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So you mean to tell me,it was like beneficial for him so he helped you,cux he hated saddam?i have heard stuff about gaddafi here in pakistan that he did not believe in sectarian violence.he was close friends with our then prime minister ZULFIQAR ALI BHUTTO.Because of his deplomacy pakistan got the nukes and He was also shia and then on the other side you say he killed a prominent shia figure in lebanon.i also read about that on the web.So is it like this,he was kinda sorta good bad guy?
I mean i read an interview of an iranian official,cant rememember his name but he said that all tyrants like gaddafi will meet their fate but then the article also says that iran and libya were close and long time allies.despite this statement.
I believe Ghadafi like all the leaders at the time 1960's could not be identified as a devoted person to religion but a nationalist and also had inclinations towards the east block. I think these types of nationalist leaders have several era in they life where they views change after getting used to absolute power. if at beginning he had nation and power both in mind in the order mentioned he would have power and nation if we want to be optimistic at the end of his reign in the named order. His views just like his era had dual personalities if not more. His type may have conflicting views and can not be judged by either.
Sadr was a threat an dgot eliminated by him and wouldn't matter if he was Shia or Sunni. Don't know the story behind Saddam but defenitely should have been a personal one more than an ideological one. Both type A personalities want to dominate Arab league and both did not have the capacities they hopep they have to dominate the region and its policies.

Ghaddafi, I would say he was more of a psycho that could be easily played with and bring out his good side for your goal just like what Iran did and west eventually did. But definitely I wouldn't say a good guy. Some say he changed Lybia while ruling it but think of all the wealth he dispensed and didn't go to the nation and think of how much Lybia would be developed if he was not a corrupt puppet of his own self and later the powers. He was ousted, because based on teh new theory of ME, ME should go into chaos for the desired change of the neo cons not that he was not submissive. A mad man like him which could be manipulated is the best that can happen to corrupt powers behind the scenes.
 
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he once said that he was not sunni nor was he shia, he was just a muslim.

his position as "imam of all muslim" was not to grab power but to unite muslims.

the western governments appointed the saudi kings as leaders of muslims but here is muammar gaddafi showing king abdullah his place...

(( Saudi King Abdullah vs Gaddafi (with English subtitles) - YouTube )) - first encounter

(( Colonel Gaddafi owns Saudi King Abdullah! - YouTube )) - second encounter

i remember once reading a advise from him to muslims going for hajj... went something like "go through the hajj knowing that land as a place that produced islam and not a place that is called saudia."

here is a recent thread by a pakistani member ( Libya With Gaddafi ) that has a easy-to-understand vid about the comfortable life that gaddafi's revolution brought to libya post-1969, a country that before that ( under nato puppet king idris ) was the poorest in the world.

and he was a true internationalist leader, a world leader, thinking up solutions for various issues including kashmir and korea and supporting liberation/socialist movements all over the world... a small indication of that can be found in this speech made by him in the uno general assembly in 2009 ( Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations. September 23, 2009 (Full) - YouTube )... can any western leader make such a speech?? :)

and this "arab league" speech of him from 2008 ( Gaddafi speech:'America hanged Saddam and we might be next! (with English) - YouTube ) where he mentions not only palestine issue but also calls for friendship of gcc with iran... some other reality-checks in the speech.
Yes those two videos make sense and he was a revolutionist with progressive ideas but this video shows his delusion with his power.
Besides if he was such a good person why sole ruler of Libya for so many years! Does it mean in his years of building Libya there was no one better and brighter and more Libya loving than him. This would be a contradiction which answers the question itself whether he was good for Libya or not. .
 
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For the Iranian members of this forum especially @Serpentine @haman10 and @SOHEIL
I would like to know how most iranian view Germans and Italians. And how you three personally view them.

Iranians love Germans. Because that we are so sucky at organization and time management, everyone thinks Germans as these no-nonsense, business people that are super organized and I think we feel a little bit jealous.

In political terms, we don't have any bad experience with them in our history. US, Britain, Russia, and France all have their negative impacts on our recent history, but nothing from German. Even in recent talks, Germany was respected in the media for not saying headline grabbing anti-Iranian shit.

When it comes to Italy, I think they have less of understanding of them, but they have this image in their heads that everyone in Europe is cold and emotionless, except the Italians, so sometimes they like to think of them as the Iranians of EU.
 
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guys tell me something about imam kamenai.
details and stuff
i've been find some stuff on him and iran and all i find is all from western sources and biased stuff.
any non biased stuff?no farsi plz with english sub titles
The Office of the Supreme Leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei

سائٹ اطلاع رسانی دفتر رہبر معظم انقلاب اسلامی حضرت آیت اللہ العظمی خامنہ ای دام ظلہ

AhlulBayt News Agenc ur - اہل بیت (ع) نیوز ایجنسی-ابنا

AhlulBayt News Agenc en - AhlulBayt News Agency - ABNA - Shia News

http://english.khamenei.ir

http://urdu.khamenei.ir

Also by searching on google you can find more Iranian [ DOT.ir ] sites in english and urdu.
 
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He's got a bulletproof BMW , that's something I know, other facts surrounding him are biased like yourself pointed out.
 
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Besides if he was such a good person why sole ruler of Libya for so many years! Does it mean in his years of building Libya there was no one better and brighter and more Libya loving than him. This would be a contradiction which answers the question itself whether he was good for Libya or not. .

wow 2 thanks,no replies -_-

some of your questions will be answered in this today's thread by taishang...

https://defence.pk/threads/libya-from-africa’s-wealthiest-democracy-to-us-nato-terror-haven.404139
 
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tell me about iran russia relations.after 79 rev imam khomeni enlisted russia to be a devil.the lesser one though,russia supported iraq in iran-iraq war,but after the fall of USSR what brought russia and iran together.
also i did read somewhere that iran and russia dont trust each other despite of co opeartion.
like i read that iran did not reveal it's nuclear developments to russia or soemthign like that
 
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There are similar threads about most countries in this forum,so I made one about Iran.
Ask your questions and I try to answer them as best as I can.Also I ask other Iranians members to help.:)
Hey a quick question!....In India Irani Chai is very famous.(Especially in Hyderabad)....have you heard of it.

 
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