Assam violence death toll rises to 21, shoot-at-sight order issued

[Joe Shearer]

No where did I quote a single source from RSS sources. So its is irrelevant as to what they teach in RSS shakhas. But whatever they teach, its always better than the trash they disseminate in the madarsahs.

So let's have it straight from the horse's mouth: are you an RSS member?

That is out-dated logic people use - if my aunty had a mush he would have been an uncle.

Yes, our ancestors remained unconquered - maybe not physically, but definitely spiritually. We may have been physically subjugated. That was temporary, but never mentally. We dont bow before Arabia five times a day. Enough said. Not that I have a problem with it, but when some one comes and tries to whitewash everything and portrays that fateful era as some kind of God's gift to India, then I do have a problem.

But that's the point that he is making.

If Muslim rule was as omnipotent as both Muslim and Hindu extremists make it out to be, there should not have been any Hindu survivors.

It is risible that both Muslim and Hindu extremists are agreed on their views.

You in some surprise, surprise in the coming years.

The "bigots" as you like to classify them (a classic case of everything looking yellow through jaundiced eyes) and politically right wing (those who dont agree with the tactics of buf00ns like Sri Ram Sene, but equally with the likes of pseudo-secularists who think the Hindus owe the Muslims and Christians their weight in blood, just because they are minorities) as I would call them are clearly on the rise and this kind of denialism about their existence or growth only works in their favor.

GOOD for you, little bigot. I shall wait patiently for this magic to work. I am 62. Any chances of seeing it soon? What does your jyotishi say?

 

[Hello_10]

Speaking to reporters at the relief camp at the Kokrajhar Commerce College after meeting refugees, Singh said "I share your grief and all of us are with you in this hour of your suffering. We are all Indians and we must remain united"

Assam riots a blot on the nation; Rs 300 cr for survivors: PM

Its look like Mr Manmohan Singh is soon going to give Indian Passport to all those who will cross border and come to India illegally?

Mr Manmohan Singh would be clearly told that if even one illegal infiltrator to India will get Indian citizenship in his knowingly then it will come on the expanse of his own Indian passport and then he along with Sonia/Rahul will be kicked from India straightaway

 

[Vinod2070]

The RSS never stated that there is an Aryan-Dravidian divide, nor the contrary, as far as I know.

There IS no divide in racial terms. Genetic analysis has clearly established that. So much of the protests that emanate from Tamil quarters about this supposed internal colonization of the south by the north is unnecessary. It is clear that such a thing never happened.

On the other hand, there are two distinct language groups, out of the three that are to be seen commonly in India, which belong to what is still being called Aryan and Dravidian. This distinction in linguistic terms is still valid.

Sir, I will defer to you on much of this. Yes, there is no racial division and yes Sangh clearly doesn't believe in any such divide.

The point being?

Simply that even the "Dravidian languages" share a lot in terms of heritage with the other Indian languages. This artificial "divide" created by the colonialists and lapped up by some for their own petty reasons clearly doesn't exist in the real sense now.

 

[Android]

I am 62.

did you participated in any indo pak wars

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir, I will defer to you on much of this. Yes, there is no racial division and yes Sangh clearly doesn't believe in any such divide.



Simply that even the "Dravidian languages" share a lot in terms of heritage with the other Indian languages. This artificial "divide" created by the colonialists and lapped up by some for their own petty reasons clearly doesn't exist in the real sense now.

That is the only way in which linguists can distinguish between the Dravidian languages and others.

Perhaps you missed the lunatic posts of the Bangladeshi member, who saw Bangladesh as Dravidian, and went on to conclusions about Love Jihad. My post was to point out to him the supreme irony of the Love Jihad having been promoted by a Dravidian lot, the Malayalam newspapers.

 

[Vinod2070]

Yes, our ancestors remained unconquered - maybe not physically, but definitely spiritually. We may have been physically subjugated. That was temporary, but never mentally. We dont bow before Arabia five times a day. Enough said. Not that I have a problem with it, but when some one comes and tries to whitewash everything and portrays that fateful era as some kind of God's gift to India, then I do have a problem.

One would have thought that this is so obvious. I have been expressing exactly the same sentiments for years.

A change of faith doesn't change one's history and identity though it may make some become confused about them. The result is a confusion that we can see in our neighborhood where people seek heroes among the worst humanity has ever produced.

Even the people from whom the barbaric invaders came, are sometime ashamed of them, but for those whose ancestors were at the receiving end, they are the heroes!

One's faith is a personal matter. One's loyalties to the country should have nothing to do with that.

One interesting thing is that some people give example of Greeks and West etc. to say that conversion doesn't change their history. They are actually counter examples of how they themselves have behaved and why it was and remains so wrong.

Only they fail to see it.

 

[Bhairava]

So let's have it straight from the horse's mouth: are you an RSS member?

How does that matter ? As long as the sources I give are not from RSS, it does not matter who I am personally.

But that's the point that he is making.

If Muslim rule was as omnipotent as both Muslim and Hindu extremists make it out to be, there should not have been any Hindu survivors.

It is risible that both Muslim and Hindu extremists are agreed on their views.

We are not making same points -

His point : "If the Muslim rulers had tried all would have been Muslims"

My point : They tried their ***** off. But were not sucessful due to various factors.

BTW did you just call The_Showstopper a Muslim extremist ?

GOOD for you, little bigot. I shall wait patiently for this magic to work. I am 62. Any chances of seeing it soon? What does your jyotishi say?

Definition of bigot : : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

That definition would pretty much include you..

 

[harpoon]

Nobody takes this "Sagarika Ghosh" seriously.

Her only claim to fame is being the wife of Rajdeep Sardesai. She is the biggest idiot on TV and I have stopped watching IBN because of both their pathetic antics.

Correct me if I am wrong, but is it she who invented the word 'Internet Hindus'.

 

[Vinod2070]

Correct me if I am wrong, but is it she who invented the word 'Internet Hindus'.

Even if the buffoon did, we are proud to be Hindus.

In our lives offline and online.

 

[bronxbull]

The RSS never stated that there is an Aryan-Dravidian divide, nor the contrary, as far as I know.

There IS no divide in racial terms. Genetic analysis has clearly established that. So much of the protests that emanate from Tamil quarters about this supposed internal colonization of the south by the north is unnecessary. It is clear that such a thing never happened.

On the other hand, there are two distinct language groups, out of the three that are to be seen commonly in India, which belong to what is still being called Aryan and Dravidian. This distinction in linguistic terms is still valid.



The point being?

Even linguitsically it is not too different.

Well Irish and Spanish are way different languages, but not all that different,when compared to chinese/korean.

 

[harpoon]

Even if the buffoon did, we are proud to be Hindus.

In our lives offline and online.

Its not about being Hindus or not, it shows the bigot hiding behind the facade of a liberal who is extremely intolerant to any views other that hers.

 

[bronxbull]

So let's have it straight from the horse's mouth: are you an RSS member?




But that's the point that he is making.

If Muslim rule was as omnipotent as both Muslim and Hindu extremists make it out to be, there should not have been any Hindu survivors.

It is risible that both Muslim and Hindu extremists are agreed on their views.



GOOD for you, little bigot. I shall wait patiently for this magic to work. I am 62. Any chances of seeing it soon? What does your jyotishi say?

It is all politics Mr.Shearer,

To win a war all you need is force.To stay put and govern,you need to be much more tactically astute and politically aware.

The Mughals stayed put and made themselves flexible to govern us but always had an Islamist agenda as they know that the Hindus are too cunning to be outwitted just like that.

Thats why they used the sufis to stem the anger of the local populace and were keen to kill/convert the upper castes.

They infused politics into religion and mixed it and you cannot continue to take a neutral stand after all this knowledge or behave like the JNU jholawalas who betray their intuitions to write thesis.

 

[Joe Shearer]

did you participated in any indo pak wars

Not as a combatant. I passed the written exams and was found medically unfit due to bad eyesight during the SSB process.

However, later during my professional career, I was deeply involved in working for defence.

Its look like Mr Manmohan Singh is soon going to give Indian Passport to all those who will cross border and come to India illegally?

Mr Manmohan Singh would be clearly told that if even one illegal infiltrator to India will get Indian citizenship in his knowingly then it will come on the expanse of his own Indian passport and then he along with Sonia/Rahul will be kicked from India straightaway

Considering that your whole life story seems to have been an arduous struggle to give up your own Indian passport, why does it matter to you who gets it or who doesn't?

How does that matter ? As long as the sources I give are not from RSS, it does not matter who I am personally.



We are not making same points -

His point : "If the Muslim rulers had tried all would have been Muslims"

My point : They tried their ***** off. But were not sucessful due to various factors.

BTW did you just call The_Showstopper a Muslim extremist ?



Definition of bigot : : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

That definition would pretty much include you..

Funny, isn't it, to you opposing bigotry, and the tyranny of superstition, and standing for science, modernization and rational values, is the same as bigotry?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Even linguitsically it is not too different.

Well Irish and Spanish are way different languages, but not all that different,when compared to chinese/korean.

I'm not sure we are on the same page.

Marathi and Bengali are different. They are also each of them different from, say, Tamil or Telugu. But the differences between Marathi and Bengali are smaller than the differences between Marathi and Tamil, or Marathi and Telugu. And the differences between Tamil and Telugu are lesser than the differences between Marathi and Telugu. The two pairs belong to different language groups. Just as Irish and Spanish are both Indo-European languages. However, you may be aware that Chinese and Korean are NOT related.

 

[bronxbull]

To be honest differences between Marathi and Telugu are lesser than the differences between Tamil & Telugu.

And in the border areas,languages converge in general.

I see them all not too different.