Asad Umar attacks Sectarianism over Coronavirus

[Sine Nomine]

Bigger question is, would Pakistani Shias, like usual brush these Iranian shenanigans under the carpet, and disappoint the rest of Pakistanis?

They would do that.

 

[Valar.]

If someone posted a thread about COVID-19 being an Israeli conspiracy without any credible supporting evidence, I would delete that as well.

Would you delete this thread then?

Cannot rule out American military involvement in COVID-19 creation. Dr Atta Ur Rehman, ex minister
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/cann...reation-dr-atta-ur-rehman-ex-minister.658839/

 

[M. Sarmad]

Sectarianism Against Who, and to counter who ? I am sorry but Speaking the Truth ain't Sectarianism ..

The only truth is that the only sect that has had the backing of the state is the Deoband sect.
They are no more than 15% of the population of Pakistan but run > 75% of religious seminaries
All sarkari Mullahs ever since the time of Zia have been Deoband
It's not the Shia Zaireen but the Tableeghi Jamaat who have spread coronavirus across Pakistan.
See, Truth is always subjective .. At this time we do not afford sectarian rift..

As for the Shia lobby... Shias do prefer other Shia (like what every other sect does), but comparing them with the pro-Israel/Jewish lobby is hilarious ... Maybe you are confusing the Liberal/Secular lobby with Shia lobby

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

but we do have problem with the Iranian way of treating Pakistani shias

That!

I completely agree that the Iranians treated Pakistanis poorly, specifically the Iranians treated Pakistani Shia poorly.

The Pakistani Shia families that were in Iran during the outbreak are going to suffer the most here. Loss of income during quarantine or illness, the spread of the disease to their family members and friends etc.

But what is done is done. One has to recognize that very few countries had a good response to the disease. The Iranians didn’t do this out of spite or anti-Pakistan sentiment, they did it out of panic and fear and because their own domestic situation is really bad. What we need to focus on is how to prevent this in the future and that requires GOP engagement with the Iranian govt.

 

[HAIDER]

Excellent response by Asad Umar against people spreading sectarian hatred over Coronavirus

https://twitter.com/x/status/1244219253382938624

But , i appreciate great gesture of Asad Umar (an educated Sunni) who came forward and condemn Khaja Asif stupid statement, a veteran politician who passed such irresponsible statement, but anyway his leader feed and breed LEj for ages.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Pakistani Shia don’t go around demanding Pakistani Sunnis to ‘demonstrate’ their anger at the Saudi and Emirati betrayal of Pakistan’s interests WRT India.

Not long ago both of them gave Pakistan money and have give oil at deferred payment when we needed.Millions of Pakistanis are working their and earning their bread and butter and if your royal highness wants to talk in context of Bharat,what was JBY doing in Iran,who provided him surety to go ahead with plan of using East Iran as an area for retreating and regrouping Terrorists?

 

[YeBeWarned]

Honestly there is no meaning of discussion when the Mod is biased and keep Deleting post .. I think @WebMaster should look into the @AgNoStiC MuSliM and his Bias, there is no Freedom of speech even after remaining within the parameters of PDF rules ...

 

[Valar.]

Honestly there is no meaning of discussion when the Mod is biased and keep Deleting post .. I think @WebMaster should look into the @AgNoStiC MuSliM and his Bias, there is no Freedom of speech even after remaining within the parameters of PDF rules ...

Moderators' job should be just to moderate when reported. Not to actively engage in discussion while on high horse with full fury. You want to do that, be a Think Thank instead. Just my humble opinion.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Not long ago both of them gave Pakistan money and have give oil at deferred payment when we needed.Millions of Pakistanis are working their and earning their bread and butter and if your royal highness wants to talk in context of Bharat,what was JBY doing in Iran,who provided him surety to go ahead with plan of using East Iran as an area for retreating and regrouping Terrorists?

You’re missing the point - Pakistani Shia don’t go around asking Pakistani Sunni to Demonstrate against this or that - making statements or demands like this is just another way of ‘othering’ (painting a particular demographic as being different and placing a higher burden on them). This is no different than the right wing Islampohobes in the West demanding that ‘Muslims demonstrate opposition to Terrorism and/or Islamic Extremism’ to THEIR satisfaction.

It’s unacceptable when Islamophobes demand it it or when people like you demand it.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

So can you detail these so called ‘Shia lobbying groups’ and what their goals are, like I have illustrated for the ‘Pro-Israel lobbies’ in the US?

The most prominent one is ZULFI bukhari, whose name just keeps coming.

He has been issued notice by Islamabad High court.

https://www.brecorder.com/2020/03/2...id-19-in-country-zulfi-others-issued-notices/

 

[Sine Nomine]

That!

I completely agree that the Iranians treated Pakistanis poorly, specifically the Iranians treated Pakistani Shia poorly.

The Pakistani Shia families that were in Iran during the outbreak are going to suffer the most here. Loss of income during quarantine or illness, the spread of the disease to their family members and friends etc.

But what is done is done. One has to recognize that very few countries had a good response to the disease. The Iranians didn’t do this out of spite or anti-Pakistan sentiment, they did it out of panic and fear and because their own domestic situation is really bad. What we need to focus on is how to prevent this in the future and that requires GOP engagement with the Iranian govt.

Come on man they are Govt,which is running proxy ops in whole of M.E and has successfully turned three states into ruins had daily session of fist fighting with uncle sam.I don't think they panicked,they knew that Pakistanis are not that important neither their state would complain,so they just dumped our people.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The most prominent one is ZULFI bukhari, whose name just keeps coming.

He has been issued notice by Islamabad High court.

https://www.brecorder.com/2020/03/2...id-19-in-country-zulfi-others-issued-notices/

That’s not a lobbying group - that’s a, so far, unfounded allegation about one individual using his influence that is now going to be dealt with in court and therefore people should wait for the court decision and accept the courts decision on it either way.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

And there are some users who have been spreading sectarian hate here, with backing of mods.

No one is spreading sectarian hate...All we do is just point out How Iran is fooling Shia citizens of Pakistan and damaging Pakistan ...

How this is a SECTARIAN hate?

You mad, bro?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Come on man they are Govt,which is running proxy ops in whole of M.E and has successfully turned three states into ruins had daily session of fist fighting with uncle sam.I don't think they panicked,they knew that Pakistanis are not that important neither their state would complain,so they just dumped our people.

They dumped Afghans out too. These are the two countries with borders with them and the largest numbers of pilgrims so obviously geographic realities dictate that they can push them to the borders. They can’t exactly push people from countries without borders with Iran out to the sea.

Again, this is a unique situation that hasn’t been seen before - the GOP has the responsibility to make sure it doesn’t occur again.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

That’s not a lobbying group - that’s a, so far, unfounded allegation about one individual using his influence that is now going to be dealt with in court and therefore people should wait for the court decision and accept the courts decision on it either way.

Do you think he is alone? I don't think so....

Agreed on court decision point, though.

People are not stupid nor everyone is sectarian here....People are saying what they are feeling...You can't stop people from expressing their point of view....

You live in US and yet you are limiting free speech here.