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Islamic society is the pure form of socialism.

But communism is man-made organism, and irrational conduct.

1. sure, islam was early socialism, but the point is what is your interpretation of islam.

2. islam, technically, still has money system, but money must be abolished.
 
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Either both of them should come under the law or neither should.

Precisely my point.

Can't apply "Freedom of speech" selectively.

Satire is a genre of literature, and sometimes graphic and performing arts, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, corporations, government or society itself, into improvement.

So making cartoons and ridiculing a revered religious personality improves the society?

Enlighten me please.
 
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1. sure, islam was early socialism, but the point is what is your interpretation of islam.

2. islam, technically, still has money system, but money must be abolished.

Islam was the revolution of oppressed. Muslims are still the oppressed ones. So true form of socialism is yet to come. Who said that socialism must be based on atheism and feminism?

Money is intermediary tool to simplify trade. Communism had money system, too. In fact, communism turned out to be mass enslavement of the folk, killed them slowly.
 
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Precisely my point.

Can't apply "Freedom of speech" selectively.



So making cartoons and ridiculing a revered religious personality improves the society?

Enlighten me please.

Satirising a religious figure or figures in the free press is perfectly acceptable in a secular, free and democratic country and society. If it upsets the adherents of the religion so satirised, hard luck.

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Satirising a religious figure or figures in the free press is perfectly acceptable in a secular, free and democratic country and society. If it upsets the adherents of the religion so satirised, hard luck.

But talking against Jews and Armenians is a crime in secular France. How hypocrite French men are!!!

France should accept Muslim masses with French citizenship as part of the society. For years France turned its back to Muslim miseries both outside their country and within their community. Discrimination should end NOW. For peace and prosperity.
 
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everything is good if it stay's with in limits , even Freedom ...

The only limits on the freedom of expression are that what is expressed is not defamatory: that is what is spoken is not slanderous and what is written is not libellous.

But talking against Jews and Armenians is a crime in secular France. How hypocrite French men are!!!

France should accept Muslim masses with French citizenship as part of the society. For years France turned its back to Muslim miseries both outside their country and within their community. Discrimination should end NOW. For peace and prosperity.

I don't know about France, but as far as I am concerned in my own country, religious figures are fair game to be satirised.
 
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So making cartoons and ridiculing a revered religious personality improves the society?

Enlighten me please.
what revered religious personality, 'caliph' al baghdadi ? :omghaha:

this was their last tweet:
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but you're probably referring to prophet muhammed, the point in satirizing him is to shine a spotlight on islamic extremism/terrorism. Did you miss all the rest of their content, they're always taking the piss on all religions, including Christianity, on the pope
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Jesus:
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Jews/Israel
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What Is the Purpose of Satire?
The overall purpose of satire is usually to make some kind of moral or political change in society through the use of critical humor. A satirist will choose a subject or person with whom he finds faults and use humor to make those faults obvious. In theory, many satirists hope that the humor will have a corrective effect, almost like a punishment for bad behavior, ultimately leading people to change the way they behave and discouraging others from behaving the same way in the future.

Since the overall purpose of satire is generally to point out the faults in people, satirists often rely on exaggeration to make a point. For example, a politician who favors heavy taxation might be depicted as a pig stealing people’s food from their plates. This sort of exaggeration shows the fault in question and puts a critical spin on it. People often remember and enjoy the satire because it’s funny and entertaining, but if it’s handled correctly, the message should ideally stick with them much longer than the initial entertainment element.

The terms "satire" and "parody" are often confused, but the purpose of satire makes it generally very different from parody. When people do a parody of something, they may rely on many of the same techniques that a satirist would use, including exaggeration, but their primary purpose is to make people laugh, and if the author doesn’t really care if there is a real political effect or not. Sometimes the lines between satire and parody can be blurred for a lot of different reasons. Some parodies end up working as brilliant satires in terms of effect, while some satires might miss the mark completely and have no more impact than a parody.

Since many artists consider the purpose of satire to be an important thing for society, satires have been created for nearly every artistic medium in existence. For example, a horror movie with a humorous slant, showing teenagers misbehaving and being chased by some kind of monster, can be seen as a kind of satire urging better behavior in the youth of society. A more classical example of satire is the political cartoon, which allows the satirist to explore the political issues of the day through the use of humorous imagery. Sketch comedy television shows like "Saturday Night Live" and American talk show hosts like Conan O’Brien and Jon Stewart often mix parody and satire at different times, with some moments more dedicated to pure humor while others aim to change public opinion or point out flaws in society.
 
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what revered religious personality, 'caliph' al baghdadi ? :omghaha:

this was their last tweet:
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but you're probably referring to prophet muhammed, the point in satirizing him is to shine a spotlight on islamic extremism/terrorism. Did you miss all the rest of their content, they're always taking the piss on all religions, including Christianity, on the pope

I don't care what they do with their own religion as it is their own matter, not mine to butt into.

They can make a dick on this ISIS guy's face for all I care.

But can't put all this into the same bracket as making cartoons on Prophet PBUH.

And please spare me the definitions of satire. You aren't going anywhere with that logic.
 
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* May I please request that rather than taking pot-shots at each other, can we simply unite in saying that killing someone for expressing an opinion, one that is mainly harmless is totally and utterly unacceptable in a modern, enlightened world. As Muslims we love our beloved prophet Mohammad (PBUH).

But let me tell you that the Prophet never condoned vengeance and violence, According to a tradition recorded in the Sahih of Imam Muslim, when the Prophet’s opponents greatly increased their persecution, his Companions asked him to curse them. At this the Prophet replied, “I have not been sent to lay a curse upon men but to be a blessing to them.” His opponents continued to treat him and his Companions unjustly and cruelly, but he always prayed for them.

Once he was so badly stoned by his enemies that the blood began to spurt from all over his body. This happened when he went to Ta’if, where the Hijaz aristocracy used to while away their summer days. When he attempted to call them to Islam, instead of listening to his words of wisdom, they set the street urchins upon him, who kept chasing him till nightfall. Even at that point, when he was utterly exhausted and bleeding from head to foot, all he said was, “O my Lord, guide my people along the true path, as they are ignorant of the truth.”

His heart was filled with intense love for all human kind irrespective of caste, creed, or colour. Once he advised his Companions to regard all people as their brothers and sisters. He added, “You are all Adam’s offspring and Adam was born of clay.”

^ This is the message we should all live by, not retribution.

Ahmed Merabet, a Muslim, French Policeman, the first victim of #CharlieHebdo attack

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un
 
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And here ladies and gentlemen we have a perfect example of liberal extremism.

Thank you sir.

Have a good day in your satirical world.

Maybe I'll make a satire about your mum and dad having incest with their brothers and sisters. Perfectly acceptable in a 'liberal, open minded society' as yours eh?

I am sure liberal will watch it as entertainment ... so much for a fantasy ...
here is some Quote from a Brilliant man ...Hazraat Omar R.A

The wisest man is he who can account for his actions.
Don’t forget your own self while preaching to others.
When you see that any scholar loves the world, then his scholarship is in doubt.

Ahmed Merabet, a Muslim, French Policeman, the first victim of #CharlieHebdo attack


now let me hear from those who want kill all Muslims and deport them from EU and west , A Muslim Police officer Sacrifices his life to save others ... Salute to him may he Rest in Peace
 
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* May I please request that rather than taking pot-shots at each other, can we simply unite in saying that killing someone for expressing an opinion, one that is mainly harmless is totally and utterly unacceptable in a modern, enlightened world. As Muslims we love our beloved prophet Mohammad (PBUH).

And we should respect each other's opinions and religious values.

Both sides have to understand the issue.

This incident has been condemned by me multiple times over here and on my FB. But the cartoonists and all these folks also need to understand the sentiments on this side.

It's like saying, main nhn manta, kar lo jo karna hai.
 
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