ATR-72 for Pakistan Navy

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

How credible is the AESA radar that's envisaged to be on the PN ATRs? I understand Bangladesh recently selected the same radar for illegal fishing etc detection. Is this radar good enough to hunt IN ships? @Quwa

Leonardo didn't disclose the range, but the Seaspray is capable of tracking surface targets, including ships. In fact, Saab is packaging the Seaspray 7500E with the Swordfish MPA, which is advertised as being capable of AShW. The rest depends on the AShM the PN decides to pair with the ATR-72 MPA, assuming it intends to use it for AShW.

 

[HRK]

How credible is the AESA radar that's envisaged to be on the PN ATRs? I understand Bangladesh recently selected the same radar for illegal fishing etc detection. Is this radar good enough to hunt IN ships? @Quwa

not sure about BD's acquisition of this radar set (would appreciate if you could plz post link for further reading) but it seems a robust system
https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=172043&x=

it is the same radar which used by Italian airforce in their ATR-72MP

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

not sure about BD's acquisition of this radar set (would appreciate if you could plz post link for further reading) but it seems a robust system
https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=172043&x=

it is the same radar which used by Italian airforce in their ATR-72MP

Bangladesh: http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/seaspray-500e-bangladesh

 

[Falcon26]

not sure about BD's acquisition of this radar set (would appreciate if you could plz post link for further reading) but it seems a robust system
https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=172043&x=

it is the same radar which used by Italian airforce in their ATR-72MP

There's an excellent new post by Quwa today

http://quwa.org/2017/09/14/bangladesh-selects-leonardo-seaspray-aesa-radar-mpa/

 

[HRK]

@gambit can you plz explain technical information in this link
https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=172043&x=

 

[Tank131]

Turkey also used ATR-72 as a ASW/MPA (but i believe they use ATR-72 600 vs PN's 500). That being said, i would encourage PN to look at the Y-8GX6 (Y-8Q) which has the largest MAD of any ASW/MPA and has the capability to carry ~8 torpedoes or 8 AShM missiles. By itself it could overwhelm a ships anti-missile defense.

 

[khanasifm]

I think pn has 6 or 7 fokers in the fleet assuming atr will replace one fo one or it can be less as well as atr has better availability rate vs older 60s fokers

Per recent news 2 atr are being converted to asw/asub warefare paltform But order is for 2 plus 2 in future so pn will eventually buy 4 plus what ever is the req for transport if pn goes one for one then 2/3 for transport

 

[The-Hack]

New ATR-72 Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) for the Pakistan Navy

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well a great Initiative to improve our capacity specially after few P3 Orions were damaged in past the addition 2-3 ATR to do the recon work and few Torpedoes loaded re-equips our Navy

Origional Capcity : 10 P3 Orions

Damaged planes due to Terrorist (3 units lost)

Recovered Capacity : 7 P3 Orions + 3 ATR (Equiped with Senors and Torpedoes)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think if we are trying to replace the Fokker , with alternative down the line the Bombardier's Marine platform is a wonderful option


C4ISR Bombardier (Canadian Company)
Has an ideal modern platform for marine

In today’s world, gaining vital information for military, government and civil organizations is critical. The unique combination of our aircraft’s performance features and spacious interiors, enable us to provide superior special mission platforms that make gathering intelligence around the world possible. From aerial surveillance over land and sea to battlefield communications management, or command and control of friendly forces in theater, we have the specialized solution to meet your challenge.

Mean while Sword Fish , platform from Sweden is a great alternative for P3 Orion

 

[volatile]

What is this express delivery ?

 

[Inception-06]

What is this express delivery ?

express means fast service!

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Turkey also used ATR-72 as a ASW/MPA (but i believe they use ATR-72 600 vs PN's 500). That being said, i would encourage PN to look at the Y-8GX6 (Y-8Q) which has the largest MAD of any ASW/MPA and has the capability to carry ~8 torpedoes or 8 AShM missiles. By itself it could overwhelm a ships anti-missile defense.

If my memory serves me correctly Pakistan Navy is upgrading the ATR72-500 to ATR72-600.
The difference is in the Avionics and Engines most of the flight characteristics is the same.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/ras-...-72-conversion-to-maritime-patrol-asw.438708/

 

[TOPGUN]

I think if we are trying to replace the Fokker , with alternative down the line the Bombardier's Marine platform is a wonderful option


C4ISR Bombardier (Canadian Company)
Has an ideal modern platform for marine

In today’s world, gaining vital information for military, government and civil organizations is critical. The unique combination of our aircraft’s performance features and spacious interiors, enable us to provide superior special mission platforms that make gathering intelligence around the world possible. From aerial surveillance over land and sea to battlefield communications management, or command and control of friendly forces in theater, we have the specialized solution to meet your challenge.

Mean while Sword Fish , platform from Sweden is a great alternative for P3 Orion

Agreed great platform however, you guys need to understand that the PN P-3's aren't going anywhere for a very long time they have been upgraded as well.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Brazilian company also sells some Options
Easy to see if Pakistan was serious we could buildup a new 10 Unit Anti Submarine / Electronic Jammers with combinatin of some local research and development


Embraer ERJ 140 (18 Million Price Tag)

Embraer ERJ 145 ($20 Millin Price Tag)

Embraer Legacy 600 ($ 25 million)

Embraer 190 (A bigger platform 32 Million price Tag)