Attack on Canadian parliament traced back to self radicalized IS supporter

[Alienoz_TR]

Are you talking about the Canadian or @koolio?

Islam gives ennui a violent outlet: link

This one:

 

[koolio]

Don't lie. Don't misrepresent. Don't draw analogies that don't fit. Diplomad isn't saying all the apples are bad, just that the tree they grew from is so you can expect a lot of bad fruit from it.

Seriously you have lost the plot, just because a criminal or a terrorist kills someone, doesnt mean the whole religion is at fault.

 

[Solomon2]

Seriously you have lost the plot, just because a criminal or a terrorist kills someone, doesnt mean the whole religion is at fault.

Not one terrorist, but tens of thousands. So who has "lost the plot", exactly?

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Not one terrorist, but tens of thousands. So who has "lost the plot", exactly?

White European kills another white European.

-You look at it from religious perspective.
-I look at it from ethnic perspective.

 

[sur]

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The shooting came two days after an Islamic convert ran down two Canadian soldiers with his car, killing one, near Montreal, before being shot and killed by police.....

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And now in today's incidence, ALL signatures of a set-up are there:
A mentally ill guy who was under continuous watch of security agencies:

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Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, the man being identified as the gunman killed in Ottawa on Wednesday, appears to have lived at various times — and committed various criminal offences — in Montreal, Vancouver and Aylmer, Que.

A man with the same name and age listed an Aylmer address when he was charged in that city with breaching release conditions from a previous charge, according to court records. The charge was later withdrawn.

A Zehaf-Bibeau resided in Montreal’s Villeray-Saint Michel-Park Extension borough between 2004 and 2006. His most recent court record indicates Zehaf-Bibeau fell off the map for three years, as far as the Montreal courthouse was concerned, because he failed to show up in court on a simple marijuana charge that had been filed against him on March 14, 2006.

He turned up in court more than three years later, on Dec. 12, 2009, to plead guilty to the charge. As part of his sentence he was granted an absolute discharge. (At that time, he was charged and convicted under the name Michael Bibeau-Zehaf, reversing his surname.)

His most serious conviction came on Dec. 7, 2004, when Zehaf-Bibeau pleaded guilty to possession of phencyclidine, also known as PCP, and was sentenced to a 60-day prison term. On the same day, he also pleaded guilty to marijuana possession and was sentenced to one day in prison. He has also been convicted for failing to comply with conditions of a release.

Sources and court records also indicated he lived in Vancouver for a period of time — and Vancouver police said Wednesday night they were working with Ottawa officials on the file, but declined to release any information publicly.

Zehaf-Bibeau had previously been listed as a resident of The Beacon, a Salvation Army rooming house on Cordova Street East on Vancouver’s East Side.

A Michael Joseph Paul Zehaf Bibeau, 32, was charged with a robbery that took place in Vancouver on Dec. 16, 2011, British Columbia court records show.

He was convicted in February 2012 of the lesser included offence of uttering threats and was sentenced to just a day in jail.

A man identified on Twitter as Michael Zehaf worked briefly for a Burnaby, B.C. company called Bathurst Irrigation, according to owner John Bathurst.

Bathurst told the Citizen his son, who is a convert to Islam, had hired Zehaf after meeting him at a mosque in Burnaby.

The man worked for the company for only two days “digging holes,” Bathurst said.

“He was not all there,” he said. “We are talking about mental illness.”

The young man “seemed unstable” and “didn’t see to have any kind of rationale approach” he added.

Bathurst remembered Zehaf as a large-framed man and said he thought he might have played football at one time.

Bathurst says that he was once interviewed by agents with the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service another man that his son recruited from the same mosque as a temporary labourer.

“We had a guy who worked for us for two weeks. I had to meet with a CSIS guys.”

Another address Zehaf-Bibeau used in Montreal’s Ahuntsic area, on Rue René-Bauset, was owned by a person named Susan Bibeau, according to Quebec property records.

The phone number associated with the address was shared by someone named Bulgasem Zehaf.

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They HAD to revive Islamophobia, it had been long incidence-free time in West , so their agencies HAD to stage another false-flag to refresh people's delusions.
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[Solomon2]

-You look at it from religious perspective.
-I look at it from ethnic perspective.

The DiploMad looks at it from his perspective.

 

[VCheng]

The DiploMad looks at it from his perspective.

No other perspectives allowed!

 

[Solomon2]

No other perspectives allowed!

It's misrepresentation to tag me with a perspective that I never said was mine. Plenty of times I post stuff here that I don't agree with 100% or even at all, just to stretch readers' minds.

 

[VCheng]

It's misrepresentation to tag me with a perspective that I never said was mine. Plenty of times I post stuff here that I don't agree with 100% or even at all, just to stretch readers' minds.

ALL "other" perspectives are haram!

 

[Solomon2]

all apples in trees are not rotten..

DiploMad never used the words apple or rotten. He clearly thinks the problem is the tree.

 

[Black Widow]

not surprised by this at all. I wouldn't be shocked if this happens again in Canada,U.S,UK, and Australia.

IS and other Jihadi groups are masters of propaganda, but the fact only a small numbers of radical Muslims actually do attacks shows that we don't have a homegrown terrorist problem and that 99.9999% of Muslims are peaceful.

Why are u defending the undefendable? 8 Pakistani Muslim Terrorists siezed Mumbai for days, 10 Pakistani/Arab Muslim Terrorists brought down Twin Towers, 8 Pakistani/Brits/African Muslim terrorists created havoc in London Tubes.. Imagine what if 0.1% of Muslim become terrorists??

why don't a christian from remote village of Kerla getting radicalized when a christian is killed in Canada (By Muslim)? What is it which is pushing a Muslim from Canada being radicalized ??

You can't sweep the filth under carpet by such sweeping commnets. (not all muslims are terrorists)

If I am a Security officer, for me every Muslim is a potential terrorist. I will keep eye on each madarsas and Muslim. Nothing comes before Humanity, not even Islam (religion).

Have you ever read the quran it does not promote or preach to kill non muslims. there is no difference between a criminal and a terrorist both will kill anyone and go to any extent to achieve their aims.

Does ISIS, AQ, Taliban read same Quran? If yes then may be something like this in your book...

 

[Solomon2]

why don't a christian from remote village of Kerla getting radicalized when a christian is killed in Canada (By Muslim)? What is it which is pushing a Muslim from Canada being radicalized ??

When I studied the genesis of Pakistan I wondered if the real reason Jinnah wanted to leave India was to establish a refuge where Muslims could drop their religion without being overwhelmed by Hindus.

 

[Jaanbaz]

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Thursday, October 23, 2014

Murder in Canada: "Experts" Wrong, Again

As I write this, we have not yet heard all the details of the assault on Parliament in Ottawa and the murder of two Canadian soldiers, one by an automobile hit-and-run in Quebec Province and the other in front of the War Memorial in Ottawa. As is usual, one should always take with a grain or two or three or four of salt initial press reports. They almost always have a high inaccuracy quotient brought about by a combination of factors such as, the natural confusion surrounding violent events; media outlets desire to scoop each other which leads to reporting gossip, rumor, and hyperbole as facts; and, of course, the demands of political correctness which force journalists and officials to censor certain and often obvious facts.

What do we know as of this moment?

Islam. That is what we know.

Recent converts to Islam carried out both brutal murders.

As this humble blog has noted re the horrid Lee Rigby beheading in England (hereand here), the Kenya Westgate mall massacre (here and here), the Boston Marathon bombings (here and here) the shootings at Ft. Hood, the DC Beltway Sniper (What was his name? Oh, yes, John Allen Mohammed), the Oklahoma beheading and so many more incidents in the US and elsewhere, media, "experts," and officials prove so reluctant to place the blame where it belongs that it is almost comical, well, comical in a horrible sort of perverse manner.

We have the inevitable statements about there not existing a "link" between the particular incident under discussion and international--code for Muslim--terrorists. We have the desperate search for a culprit who is not Muslim: e.g., in the Ottawa shooting we had initial press reports of a Native American gunman. The press gleefully jumps on the fact that many of these crimes were by people born in the countries where they carried out their crimes: e.g., lots of coverage of the Ottawa shooter being Canadian-born.

When some gutsy Western country, such as Australia, pre-empts the killers andbreaks up their plot--one strikingly similar to what happened in Canada--well, the"experts" immediately "raise questions" about the ability of ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or some other group to carry out such long-range activities.

Increasingly I am coming to the conclusion that "expert" is just another word for "naive fool."

In addition, we see what I previously called the "rush to exonerate." Writing about the disappearance of a Malaysian B-777, I noted that,

It would seem that at a minimum police and media would want to shut up about whether this aircraft disappeared because of terrorism. I also wish media and others would stop citing Interpol as some sort of great investigative agency. It is just a collector of data sent on a voluntary basis by police and intel organizations around the world. It is hardly a complete data base. I love the phrase, "there's no evidence to suggest either [passenger] was connected to any terrorist organization."<...> Would terrorists generally use people "known" to be connected to terrorism to board aircraft? The murderous Clown Posse that flew the planes into the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, and the Pennsylvania countryside had no "known" connection to terror groups, or they would not have gotten their visas in the first place.
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Whether these killers were born in England, Canada, Australia, Russia, the USA, or elsewhere, they all had one thing in common. Guess. Can you? Try. Yes, they were all "radicalized" to use the oh-so delicate PC phrase in vogue among the progressive bien pensant. In other words these thugs were Muslim, many of them social losers and recent converts to that totalitarian creed.
There is no need for an ISIS indoctrination, logistics line, training, or other support. The Quran and the local mosque provide all that is needed.

Can you give us a solution to the problem instead of being a typical bigot you are.

 

[Solomon2]

Can you give us a solution to the problem instead of being a typical bigot you are.

One needs a frank and honest statement of the problem before one can efficiently pursue its solution.

 

[Jaanbaz]

One needs a frank and honest statement of the problem before one can efficiently pursue its solution.

What is your solution? I'm interested to know. Please do share with us. Different people have come up with different theories as to extremism amongst Muslims. Will deporting all Muslims from USA, Canada and Europe work do you think?