Asia Cup 2012

[rai_kamal]

One thing I was telling to everybody here in Pakistan that Misbah shouldn't elect to bat first at Dhaka. Because this ground is like nightmare for any time while batting first whether it is played at Bangla Bhadu National Stadium or in Sher Bangla National Stadium. to justify this Pakistan lost against India in 1997 while batting first even scoring 316, WI lost the QF in 2011 while batting first, WI lost against Bangladesh at Dhaka while batting first in T20, now you should notice in this tournament, Pakistan just escaped against Bangladesh, but Sri Lanka lost against Pakistan while bating first, India Lost to Bangladesh while batting first and now today, Pakistan lost to India even after scoring 329. now just imagine how paradise is this wicket for the team batting second.

I think that was 1998, i may be wrong...

 

[Insaan]

See the result of the matches sir, doesn't matter if he doesn't wickets..if he even maintains good eco rate and disturbs batsman..Then he is making easy for other bowlers to get wickets..
But as u compared, the amir and asif with wasim and mcgrath is still out of my domain knowledge..
They both r now nothing compared to wasim and mcgrath, right now...

Today's match from Cricinfo...
P.Kumar Economy = 7.70 (The highest compared to others in Indian team...)

Just to remind you, Wasim Akram was the one who picked Aamer.
Here is Aamer and Asif. Tell me who they remind you of?

 

[Hello_10]

Virat Kholi has been treated unfairly. If anyone wants to go back to 8 to 10 months ago and see what i posted - i have asked constantly why he hasnt been playing test AND one day cricket regularly. Against Australia he only got a chance in the latter half of the tour and the likes of Hussey and Michael Clarke said he was Indias best player by far.
Now with Dravid retiring and the likes of Laxmann, Tendulkar and Serwag pushed he must surely not be allowed to sit on the sidelines and thrown in immediately with the obvious view to groom him for captaincy in the future. Rohit Sharma should now be a regular name in the 11 as he is one for the future.

Rohit Sharma, S Raina, Yusuf Pathan, R Jadeja are of the same league while rest of the Indian batsmen are in different league. There is none from these four batsmen who have average above 35, while Virat has come with 50+ average with scoring 3500+ runs and would now play test also. Even Gambhir has 40+ average and Yuvraj is also closed to 40 but there is none from the above 4 who may be consistent with their performance. After playing 60+ matches, these four batsmen couldn’t go above 35+ average and Indian batting ‘cut off’ is high. there mustn’t be any reason to replace even man of the series of world cup 2010, Yuvraj Singh, with any of these four whose average isn’t more than Yuvraj.

World cup was played just around 1.5 years before and Tendulkar was the highest scorer from Indian side, just around 20 runs short of Dilsan, the highest scorer in world cup, making Tendulkar the second highest in that tournament. Even in 2011, Tendulkar had average of 46+ in one day cricket while none of these four could have above 35 average also in 2011. Even for the first 3 months of 2012, Tendulkar is the third highest run scorer from Indian side but none from these had 30+ average this year also. Tendulkar, who just scored a hundred 2 days before with scoring 50 in just 45 balls against Pakistan today, a very good bowling attack. Then, why would India play with those who may pull it back but not with the man who may win them matches, the Tendulkar? please check the datas and make comment

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2011;type=year

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2012;type=year

 

[rai_kamal]

Today's match from Cricinfo...
P.Kumar Economy = 7.70 (The highest compared to others in Indian team...)

Just to remind you, Wasim Akram was the one who picked Aamer.
Here is Aamer and Asif. Tell me who they remind you of?

They remind me of those corupt, Hansi cronne and mohammed azaruddin...

 

[Insaan]

They remind me of those corupt, Hansi cronne and mohammed azaruddin...

i am talking about cricket talent and not personal corruption...

 

[cyphercide]

I particularly found the Pakistani team(read Gul sahab) pressurizing Wahab Riaz over advice on how to bowl very counterproductive to his natural rhythm.Let the man do his own thing,he didn't thrash the Indian batting lineup without having some tricks up his sleeve the last time around.

 

[rai_kamal]

Rohit Sharma, S Raina, Yusuf Pathan, R Jadeja are of the same league while rest of the Indian batsmen are in different league. There is none from these four batsmen who have average above 35, while Virat has come with 50+ average with scoring 3500+ runs and would now play test also. Even Gambhir has 40+ average and Yuvraj is also closed to 40 but there is none from the above 4 who may be consistent with their performance. After playing 40+ matches, these four batsmen couldn’t go above 35+ average and Indian batting ‘cut off’ is high. there mustn’t be any reason to replace even man of the series of world cup 2010, Yuvraj Singh, with any of these four whose average isn’t more than Yuvraj.

World cup was played just around 1.5 years before and Tendulkar was the highest scorer from Indian side, just around 20 runs short of Dilsan, the highest scorer in world cup, making Tendulkar the second highest in that tournament. Even in 2011, Tendulkar had average of 46+ in one day cricket while none of these four could have above 35 average also in 2011. Even for the first 3 months of 2012, Tendulkar is the third highest run scorer from Indian side but none from these had 30+ average this year also. Tendulkar, who just scored a hundred 2 days before with scoring 50 in just 45 balls against Pakistan today, a very good bowling attack. Then, why would India play with those who may pull it back but not with the man who may win them matches, the Tendulkar? please check the datas and make comment

Cricket Records | Records | 2011 | One-Day Internationals | Most runs | ESPN Cricinfo

Cricket Records | Records | 2012 | One-Day Internationals | Most runs | ESPN Cricinfo

Tendulkar opens for India and Raina, Rohit sharma gets the chance in the last 10-15 overs so definetly they will have bad average and run...
But, yes about gambhir you r not right, as he is also in good touch...About Yuvi he will replace, rohit sharma soon OR may be jadeja or Y Pathan..

Rohit Sharma, S Raina, Yusuf Pathan, R Jadeja are of the same league while rest of the Indian batsmen are in different league. There is none from these four batsmen who have average above 35, while Virat has come with 50+ average with scoring 3500+ runs and would now play test also. Even Gambhir has 40+ average and Yuvraj is also closed to 40 but there is none from the above 4 who may be consistent with their performance. After playing 40+ matches, these four batsmen couldn’t go above 35+ average and Indian batting ‘cut off’ is high. there mustn’t be any reason to replace even man of the series of world cup 2010, Yuvraj Singh, with any of these four whose average isn’t more than Yuvraj.

World cup was played just around 1.5 years before and Tendulkar was the highest scorer from Indian side, just around 20 runs short of Dilsan, the highest scorer in world cup, making Tendulkar the second highest in that tournament. Even in 2011, Tendulkar had average of 46+ in one day cricket while none of these four could have above 35 average also in 2011. Even for the first 3 months of 2012, Tendulkar is the third highest run scorer from Indian side but none from these had 30+ average this year also. Tendulkar, who just scored a hundred 2 days before with scoring 50 in just 45 balls against Pakistan today, a very good bowling attack. Then, why would India play with those who may pull it back but not with the man who may win them matches, the Tendulkar? please check the datas and make comment

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2011;type=year

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2012;type=year

Tendulkar opens for India and Raina, Rohit sharma gets the chance in the last 10-15 overs so definetly they will have bad average and run...
But, yes about gambhir you r not right, as he is also in good touch...About Yuvi he will replace, rohit sharma soon OR may be jadeja or Y Pathan..

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

i am talking about cricket talent and not personal corruption...

No need to bring here real culprit of Pakistan. Asif and Aamir should be hanged for destroying the image of cricket.
We don't need these bowlers even if you have some shame to take the name of these two culprits.

 

[Dalai Lama]

Looks like I missed all the fun.

 

[fd24]

Rohit Sharma, S Raina, Yusuf Pathan, R Jadeja are of the same league while rest of the Indian batsmen are in different league. There is none from these four batsmen who have average above 35, while Virat has come with 50+ average with scoring 3500+ runs and would now play test also. Even Gambhir has 40+ average and Yuvraj is also closed to 40 but there is none from the above 4 who may be consistent with their performance. After playing 40+ matches, these four batsmen couldn’t go above 35+ average and Indian batting ‘cut off’ is high. there mustn’t be any reason to replace even man of the series of world cup 2010, Yuvraj Singh, with any of these four whose average isn’t more than Yuvraj.

World cup was played just around 1.5 years before and Tendulkar was the highest scorer from Indian side, just around 20 runs short of Dilsan, the highest scorer in world cup, making Tendulkar the second highest in that tournament. Even in 2011, Tendulkar had average of 46+ in one day cricket while none of these four could have above 35 average also in 2011. Even for the first 3 months of 2012, Tendulkar is the third highest run scorer from Indian side but none from these had 30+ average this year also. Tendulkar, who just scored a hundred 2 days before with scoring 50 in just 45 balls against Pakistan today, a very good bowling attack. Then, why would India play with those who may pull it back but not with the man who may win them matches, the Tendulkar? please check the datas and make comment

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2011;type=year

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2012;type=year

I accept the averages but i beg to differ in opinion. Averages dont necessarily tell the full story. Rohit has always been in and out of the side. He has only got in when an injury has occurred to the "elite members" - im talking about the Dravid / Ghambir/ Tendulkar/ Laxmann / Serwag . What you need to do is tell the guy he is in the side for a run of games - lets say 10 games to release the pressure and let him go and play his game. He gets into the side because of an injury to an elite player and whether he does well or doesnt - it doesnt matter - he is dropped and thats unfair to a young chap establishing his career. If that attitude was shown to Graham Gooch or Steve Waugh - they would never have had their careers as they failed early on in their careers too.
All i am saying is its time to get these young guys in and let them settle in the side as they as today has shown are the future.

 

[Hello_10]

Tendulkar opens for India and Raina, Rohit sharma gets the chance in the last 10-15 overs so definetly they will have bad average and run...
But, yes about gambhir you r not right, as he is also in good touch...About Yuvi he will replace, rohit sharma soon OR may be jadeja or Y Pathan..

same is true for MS Dhoni also who is on number 6 and has average of around 70 this year, with overall 50+ in career? just dont get impresssed with Rohit Shrma because he scored 68 today, because this junk scored only 151 this year with an average of 21.57 and if you don't count his today's match, his average for rest of the 7 matches of this year would come down to around 11-12 only
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...st_runs_career.html?class=2;id=2012;type=year

Tendulkar is far better with 30+ average than any of these fours even this year also, while in 2011 his average was 46.63

just compare Rohit and other 3, the Raina/ Y Pathan/ R Jadeja, with the excellent innings of Iron man, Yuvraj Singh, he had performed before with average of close to 40, he also comes at number 6/ 7 isn't it?

 

[Foo_Fighter]

Who won guys????

China (j/k)

 

[Hello_10]

I accept the averages but i beg to differ in opinion. Averages dont necessarily tell the full story. Rohit has always been in and out of the side. He has only got in when an injury has occurred to the "elite members" - im talking about the Dravid / Ghambir/ Tendulkar/ Laxmann / Serwag . What you need to do is tell the guy he is in the side for a run of games - lets say 10 games to release the pressure and let him go and play his game. He gets into the side because of an injury to an elite player and whether he does well or doesnt - it doesnt matter - he is dropped and thats unfair to a young chap establishing his career. If that attitude was shown to Graham Gooch or Steve Waugh - they would never have had their careers as they failed early on in their careers too.
All i am saying is its time to get these young guys in and let them settle in the side as they as today has shown are the future.

sir, I would say, as per the current average of Indian batmen for 2011 till first 3 months of 2012, out of 7 batmen for Indian ODI we would always have Sahwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir, Kohli, Dhoni, Yuvraj with the seventh number to be tried with Rohit, Raina, Pathan, Jadeja at different times in 2012 and then at the end of this year, we would select Indian team for 2013 based on their performance in 2012. And in case of absence/ injury of any of the main six batmen, we will have one more seat of rest of these 3 also

And for Test matches, I would simply include Laxman with the other main six until any of these four may have improved their performance in one day matches during 2012. With lottery for any of these four if any of main batsman gets injured/ absent thanks

 

[Al-zakir]

I think Pakistan lost intentionally to elevate India in to final. It will be bummer if Pakistan become victim and some how drop out from final.

 

[alphamale]

I think Pakistan lost intentionally to elevate India in to final. It will be bummer if Pakistan become victim and some how drop out from final.

i also think B.D will lose to sri lanka intentionally to fix indo-pak final. right