Assassination Attempt on Imran Khan: One Killed, Multiple Injuried Including Imran Khan - 11/22

[SIPRA]

If anything that the recent 6 months performance has shown is that pak army is as outdated as any other institution like judiciary parliament or beaurocracy.

They are not outdated. They are characterless criminals and thugs. That is the fundamental problem.

 

[Clutch]

 

[N.Siddiqui]

No FIR's registered by the Police against the persons accused by the IK in the presser so far.

A fake decoy was arrested by the police with the recorded message to fool the public.

This clearly shows only the powerful mafia is behind this assassination attempt, as mentioned by him. So now PDM has 14 parties including the behind the scene Army+ISI, against the one man supported by people.

Not registering the FIR is a damning indictment against the Mafia.

 

[truthseeker2010]

They are not outdated. They are characterless criminals and thugs. That is the fundamental problem.

That is GHQ or some generals according to some army fanz.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

ڈی جی آئی ایس پی آر صاحب۔ فوج کی وردی پہن لینے سے کوئی محب وطن نہیں ہوجاتا​

Asad Umar reply to DG ISPR

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan army needs reforms- yes.

But it doesn’t need a full reset. We still need to be a security state given the neighborhood. We still need to have a strong army. But we do need to figure out a way to stop the army from interfering in domestic politics. I don’t know -‘maybe take a page out of Israel- who are also a security state but their establishment doesn’t interfere in domestic politics.

But we also need to fix our justice system which is broken. Our bureaucracy which is incompetent. Our politicians who are corrupt. Our religious leaders who are jaahil. Our political economy which is self-defeating.

Blaming all of the above on army is a red herring.

The Pakistani army needs only one thing. It needs to move back to where it really belongs. That is the baracks.

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This guy Bacha Khan knew it all long ago. He knew these three evils inside out.

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistan PM Sharif Offers to Quit If Implicated in Khan Shooting

Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif offered to resign if there was any evidence implicating him or his interior minister in the shooting which injured his immediate predecessor Imran Khan.

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Pakistan PM Sharif Offers to Quit If Implicated in Khan Shooting​

• Sharif requests Pakistan’s Chief Justice to probe the incident
• Khan had blamed the PM and his colleagues for the shooting

mran Khan addresses the media at a hospital in Lahore, a day after the assassination attempt.
Photographer: Arif Ali/AFP/Getty Images
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Kamran Haider
November 6, 2022 at 1:05 AM PST

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Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif offered to resign if there was any evidence implicating him or his interior minister in the shooting which injured his immediate predecessor Imran Khan.
Sharif said in a press conference in Lahore Saturday that he would lose the right to continue as the nation’s Prime Minister if any evidence against him is uncovered. Khan had blamed Sharif, Pakistan’s interior minister Rana Sanaullah, and prominent generals for the shooting that left him with an injured leg on Thursday while leading a march toward the capital Islamabad to demand an early national election that isn’t due until later next year.

“I request the Chief Justice of Pakistan to constitute a full court commission for the best interest of the nation, sake of justice, and to end this mess,” said Sharif. “If the Supreme court remains quiet after this, then it will be a great damage to this country.”

The government formed a panel of legal and constitutional experts to investigate the claims and will take action against Khan and his colleagues if those are not true, according to a statement from Sharif’s office.
— With assistance by Anup Roy

 

[Goenitz]

For our dissidents , and perhaps awfully right in this one point @Signalian @SQ8 @Maarkhoor @VCheng
'All Pak institutes are dysfunctional which cannot hold Pak integrity and unity. So, Army should hold Pak until then even by lethal force if it may be until those institutes get revival'

@RescueRanger @The Accountant @SIPRA @Areesh @HRK @ghazi52 @Acetic Acid @PakSword @PDF @Path-Finder @IceCold @Ghazwa-e-Hind

I think IK agree and we should all agree on this point besides security, as Army has been exercising too much control on judiciary, police, diplomats, bureaucracy, etc. These orgs are filled with incompetent people as a result. Leaving Pak on this selfish, incompetent, conformist, short-visioned lot is unwise.

So there must be a change/reverse role but gradually. The parents (army) must give in to children (public) as they are fully grown-up.

A swift civilian control is no option. See Iraq or Syria or Libya etc. When the main pillar was gone, nobody could fill the vacuum.

 

[VCheng]

until those institutes get revival

LOL. The Army has destroyed every institution in order to keep its hold on power. It simply can not, and will not, allow any competitors to arise that could challenge its supremacy. I have said this many times before: Pakistan's Army holds it together, and it also ensures that no one else can do so.

 

[Fasbre2]

The Arya idiot has no stand, he simply tweets controversial statements to get a reaction. He has no idea what he is saying and flip flops like a prostitute..

For our dissidents , and perhaps awfully right in this one point @Signalian @SQ8 @Maarkhoor @VCheng
'All Pak institutes are dysfunctional which cannot hold Pak integrity and unity. So, Army should hold Pak until then even by lethal force if it may be until those institutes get revival'

@RescueRanger @The Accountant @SIPRA @Areesh @HRK @ghazi52 @Acetic Acid @PakSword @PDF @Path-Finder @IceCold @Ghazwa-e-Hind

I think IK agree and we should all agree on this point besides security, as Army has been exercising too much control on judiciary, police, diplomats, bureaucracy, etc. These orgs are filled with incompetent people as a result. Leaving Pak on this selfish, incompetent, conformist, short-visioned lot is unwise.

So there must be a change/reverse role but gradually. The parents (army) must give in to children (public) as they are fully grown-up.

A swift civilian control is no option. See Iraq or Syria or Libya etc. When the main pillar was gone, nobody could fill the vacuum.

You cannot compare Pak to these middle eastern countries. They had dictators in power overtly, in pak civilians were in power but were not allowed to govern by military, who were dictators covertly. We were led to believe army were neutral which they never were. The rot started from Ayub Khan era..
US military training programs did more damage than good, officer corps were fully compromised as a result.. returning officers became foreign moles.. and modeled their lavish whisky drinking lifestyles based on what they were exposed to during their foreign ‘training’ trips.
Rot further exasperated during Musharraf time by the purging of any officers with a leaning towards religion and devotion to Islam on instructions of US and as a pre-requisite to not ‘being bombed to the stone ages’..

 

[Goenitz]

Pakistan's Army holds it together, and it also ensures that no one else can do so.

Ok.

You cannot compare Pak to these middle eastern countries. They had dictators in power overtly, in pak civilians were in power but were not allowed to govern by military, who were dictators covertly. We were led to believe army were neutral which they never were. The rot started from Ayub Khan era...

We can. Pak situation is very similar. Neither judiciary nor politicians nor police can hold Pak or law and order like those in dictator's example.

 

[SIPRA]

For our dissidents , and perhaps awfully right in this one point
'All Pak institutes are dysfunctional which cannot hold Pak integrity and unity. So, Army should hold Pak until then even by lethal force if it may be until those institutes get revival'

I think IK agree and we should all agree on this point besides security, as Army has been exercising too much control on judiciary, police, diplomats, bureaucracy, etc. These orgs are filled with incompetent people as a result. Leaving Pak on this selfish, incompetent, conformist, short-visioned lot is unwise.

So there must be a change/reverse role but gradually. The parents (army) must give in to children (public) as they are fully grown-up.

A swift civilian control is no option. See Iraq or Syria or Libya etc. When the main pillar was gone, nobody could fill the vacuum.

Pakistan is on an autopilot mode. Army, as an institution, has proven to be criminal organization, under leadership of Mir Bajwa & Co. Under the circumstances, our analysis and propositions hold not much ground. Things will happen under their own natural mechanics. How they end, no one can predict.

 

[Menace2Society]

New assassination plan & attempt on Imran Khan within the same week!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588648932548435970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588648934003859456

The plan above is already under immediate action and they are trying to penetrate SKH

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588993925884575744

@Ghazwa-e-Hind Please add this latest development into your main post, thanks! We need maximum people to be aware of the risk level Khan is under!

But I want to know what Pakistani would agree to do this?

So long as the are cracked within a bowl and not thrown about the entire room.


There are internal politics within the Army that can create enough pressure to have the COAS resign through a majority of the corps commanders expressing loss of confidence in command publicly - but anything beyond that is dangerous precedent.

The army should self audit and remove itself of any corrupt elements just like it did after finding traitors during TTP war.

I don't understand the logic, a more prosperous country under IK for lets say 10 years would mean a bigger defense budget. Its win win. Short term thinking

 

[Sal12]

So long as the are cracked within a bowl and not thrown about the entire room.


There are internal politics within the Army that can create enough pressure to have the COAS resign through a majority of the corps commanders expressing loss of confidence in command publicly - but anything beyond that is dangerous precedent.

Then why Bajwa has not resigned yet if corps commander can pressurize him to resign. I give you the answer. These corps commanders themselves are appointed by Bajwa himself and they all are loyal to Bajwa.

No matter how many times you say but break in the chain of command and break in military discipline is all Pak needs. This chain of command has given Pak nothing but destruction since 47. How long COASs using the same chain of command to bring havoc in Pak or you are waiting for the balkanization of Pak to break this f*cking chain of command.

There was also a chain of command and military discipline in Yazid army who martyred Hussain R.A but sure they all are in hell.

 

[Mugen]

March is resuming again.

Some were saying that he is a coward because he didn't announce it sooner, I think we tend underestimate IK.