakistan cannot comply with such two faced demands from USA...
On one hand they say a terrorist is a terrorist,no matter what nationality,religion cast or creed..
On other hand they are openly supporing one terrorist group BLA,and most probably supporting TTP also but that cannot be proved..
But USA's support for terrorist BLA is open and in the news...

Still you think Pakistan should listen to USA?

 

[Amavous]

Asalam - O - Alikum
Below artical from "The News"

‘Damaged Awacs aircraft repairable’
Hanif Khalid
Friday, August 17, 2012
From Print Edition

ISLAMABAD: A nozzle of an Airborne Warning and Control System (Awacs) aircraft was damaged as a rocket-propelled grenade hit it when terrorists stormed Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Airbase Minhas in Kamra on Thursday. However, the aircraft is repairable, Minister for Defence Syed Naveed Qamar said.


“The engineers and technicians of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex have examined the partially damaged aircraft, and according to the initial report, this most advanced Awacs aircraft of the Saab-2000 category can be repaired,” said the defence minister while talking to The News at an Iftar-dinner hosted by the Iranian ambassador here on Thursday. “A test flight of the aircraft will be conducted after repairing it,” he added.

According to sources, three to four dozen aircraft were present at the airbase when the terrorists launched the attack. Most of these aircraft were brought to Kamra for overhauling and repair.

Syed Naveed Qamar, who was chief guest at the Iftar dinner, said that the Pakistan-Iran friendship should be promoted for the mutual interest of the two countries. He said all avenues would be explored to enhance cooperation between the two countries in the defence sector and all resources would be utilised for this purpose.

He said the Pak-Iran economic cooperation would also be promoted and the Pak-Iran gas pipeline would be completed without any further delay.

Allah Hafiz
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[Dil Pakistan]

Jang also reporting that SAAB2000 has taken a hit but can be repaired.

This is really annoyning, given that there was an intelligence report that attack is imminent. I am really angry

 

[SamantK]

Pakistan is doing what they can...and have no foreign support..
On the other hand TTP have all the foreign support they want and that includes training and ammunition from Afghanistan based ISAF/NATO/USA forces and that for us is a fact.

Im sure Paksitan can do more than what it is doing, last time Paksitan did something TTP was born and then nothing happened.. Paksitan IMO has to go the whole nine yards now..

 

[Safriz]

Im sure Paksitan can do more than what it is doing, last time Paksitan did something TTP was born and then nothing happened.. Paksitan IMO has to go the whole nine yards now..

The one thing Pakistan cannot do and wont even try to do is to please India as that is impossible.

 

[Safriz]

Asalam - O - Alikum
Below artical from "The News"

‘Damaged Awacs aircraft repairable’
Hanif Khalid
Friday, August 17, 2012
From Print Edition

ISLAMABAD: A nozzle of an Airborne Warning and Control System (Awacs) aircraft was damaged as a rocket-propelled grenade hit it when terrorists stormed Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Airbase Minhas in Kamra on Thursday. However, the aircraft is repairable, Minister for Defence Syed Naveed Qamar said.


“The engineers and technicians of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex have examined the partially damaged aircraft, and according to the initial report, this most advanced Awacs aircraft of the Saab-2000 category can be repaired,” said the defence minister while talking to The News at an Iftar-dinner hosted by the Iranian ambassador here on Thursday. “A test flight of the aircraft will be conducted after repairing it,” he added.

According to sources, three to four dozen aircraft were present at the airbase when the terrorists launched the attack. Most of these aircraft were brought to Kamra for overhauling and repair.

Syed Naveed Qamar, who was chief guest at the Iftar dinner, said that the Pakistan-Iran friendship should be promoted for the mutual interest of the two countries. He said all avenues would be explored to enhance cooperation between the two countries in the defence sector and all resources would be utilised for this purpose.

He said the Pak-Iran economic cooperation would also be promoted and the Pak-Iran gas pipeline would be completed without any further delay.

Allah Hafiz
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This was a statement by a civilian guy at an iftar party..
Not an official statement and i am reluctant to believe this...
We all know the professional competence of our Ministers..

What does he mean by "A nozzle"?

 

[TalibanSwatter]

DAWN

As with previous attacks, the possibility of insider help to the militants in the assault on Kamra is also very high. From sympathisers of radical Islamist thought to direct supporters of militant groups, the army appears to have a militancy problem, the severity of which is hidden from the public because investigations and court martials are often carried out in secret. The wider concern going forward ought to have the army’s screening procedures: how robust and effective is the surveillance and vetting of the armed forces’ personnel to prevent an incident before it happens? Clearly, as recent history suggests, not robust or effective enough — but what will it take for a more serious and sustained effort?

Finally, the question that has bedevilled the fight against militancy: when will the state, both the army and the political government, drive home the message to the Pakistani public that the war is real, it is against a radicalised fringe of Pakistan and that unless the war is fought withtotal commitment and purpose, the state and society itself will spiral towards irreversible disaster? Gen Kayani’s Independence Day message contained the first strands of that message but it has to be sustained and spread to the farthest corners of the country. The ones shouting ‘this isn’t our war’ — many on the political right — need to be countered, firmly and uneq-uivocally. Delay that battle any longer and the already manifold complications will grow yet more complicated.

 

[fatman17]

U.S.: Pakistan Capable Of Securing Nuclear Arsenal

August 17, 2012 | 0225 GMT


The U.S. government Aug. 16 expressed confidence in the Pakistani government's ability to secure its nuclear arsenal following attacks on an air base in that country, Xinhua reported. U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said the United States is confident that Pakistan is aware of the range of potential threats to its nuclear arsenal and has secured it accordingly. Nuland said that Pakistan issued a statement denying that there was either any nuclear material or any nukes at the air base that was attacked, adding that the United States does not have any information that would contradict that.

the global master has spoken! so chill again!

 

[Safriz]

DAWN

As with previous attacks, the possibility of insider help to the militants in the assault on Kamra is also very high. From sympathisers of radical Islamist thought to direct supporters of militant groups, the army appears to have a militancy problem, the severity of which is hidden from the public because investigations and court martials are often carried out in secret. The wider concern going forward ought to have the army’s screening procedures: how robust and effective is the surveillance and vetting of the armed forces’ personnel to prevent an incident before it happens? Clearly, as recent history suggests, not robust or effective enough — but what will it take for a more serious and sustained effort?

Finally, the question that has bedevilled the fight against militancy: when will the state, both the army and the political government, drive home the message to the Pakistani public that the war is real, it is against a radicalised fringe of Pakistan and that unless the war is fought withtotal commitment and purpose, the state and society itself will spiral towards irreversible disaster? Gen Kayani’s Independence Day message contained the first strands of that message but it has to be sustained and spread to the farthest corners of the country. The ones shouting ‘this isn’t our war’ — many on the political right — need to be countered, firmly and uneq-uivocally. Delay that battle any longer and the already manifold complications will grow yet more complicated.

54 people have been arrested so far for investigations...
Hopefully the truth will come out soon.

 

[SamantK]

The one thing Pakistan cannot do and wont even try to do is to please India as that is impossible.

Keep enjoying these attacks then, and wait for their spokesperson...

 

[alibaz]

Second injure of Kamra attack Sepoy Muhammad Iqbal has embraced shahadat thereby taking causalities to two. ARY News
Inna Lillah he wa inna aliehe Rajeoon.