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Attack At URI---Was It Staged For Nawaz Sharif's Sake By India

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But only in dreams. Reality is far different from possibility you do understand that?

Who is dreaming?

Okay, I will humor you and your "reality". What is an alien? A race of living creatures who are extra terrestrial? So by so called western scientific definition, anything not human or from planet earth is alien.

In Islam, the faith decrees belief in creatures made of fire and nur, the djinn and the angels (other religions do the same or similar), and that they travel between worlds, planets, dimensions, or co-exist. Now if any of their phenomenon gets visible (not all cloaking devices are perfect), wouldn't that be considered alien?

hence I say, they are possible. To quote a brilliant movie "Contact", The billions of stars in the sky, and no other life form, will be an awful waste of space"

We are off topic.
 
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But Aliens do exist.

a·li·en
1. belonging to a foreign country or nation.
noun
2. A foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.

By this definition, PDF is currently home to thousands of aliens.
 
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Hi,

Somewhere around 30 years + ago---the then Benazir Bhutto wrote to the Indian govt to wage war on pakistan so that pressure can be put on the generals in pakistan to get here elected.

It is the same scenario over here one more time.

Nawaz Sharif just did not happen to get back to pakistan after his exile. He had presented Pakistan on a platter and sold it out to India to gain the favors and support. Throughout his tenure as a PM---he has acted as a lackey of India and never raised a voice against them.

Since the onslaught of the Panama leaks---the indian govt had to committ quite a few terrorist activities inside of pakistan to divert the attention of the pakistani masses away from the Panama issue.

But the talk of the town now is that the URI attack was an own attack by India to create major issues across the border so that the movement re-started by Imran Khan fizzles out due to the threat of war.

I had also raised this issue of Nawaz Sharif as a plant a long time ago---. And this issue has now been brought up on the public forums in pakistan as well---by some very senior politicians.

Personally---I have no doubts that Nawaz is a sell out.
You guys even bad name your own PM, I feel sorry for you guys.
Disgusting
 
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its Indian move to divert attentions from Kashmir Issue, which was very well taken on UN.

Nawaz and modi nothing to do with, but don't forgot that point, that when Chinese President visiting Islamabad, which power stopped him to visit, and now who is the one who always started their anti politics when tensions raised on borders, and now who is one who not participated in All Parties conference on India Pakistan relations.
 
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You guys even bad name your own PM, I feel sorry for you guys.
Disgusting


We are in habit of calling a murderer a murderer, a thief a thief, a fraud a fraud, a cheat a cheat ........... sorry to disappoint you it will take a lot of reinventing of history and propaganda plus brainwashing to make us worship a chai wala thug as our PM.

Even more disgusting is to vote for a fanatic and elect him to be PM of the country........... but we all know how fond you are to be considered as superior in everything.
 
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In the context of topic, by claiming Fatima Jinnah to be an agent of India and America, what he did was set a deadly precedent, Now it doesn't take a minute for people to claim he or she whoever that may be is a foreign agent. Right from the prime minister of your country, political leaders, cricketers, bureaucrats, journalists, even the @WebMaster and moderators on the forum are fair game for this mudslinging match. Once it was deemed ok to label Fatima Jinnah as such, everyone else is fair game, and thus this thread.
Nawaz is a different breed of politicians ------
 
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The only example of ‘Ghost’ attack or pretext that I remember was the Gulf of Tonkin incident of 1964 which started the Vietnam War. It was reported that USS Maddox was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats resulting in a brief firefight where North Vietnamese boats were damaged with no US casualties. In 2005 it was revealed that Maddox had fired 3 shots but there were no causalities or damage to any of the vessels involved. This incident was used to get Congress approve ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ Resolution which resulted in the Vietnam War.

Sacrificing one or two may be acceptable for justification or a pretext for war but not a major incident such as URI attack. Therefore I regret my inability to swallow that Indian gov’t or any gov’t for that matter, would arrange killing of 18 of her soldiers in order to create a pretext to start a war or to help another country’s PM.

It is also hard to believe that the whole URI episode is totally fake. I would repeat my earlier postulation that the incident is the work of Islamic extremist elements, who would like an armed confrontation between India & Pakistan so that they could create an ISIS like state in Pakistan in the aftermath.

I am however deeply disappointed at the jingoistic attitude of the Indian media and the security analysts etc. who are drunk with power and arrogance and intent on keeping a high state of tension.

Perhaps living abroad for 50 years and having contacts with a vast number of different nationalities has turned me into a pacifist. No matter what is the reason, I cannot see what good can come out of an India/ Pakistan war and how this would resolve Kashmir or any other problem.
 
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The only example of ‘Ghost’ attack or pretext that I remember was the Gulf of Tonkin incident of 1964 which started the Vietnam War. It was reported that USS Maddox was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats resulting in a brief firefight where North Vietnamese boats were damaged with no US casualties. In 2005 it was revealed that Maddox had fired 3 shots but there were no causalities or damage to any of the vessels involved. This incident was used to get Congress approve ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ Resolution which resulted in the Vietnam War.

Sacrificing one or two may be acceptable for justification or a pretext for war but not a major incident such as URI attack. Therefore I regret my inability to swallow that Indian gov’t or any gov’t for that matter, would arrange killing of 18 of her soldiers in order to create a pretext to start a war or to help another country’s PM.

It is also hard to believe that the whole URI episode is totally fake. I would repeat my earlier postulation that the incident is the work of Islamic extremist elements, who would like an armed confrontation between India & Pakistan so that they could create an ISIS like state in Pakistan in the aftermath.

I am however deeply disappointed at the jingoistic attitude of the Indian media and the security analysts etc. who are drunk with power and arrogance and intent on keeping a high state of tension.

Perhaps living abroad for 50 years and having contacts with a vast number of different nationalities have turned me into a pacifist. No matter what is the reason, I cannot see what good can come out of an India/ Pakistan war and how this would resolve Kashmir or any other problem.

India has only demand and desire -- Stop terrorism

And of course ; there can be never any compromise on Kashmir

So Pakistan has to abandon this dream of conquering Kashmir
 
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