Asad's Air Force Capability analysis.

[BLACKEAGLE]

What freedom? Alqeada freedom? Or the freedom USA brought to Iraq, and NATO to Libya? if that's freedom then i dont want it all.
Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse

Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse - Telegraph


LONG LIVE SYRIA. AND MAY GOD BLESS SYRIA ALASAD.

Look, you can't imitate George W Bush with blaming Alqaeda everytime to excuse doing bad things to Muslims. At least Bush had the most powerful media in the world but you can't imitate him, its old and not working anymore. WAKE UP...

 

[Syrian Lion]

Look, you can't imitate George W Bush with blaming Alqaeda to excuse doing bad things to Muslims. At least Bush had the most powerful media in the world but you can't imitate him, its old and not working anymore. WAKE UP...

I dont understand what your saying? i didn't say anything about George bush or meant anything about him. I was saying look at the freedom Iraq has now, and Libya has now, they are both chaos. During Saddam days did you hear a bomb go off in the street of Baghdad ? but look at Iraq now, bombs every minute, thanks to USA's Iraqi Liberation Operation (OIL).

 

[Birbal]

Serbians were miserably beaten, NATO lost just two aircrafts. That u call success?

And spent billions of dollars on munitions. In the process, NATO was unable to make any significant impact on Serbian forces and had to resort to bombing civilian targets out of frustration.

 

[500]

And spent billions of dollars on munitions.

You need to replace munitions anyway.

In the process, NATO was unable to make any significant impact on Serbian forces and had to resort to bombing civilian targets out of frustration.

Nonsense. Fact is that Serbia was submitted with minimal loses.

Now they live in peace with their neighbors and vote for each other in eurovision (the last thing is very annoying).

 

[Birbal]

You need to replace munitions anyway.

Huh? Why would you need to replace brand new precision guided munitions unless you use them?

Nonsense. Fact is that Serbia was submitted with minimal loses.

Serbia had always offered to pull out of Kosovo and allow an independent peacekeeping force there, but NATO demanded that Serbia allow use of its military bases, which obviously violated Serbian sovereignty and was unacceptable. Then NATO went to war with them and "forced" Serbia to accept a peace plan that it had been willing to accept all along.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I dont understand what your saying? i didn't say anything about George bush or meant anything about him. I was saying look at the freedom Iraq has now, and Libya has now, they are both chaos. During Saddam days did you hear a bomb go off in the street of Baghdad ? but look at Iraq now, bombs every minute, thanks to USA's Iraqi Liberation Operation (OIL).

I am saying that "Alqaeda propaganda" was the main and most helpful excuse for George Bush to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, Syrian regime is trying to imitate Bush in that to get westerns' sympathy but it will not work this time, everything is so obvious. Plus, if Syrian regime was honest about Alqaeda existence, why the regime haven't allowed press TVs to cover Syrian revolution?

 

[500]

Huh? Why would you need to replace brand new precision guided munitions unless you use them?

Because they have shelf time.

Serbia had always offered to pull out of Kosovo and allow an independent peacekeeping force there,

Nonsense. They still cry Kosovo is Serbia. Seems u are living in parallel universe or something.

 

[Syrian Lion]

I am saying that "Alqaeda propaganda" was the main and most helpful excuse for George Bush to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, Syrian regime is trying to imitate Bush in that to get westerns' sympathy but it will not work this time, everything is so obvious. Plus, if Syrian regime was honest about Alqaeda existence, why the regime haven't allowed press TVs to cover Syrian revolution?

The media went to Syria, more then 165 news agency was in Syria did they report anything? NO, funny they went to neighborhoods and reported anti-government, but the ones who are in squares and millions, the media didn't report anything. Plus look what happened, The french journalist France 2 was killed, and the FSA Killed him and they blamed the government. So if the media is there or not, the lies will continue.
And the CIA director and the FBI director said the bombings in Damascus and Aleppo were Alqaeda. Plus Alzwahari said it himself he support the rebels and he helps them.

 

[oceanx]

Its not about Saudis , its about Asad , if he relinquishes power to a public representative govt which doesn't have to be a democratic system will set him free. Otherwise if he keeps killing innocent civilians then no one can stop him from becoming Gaddafi 2.0.

I agree in part.

Having said that, I don't think the chance of Asads ending up in a Qaddafi scenario is high up the probability scale by any stretch of imagination. One, he is not out. Two, even if he is, he is far from down, for Bashar and Co will more than likely carve out their own "Kurdistan", and have it supplied and supplied well. Ain't nobody lifted a finger to supply the wretched Big Q as we all have witnessed. Three, should he be down and out, I wager Russia will "retire him out" ... somewhere in Rus possibly. Pity the Big Q indeed.

Would he end up a Sadat? Surely if he lets his guard down so publicly.

But hard as he tries, would he manage to avoid the fate of a Wasfi al-Tal during the "next 16 years"?

They say he is not like his father or brother. Even his detractors do not accuse him of reveling in corruption (by regional and Asian standards anyway - wife's shopping seems peanuts next to Rania), getting high on dope, hoarding a harem, showering gold on the "london school of economics" only to be happily cashed out by the same lords of the manor (ala Saif)...

Now that Homs is relatively, "tactically" quiet, I sincerely hope his clan spare the man a rope to climb down and live out a Saleh.

By inflicting upon him the 16-year sentence his "inner circle" is condemning him and his family to cruel and unusual punishment.

I know many will beg to differ. But he doesn't deserve this.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

The media went to Syria, more then 165 news agency was in Syria did they report anything? NO, funny they went to neighborhoods and reported anti-government, but the ones who are in squares and millions, the media didn't report anything. Plus look what happened, The french journalist France 2 was killed, and the FSA Killed him and they blamed the government. So if the media is there or not, the lies will continue.
And the CIA director and the FBI director said the bombings in Damascus and Aleppo were Alqaeda. Plus Alzwahari said it himself he support the rebels and he helps them.

I am sorry to say this, but what you said here are utter lies and you in specific know that. And you are trying to delude the ones who don't follow up the events, but I know what are you trying to do. The topic is yours...

 

[Imran Khan]

thats what happen if you let dictators ruled you tens of years .

 

[Syrian Lion]

I am sorry to say this, but what you said here are utter lies and you in specific know that. And you are trying to delude the ones who don't follow up the events, but I know what are you trying to do. The topic is yours...

I like how you picked that one up, the media was there, they were with Arab League monitors. If your blind, it not my fault.
Lol so no comment about the terrorist Alzwahari ha? THE VIDEO IS IN FRONT OF YOU, WATCH IT AND WAKE UP. PLUS CHECK THIS OUT

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...de-al-qaeda-destabilise-assad-government.html

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thats what happen if you let dictators ruled you tens of years .

It's not about dictators. name me one nation that is capable of beating Israel?

 

[Luftwaffe]

Dear friend , first of all good to see you back.

From what i can see from my naive understanding is that all issues between GCC , NATO , UN and Russians are going to be resolved soon upon Syria , Russians don't love Syrians , they just don't want their interests to be risked.

Chinese are now moving towards a rather neutral position & its just a matter of time when Air strikes and then a no fly zone will be on cards.


Lets just discuss the military dimension in this thread , shall we?

Thankyou!, I Agree, As of today, Russian statements tend to show some sort of agreement with NATO-GCC and are backing down from acknowledging Syrian regime to be their close ally-friend.

Syrian air force won't stand a chance at the air strike by NATO primarily, also I don't see Turkish Air Force taking part in it. First 10 Days are going to be crucial as the Air Strikes begin, as of now there is no peaceful solution to the Syrian problem as Asad defies hi stance of not letting go his power to rule syria.

4 Squadrons of Mig-29s and 1 squadron of Foxbats is no game changer. The problem is any potential chemical-biological attack on GCC States, while it is highly unlikely for ground invasion sort of but syrian troops will be engaged with locals that in later part might be equipt with small arms as a resistance force by NATO, situation would be similar to libya..

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Kings and Presidents/ Prime Ministers- Governments dont hand out Human Rights. ALLAH does.

If ANY leader thinks that he/she can go into JUNNAH with the blood of their citizens on their hands is a pretty dumba$$ leader. The Martyrs will point the leaders to HELL.

If Muslims forget about Islam, then ALLAH has Blinded the nonbelievers forever.

LOL at that Saudi (Mosamania) saying they can wipe out Assad's Air Force by themselves. Yemen was Mission Accomplished for you?

If Turkiye gets involved Scuds will be falling in Istanbul (Hope they dont cant have my vaction cut short). Assad can pack a punch. He's got plenty of firepower. And he will take down everyone he can.

 

[Mosamania]

Kings and Presidents/ Prime Ministers- Governments dont hand out Human Rights. ALLAH does.

If ANY leader thinks that he/she can go into JUNNAH with the blood of their citizens on their hands is a pretty dumba$$ leader. The Martyrs will point the leaders to HELL.

If Muslims forget about Islam, then ALLAH has Blinded the nonbelievers forever.

LOL at that Saudi (Mosamania) saying they can wipe out Assad's Air Force by themselves. Yemen was Mission Accomplished for you?

If Turkiye gets involved Scuds will be falling in Istanbul (Hope they dont cant have my vaction cut short). Assad can pack a punch. He's got plenty of firepower. And he will take down everyone he can.

In Yemen Houthis ran away with their tails between their legs when our AirForce bombed away all their hide outs. They offered truce not once not twice but three times and we established a 10 Kilometers buffer zone across the Yemeni Border. I don't know what you call this but I call this Mission Accomplished with flying colors.