As trade war escalates, Chinese remember ‘national humiliation’

[Viva_Viet]

Just give it time, China has plenty cards to play in its hand too.

Their low point came with Japan during the 30s and 40s.

It is why they revere Mao so much still...it goes past communism or anything like that, he was the great unifier and gave the platform for China to grow again and recover.

Compared to that stuff, China challenge today with US is nothing....it can be handled and plenty of buffers to sacrifice without needing any kind of actual hot war....given Chinese have shaped and grounded their national existence and keep in touch with the history regarding the bad episodes of it.

Do u know that Mao had to keep begging help from Stalin just for re take Xinjiang ?? and before Stalin agree to help Mao, he just let Mao stay and wait and did Nothing for more than a week in Soviet ??

Without Stalin help, Mao may died in unknow CN desert and No one even remember who is Mao now.

 

[Kai Liu]

Sun wo kong descent can bark here only. What Japanese did in China. This is shameful for descendants of SUN WO KONG.

Poor jungle animals...

 

[sinait]

Right, its good time to observe now, for us, we fought against both US-CN and win both, so simply know them ( US-CN) so well. Thats why in early 2018, we predicted CN is in chaos in 2023 due to US sanction.

And there r 02 things u can take note:

1. rich Cnese dont care abt "national humiliation" they only care abt their own bussiness. When making money in CN is hard, they simply close the factories, fire Cnese workers and flee to VN

2.PLA men only care abt themselves, they wont fight and die for poor Cnese ( not mentioning they dont know any good tactic except human wave attack ). So, US can 'humiliate' PLA by attack the islands under CN control in SCS( east VN sea) and Im sure that PLA will still sit and watch and barking loudly as usual.

Vietnam is smart to "WIN" China by giving An Nam Gate and Ban Gioc Waterfall to China.
Win Win.
Now Vietnam "WIN" again by giving HORDES of their women to poor Chinese peasants.
Win Win.

SO MUCH WINNING for AGENT ORANGE BRAIN DAMAGED.
Hahahahaha.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Sun wo kong descent can bark here only. What Japanese did in China. This is shameful for descendants of SUN WO KONG.

better than vietnamese langurs who surrendered without a fight like a whore baring her butthole at the invaders

and collaborated with her invaders like the stinky turncoat she was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Vietnam

 

[cochine]

Yes, we pay you slaves here some bananas to eat..hahaha...

There is ethnic living in border area, could zhuang or Thai/Katay ...


During a recent Senate inquiry on the influx of foreign workers in the Philippines, it was revealed that the labor department has issued almost 52,000 alien employment permits for workers from China.

 

[Kai Liu]

There is ethnic living in border area, could zhuang or Thai/Katay ...


During a recent Senate inquiry on the influx of foreign workers in the Philippines, it was revealed that the labor department has issued almost 52,000 alien employment permits for workers from China.

 

[cochine]

better than vietnamese langurs who surrendered without a fight like a whore baring her butthole at the invaders

and collaborated with her invaders like the stinky turncoat she was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Vietnam

Chinese were very happy in the past, under rule of Japanese. Not deny that you kiss a2 of Japanese in the past.

Police in the northern province of Lào Cai have handed over 10 Chinese nationals accused of online swindling to police of Hekou county, China’s Yunnan province. — VNA/VNS Photo Hồng Ninh
Read more at http://vietnamnews.vn/society/481548/chinese-swindlers-arrested-in-lao-cai.html#yPsMcoOKTDdJuu6y.99

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

better than vietnamese langurs who surrendered without a fight like a whore baring her butthole at the invaders

and collaborated with her invaders like the stinky turncoat she was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Vietnam

1 moment, the vietnamese were eating baguette- the next moment, they were happily munching on sushi.

 

[Kai Liu]

Chinese were very happy in the past, under rule of Japanese. Not deny that you kiss a2 of Japanese in the past.

Your entire country is soooooo happy... And even saw your french daddy shake hands with your jap daddy...

 

[cochine]

Poor jungle animals...

This is Nan Jing Massacre in China, do you know that ?

 

[Kai Liu]

This is Nan Jing Massacre in China, do you know that ?

 

[Dungeness]

Just give it time, China has plenty cards to play in its hand too.

Their low point came with Japan during the 30s and 40s.

It is why they revere Mao so much still...it goes past communism or anything like that, he was the great unifier and gave the platform for China to grow again and recover.

Compared to that stuff, China challenge today with US is nothing....it can be handled and plenty of buffers to sacrifice without needing any kind of actual hot war....given Chinese have shaped and grounded their national existence and keep in touch with the history regarding the bad episodes of it.

As for the current generations being more softer etc, because they are removed from the tough years now....that is true somewhat....but that is turning into global phenomenon more broadly anyway....its not a special chinese trait or anything. If anything I find Chinese grounded in lot of conservative stuff (on common sense stuff) rather than the liberal artsy theoretical crap that is ruining lot of western world.

But let us see....Vietnam also stands to benefit a lot for sure...but it is not zero sum world where you need destruction of china to see your advancement. Chinese at basic level will fight and give it their all for their unity (again this goes past communism, mercantilism, trade etc...which are just means to the end)....because they know one step back is one step towards the earlier nightmare. All they gained now is basically buffer that will be shed as needed to try smooth things over the proper way....but cut too deep and u reach the bone and I dont think anyone will want to do that to China.

In the end better multi-polar world is in everyone interests...and China is definitely a cog in that. We must acknowledge it. Just seeking vengeance/doom on a huge country (through projecting their people as whatever) is ok for internet flame wars and stuff....but serious talk wise, there must be balance and sanguine approach on it I feel.

@Chinese-Dragon @Genesis @GeraltofRivia @long_ @Marine Rouge

@Dungeness

Well said, but you are talking to the wrong ear. Your VN friend has only one thing in mind: CN collapse 2023, VN takes Laos and Cambodia, better yet, Guangxi Province and part of Thailand to go with, to form a Dai VN.

You are right about Mao. Few outside of China can understand the magnitude of extend and depth has Mao changed the China and Chinese. Simply put it, Mao formed the backbone of Today's China and Chinese.

When Xi decided to take on the challenge of the trade war, he must have reviewed Mao's work "On the Protracted War". The original draft of the trade deal was drafted in Mar-May last year, and there is no way the Chinese leadership was going to sign such a humiliating treaty, but they let the talk go on for another year before "reneged". The US side was made to believe they had the upper hand, and was under the false impression that a major concession from the desperate Chinese was near, for a freaking full year.

If you have noticed some seemly unrelated news, you would know Chinese has been steadily increasing rice import from some countries, Vietnam, Cambodia, Pakistan, to name a few, during this time. China is getting ready to play a long game.

Trump is a very simple business guy, "Maximum Pressure" to get the best deal, then he would be happy. So he could make good on his words, and make China a bigger version of Japan along the way. But he is surrounded by old guards with ideological belief tattooed all over, like John Bolton. For Trump, a good trade deal is the end of fight, for John Bolton it is just the first step to destroy China, an "evil commie state".

American theory of "Clash with non-Caucasian Civilization" just gives not only what CPC needed to rally Chinese under the banner of nationalism, but also a legitimate reason to China to fight for Asian Civilization.

This is going to be bumpy ride, buckle up!

 

[sinait]

Sun wo kong descent can bark here only. What Japanese did in China. This is shameful for descendants of SUN WO KONG.

This post must surely qualify this poster for a long holiday.
Picture of dead babies, decapitated heads, soldiers bayoneting the dead.
@was
.

 

[Kai Liu]

This post must surely qualify this poster for a long holiday.
Picture of dead babies, decapitated heads, soldiers bayoneting the dead.
@was
.

This jungle idiot think posting dead bodies is fun. Every time, this jungle idiot started this shit, and we just to respond him... He think the jungle didn't suffer from war?? Matter of fact, the jungle is either under occupation or under invasion throughout its 2,000 year history...

 

[Viva_Viet]

Well said, but you are talking to the wrong ear. Your VN friend has only one thing in mind: CN collapse 2023, VN takes Laos and Cambodia, better yet, Guangxi Province and part of Thailand to go with, to form a Dai VN.

You are right about Mao. Few outside of China can understand the magnitude of extend and depth has Mao changed the China and Chinese. Simply put it, Mao formed the backbone of Today's China and Chinese.

History recorded that Mao came to Soviet, kept begging food and help from Stalin for more than a week to avoid starving to dead in unknow CN desert.( Mao even said Im not in Soviet for just eat and Shjtt).

Lucky for Mao, Stalin agreed to help after he thought Mao is "trustable" student as Mao kept eating and shjjting as Stalin told him for more than a week

And pls not that Laos under VN control since 60s and Camb under VN control after 1979.