As Trump vows to stop flow of jobs overseas, U.S. plans to make fighter jets in India

[T-72]

I'm guessing you are just venting your own views rather than seriously asking to understand why ideological conservatives like Reagan, Thatcher, etc., believed in free trade and free markets, so I will leave it at that.

An ideologue he's not, "don't want Boeing making that much money"

 

[艹艹艹]

The whole thing is silly to begin with.
Currently there is no consensus India of buying American fighter jets in and people are talking about manufacturing them.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This is all moot.

They were going to reconfigure the F16 production line for the F35.

They aren't going to hold up the F35 line just for F16 orders that "may" happen.
So if they want to continue building F16s they would have to make a new facility nearby...which is unlikely for something that is not a "sure thing".

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

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[DJ_Viper]

I'm guessing you are just venting your own views rather than seriously asking to understand why ideological conservatives like Reagan, Thatcher, etc., believed in free trade and free markets, so I will leave it at that.

There is no venting here. What's the Reagan's of the world wanting with free trade? Please enlighten me. Also cite some credible resources to back up the claims also.

Additionally, fvck the "ideologists", I like the reality. A real man deals with reality. Not ideology. On paper, the word "free trade" sounds hot and se*cxy, like an all American blonde with blue eyes. In reality, my current girlfriend has dark hair. You see what I am talking about . So instead of remembering my ideal ex-girlfriends, I am dealing with the reality and trying to spend all quality time with the dark hair one. Who knows, we might end up getting married .

Similarly, America and Americans aren't a course of "theory" and "ideologies" when it comes to making sure we have proper jobs. The reality is that the American jobs are being sent to overseas. Theoretically and ideologically, it is being done to bring our strategic "friends" middle class up. But back to reality, we are sending our jobs offshore and trillions of long term revenue and longer term careers of our kids are being sent offshore in the shape of those jobs. So this reality has to be dealt with. Which means, we want to manufacture, produce and build our products and services here. Reality again, we now have the capacity to produce the labor in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths) here in the US. So, why do we need to sell our future to other countries? We'll keep that here and will help our future generations in getting and keeping good jobs and careers and that alone, would continue to make America great again by ensuring our own citizens prosper in life and are successful career-wise, and financially.

 

[Kaniska]

Sir, with all due respect, where did you get the "ideology" that tells you to wholesale your nation out to others? That you become poor and left behind in dust and others take your money and climb the ladder of power and riches? How many millions of jobs have we gotten from China or India? (if anyone from India or China responds, do know that putting your money in the US, and then using that money to hire and bring more Indians or Chinese, doesn't mean creating jobs in the US as this is a trick to expand your footprint here, the same footprint Mr. Trump is trying to remove). So we are not stupid or born yesterday. We know what's up.

This is the time we got our status and jobs back. There is no effing ideology that says our kids should graduate with degrees and work at $ 10-15 an hour jobs with $ 100K in student loans and debt. While others come from overseas and have no debt, and start making $ 70-80 k right away and keep sending 80% money overseas while living with 8 people in a 2 bedroom apartment with $ 300 per person monthly expense. While our American kids suffer and are getting depressed due to not finding suitable jobs.

We need our children to get those jobs, pay their debt and have a good life, so that our own system continues. People coming from the outside, send hundreds of billions back to their home countries while that money could've stayed here if American graduates got those jobs. Period!

I agree with you 100%. Even also i am an immigrant but still then it is a very valid sentiment from the local and native American people. But million dollar question is that why would US shifts its job to outside?? It is not like US is not smart enough to understand that it impacts its job scenario. Again, i am referring to US policy decision of earlier times when outsourcing of manufacturing as well as service industries started going to China and India respectively.

 

[DJ_Viper]

I agree with you 100%. Even also i am an immigrant but still then it is a very valid sentiment from the local and native American people. But million dollar question is that why would US shifts its job to outside?? It is not like US is not smart enough to understand that it impacts its job scenario. Again, i am referring to US policy decision of earlier times when outsourcing of manufacturing as well as service industries started going to China and India respectively.

The businesses wanted to all grow at the same time from a technology's standpoint in the mid 90's, we didn't have enough people. Plus, Indian PM back then, came in and did an excellent sales pitch on how we can help India be a counter to Chin, etc, etc. And we bought into it.

But the real issue is, why should we send our middle class to India, China, etc, (including, at some point, even your career as you are now living in the US), when you reside here, will have children born and raised here and they will have student loans and will need a career, etc, etc? So if there was a flawed policy, I think Mr. Trump has now recognized it and one of his agenda item is to get these things fixed and he will do it.

Just today (before officially taking the office over in January), he asked his staff for a list of companies still doing the off-shore thing, or sending work and product manufacturing to overseas. He's a great and smart guy, he gets it. And I am sure he'll be putting a boot up many rears within the next few months to get things moving and bringing money back to the US. Its good for America from all angles.

His appointee to China as an ambassador, is a great pic too. He'll have plenty of leverage over China as the ambassador personally knows the Chinese president so a lot can happen behind the scenes. When we can deal with the Chinese directly, why do we need anyone else? We just need to make our country great again