Assam Run Over By Bangladeshis | The Debate With Arnab Goswami.

[Mage]

I visit their slum to buy cigarettes & stuff they enchroached a pwd open ground near our office, their ladies wear sarees & they speak Hindi just like Biharis I didn't even knew they are Bangladeshi until someone told me about it.
They hold valid Voter id & aadhaar our corrupt politicians just playing dirty game to beg some votes.

If what you said is true then how you're gonna deport them? They don't look different, don't speak different and have voter and aadhar cards. How it might be possible to deport 50-60 millions of them is beyond me. Unless you go and start murdering them and burning the places where you suspect they may live.

 

[RowdyRathore]

If what you said is true then how you're gonna deport them? They don't look different, don't speak different and have voter and aadhar cards. How it might be possible to deport 50-60 millions of them is beyond me. Unless you go and start murdering them and burning the places where you suspect they may live.

50-60? i believe 10 mil came during war rest of them coming every day thru human traffickers. estimated no. is 20 mil.
it's not possible now to kick out they're absorbed into us
but If our govt. take it serious than they can stop further infiltration happening everyday.

Even if I agree with you, along with similar look and language, most of them also have various Indian document to prove their citizenship of India due to alleged 'vote bank politics'.Then how you will differentiate illegal Bangladeshi from genuine Indian?You can't randomly pick up a muslim person and attempt to deport him.Genuine Indian may suffer on a large scale.Plus it will create a storm in India and Bangladesh.My suggestion for India will be to finish the border fencing,increase border patrolling, negotiate with Bangladesh to exchange the proven illegal Bangladeshi with illegal Indian in Bangladesh and stop doing dirty politics and fanning communal hatred, media shouting and increasing blood sugar as a result.This type of hatred and tension without doing anything concrete and positive is not doing any good for Indian.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

it's not possible to differentiate they look same & speak same language, while a fraction of those stayed in Assam,
These people come to India just to back their livelihood.

Even if I agree with you, along with similar look and language, most of them also have various Indian document to prove their citizenship of India due to alleged 'vote bank politics'.Then how you will differentiate illegal Bangladeshi from genuine Indian?You can't randomly pick up a muslim person and attempt to deport him.Genuine Indian may suffer on a large scale.Plus it will create a storm in India and Bangladesh.My suggestion for India will be to finish the border fencing,increase border patrolling, negotiate with Bangladesh to exchange the proven illegal Bangladeshi with illegal Indian in Bangladesh and stop doing dirty politics and fanning communal hatred, media shouting and increasing blood sugar as a result.This type of hatred and tension without doing anything concrete and positive is not doing any good for Indian.

 

[RowdyRathore]

My suggestion for India will be to finish the border fencing,increase border patrolling, negotiate with Bangladesh to exchange the proven illegal Bangladeshi with illegal Indian

our borders with BD isn't a simple as we have with Pakistan,
There are dense villages were border lies just next to other house/street. though enclaves & conclaves have been settled with BD.

 

[911]

Send them back into Bangladesh illegally, problem solved.

 

[Mage]

50-60? i believe 10 mil came during war rest of them coming every day thru human traffickers. estimated no. is 20 mil.
it's not possible now to kick out they're absorbed into us
but If our govt. take it serious than they can stop further infiltration happening everyday.

People here claim that the government figure of 20 million is too low. The actual number is like 50-60 million.

Your govt and our govt as well should take actions to stop further infiltration. Build a wall in your border with us of you find it necessary. I don't think our Gov't will object to it unless you guys want us to pay for it.

Send them back into Bangladesh illegally, problem solved.

How?

 

[Joe Shearer]

I said it first in the context of Kashmir. Which I am aware you will fight me on, since we share very different views of the people native to that land.

Here I speak about illegals from Bangladesh swarming into West Bengal, Bihar, Jharkhand, and Assam.

They need to be rounded up and returned.

I do not understand the legitimising bit at all.

They are undesirables. They made their bed a long time ago. We need to help teach them how to sleep in it.

Not cuddle up under the sheets at our feet and then move higher ....

Cheers, Doc

There I agree, within limits. Rounding up and deporting cannot apply to children born on Indian soil, not according to the Indian constitution. And since the CRPF will find it hard to nurse a three month old baby, the mother has to stay on as well. Unless we encourage her to earn a living prostituting herself, so must the father.

Let's keep this from becoming a replay of Trump's election campaign.

 

[RowdyRathore]

People here claim that the government figure of 20 million is too low. The actual number is like 50-60 million.

Your govt and our govt as well should take actions to stop further infiltration. Build a wall in your border with us of you find it necessary. I don't think our Gov't will object to it unless you guys want us to pay for it.


How?

are you B'desi?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Afghanistan have been a battle ground between various stake holders which resulted fleeing of Afghanis to your borders areas and town many of them moved into your cities.
But situation here in India BD border is totally different, daily 5000 illegal infiltrators sneaking into India just to make their living Thanks to BD increasing population & extreme poverty.
As Indian middle class getting busy these BD maids getting work in our house for dishwashing, etc. as I've already discussed this stuff.
I don't have any hate for BDeshis or Muslims in general we do have roughly same Muslims population as in your country.
But India is already a densely population & adding an Australia every year, would you bear the amount of illegal infiltrators sneaking into your jam packed cities?
They now have became part of our country, It'll need a hardline political will & lot of shame to hunt all the illegal infiltrators & kick them out. I don't believe any political party would ever do so.


Thank you, I'm here to gain some knowledge from other people, tell me how I'm a standard bhakt (where i cursed didi & cong.) but i admit infiltration is still happening on the same scale.
you said many things in short i couldn't get. anyways peace.

I said 'If'. If you aren't one, someone who hates those of other religions, and encourages violence against them, I retract my words.

it's not possible to differentiate they look same & speak same language, while a fraction of those stayed in Assam,
These people come to India just to back their livelihood which they find in Indian cities.

They don't, actually.

There's a world of difference between us East Bengalis/Bangladeshis and Assamese or West Bengali Muslims or Hindus.

I visit their slum to buy cigarettes & stuff they enchroached a pwd open ground near our office, their ladies wear sarees & they speak Hindi just like Biharis I didn't even knew they are Bangladeshi until someone told me about it.
They hold valid Voter id & aadhaar our corrupt politicians just playing dirty game to beg some votes.

Don't faint, but have you thought of the possibility that they might be West Bengali Muslims? You wouldn't know unless you knew enough Bangla to distinguish accents. I do know, and I know that there are Bangladeshis in India.

50-60? i believe 10 mil came during war rest of them coming every day thru human traffickers. estimated no. is 20 mil.
it's not possible now to kick out they're absorbed into us
but If our govt. take it serious than they can stop further infiltration happening everyday.

Are you joking? I was there, mister. EVERY ONE OF THEM RETURNED. That was the most remarkable part of the period after Liberation and a phenomenon remarked upon globally.

As for the balance, don't tell me 10 million Bangladeshis walked right through the BSF.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

our borders with BD isn't a simple as we have with Pakistan,
There are dense villages were border lies just next to other house/street. though enclaves & conclaves have been settled with BD.

Double fencing with barbed wire in middle will help.Some village home will need to relocate.Riverine border will be needed to patrolling by BSF with lots of speed boat.Flood light and electrification will also help.If any country adopt these measure then 99 percent border crossing can be halt.Rest of the 1 percent will need to catch on mainland like other countries.But it seems, BJP politician are more interested to do politics over it then adopting any genuine measure which will solve this problem.I am sure, BJP will ask vote in the next election over same issue.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Double fencing with barbed wire in middle will help.Some village home will need to relocate.Riverine border will be needed to patrolling by BSF with lots of speed boat.Flood light and electrification will also help.If any country adopt these measure then 99 percent border crossing can be halt.Rest of the 1 percent will need to catch on mainland like other countries.But it seems, BJP politician are more interested to do politics over it then adopting any genuine measure which will solve this problem.I am sure, BJP will ask vote in the next election over same issue.

There are crossings, I am not denying it and neither are you.

The elephant in the room is that the entire surplus cattle population of India lands up in Bangladesh, and the smuggling across the border is a huge source of income for the border forces on guard on either side.

But it seems, BJP politician are more interested to do politics over it then adopting any genuine measure which will solve this problem.I am sure, BJP will ask vote in the next election over same issue.

What took you so long?

 

[RowdyRathore]

Double fencing with barbed wire in middle will help.Some village home will need to relocate.Riverine border will be needed to patrolling by BSF with lots of speed boat.Flood light and electrification will also help.If any country adopt these measure then 99 percent border crossing can be halt.Rest of the 1 percent will need to catch on mainland like other countries.But it seems, BJP politician are more interested to do politics over it then adopting any genuine measure which will solve this problem.I am sure, BJP will ask vote in the next election over same issue.

We are now feeling helpless, Yes BJP simply skipped many issues for the next general elections & fall short in providing jobs & economic growth. We have no choice left as Congress lacks leadership & their government level corruption is well know beside them no one else left to put our bucks on. I'd not cast my vote neither I'm fool to stand in long ques just to choose a Crook between bunch of crooks.

 

[Mage]

are you B'desi?

I am. I guess you're browsing from your phone that's why you can't see my flag.

 

[RowdyRathore]

I am. I guess you're browsing from your phone that's why you can't see my flag.

Yes I'm on phone but i figured out in your last post.

 

[Joe Shearer]

We are now feeling helpless, Yes BJP simply skipped many issues for the next general elections & fall short in providing jobs & economic growth. We have no choice left as Congress lacks leadership & their government level corruption is well know beside them no one else left to put our bucks on. I'd not cast my vote neither I'm fool to stand in long ques just to choose a Crook between bunch of crooks.

THE CONGRESS?
I'd rather cut my throat.

That's the problem; TINA.