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As of today. Strait of Hormuz is closed for US

Is their no international water (belongs to no country) in this part of the sea ?? And how will you close your part ?? and please provide any link for your claim for Oman's water . Thanks
It doesnt seem that way, which is what makes it very interesting. I believe for Iran(at least) there is an overlap of international waterways and territorial waters.

Now back to reality- Iran has the geographical advantage over the persian gulf. US military knows that too.

To keep Strait of hormuz "free", US/GCC will have to do strikes deep in Iran to prevent anti-ship missile launches. Doing deep strikes in Iran requires full commitment to that thorough/full/serious military plan, but US+ GCC are not motivated enough as things are to get prepared for a full military option on Iran, so in reality US+ GCC are more likely bluffing about closing strait of hormuz. Just watch- the moment Iran attempts to close it US will muster all its bich azz allies from all over the world to come to the strait and support "freedom of navigation" in the strait. FOH.
 
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US Must Talk to Revolutionary Guards if It Wants to Enter Hormuz Strait - Zarif
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16:14 24.04.2019(updated 16:57 24.04.2019)
Earlier, Washington designated the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps a 'terrorist' group, and announced that it would allow sanctions waivers on Iranian oil exports to expire next month.

If the US wants to enter the Strait of Hormuz, they will have to talk to the IRGC forces protecting it, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has said.

"We believe that Iran will continue to sell its oil. We will continue to find buyers for our oil and we will continue to use the Strait of Hormuz as a safe transit passage for the sale of our oil," Zarif said, speaking in New York on Wednesday at the Asia Society. "If the United States takes the crazy measure of trying to prevent us from doing that, then it should be prepared for the consequences," he warned.



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Iran Oil: China Warns US Sanctions Will Whip Up Turmoil in Middle East
Zarif accused Washington of pursuing a "very dangerous" policy toward Tehran. According to Zarif, President Trump was wrong if he thought tough sanctions could get Iran to change its policy. "[Trump] thinks through further pressure on Iran, the so-called 'maximum pressure policy,' he can bring us to our knees. He's mistaken," Zarif said, quipping that Iranians were "allergic to pressure."


Zarif also shot down the Trump administration's earlier proposals for "new" negotiations on Iran's nuclear program, saying the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) agreement was "the best deal that we could achieve."

The Trump administration officially designated Iran's Revolutionary Guards as a foreign terrorist organisation last week, prompting Iran to return the favour and designate the US military as a terrorist organisation as part of a "comprehensive plan" to retaliate against Washington's "hostile policies."

On Monday, the US announced that it would not renew exemptions on Iranian oil exports provided to countries including China, India, Japan, South Korea and Turkey once they expire on May 2. Tehran defied the sanctions threats, with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei saying his country would continue to export as much oil as it needs to.



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Iran's Rouhani Reveals Conditions for Resumption of Negotiations With US
Earlier Wednesday, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said Iran would be ready to negotiate with the US on reducing tensions, but only if Washington treated Iran with respect, lifted sanctions and apologised "for their illegal actions."


Tensions between Iran and the US escalated in May 2018, when Washington unilaterally withdrew from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and imposed several rounds of tough sanctions, including oil sanctions meant to drive the country's energy exports down "to zero." The two countries have not enjoyed normal diplomatic relations since the Islamic Revolution of 1979.

The poor relations between Tehran and Washington have sparked fears about the security of the Strait of Hormuz, a key strategic waterway through which roughly 20 percent of the world's total oil and 35 percent of ship-based oil exports are transported. Iranian officials have repeatedly threatened to close the artery if the US attempted to block Iranian oil exports.




https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201904241074419574-iran-hormuz-strait-us-revolutionary-guards/


Misleading title for trolling purpose.
 
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Thank you for this valuable share.

NOW:-

"The domain of U.S. Navy electronic warfare is a shadowy one, and even conceptual publication of details surrounding these systems and the hardware they are based on is somewhat limited." - Tyler Rogoway

Some pointers for public consumption:

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- but nobody privy to the capabilities of these systems will provide classified information to strangers.

Hardkill approaches are relatively better known, and also active at present: https://whitefleet.net/2016/08/05/sm-2-sm-3-sm-6-and-essm-a-guide-to-us-naval-air-defense-missiles/

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Now let us examine Iranian Khalij Fars ASBM related test and critic it.


Problem # 1: Target vessel was stationary but a USN war-fighting vessel will be in motion (SOP), and can also be expected to perform evasive maneuvers when threatened. USN war-fighting vessel is not a defenseless vehicle either; see above and consider problem # 2.

Problem # 2: Target vessel was not representative of the war-fighting capabilities of any notable USN war-fighting vessel; not possible for Iran to develop a clone of Arleigh Burke class destroyer and simulate its technologies for example - not even Russia and China can do this for you.

Problem # 3: In order to subject any USN vessel to an ASBM-based strike, its position must be known and movements must be tracked in real-time. Iranian coastal radar systems are necessary for this end but USN will take these out in case of war.

You cannot be shooting ASBM into the sea blindly - can you?

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BACK to US:-

Q: Do you think that American corporations cannot develop an ASBM and employ it as a target vehicle to pit against American missile defense applications during the course of trials?

Here are some examples: https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/sr19_sr19.htm

Not difficult to convert one of those ballistic missiles into an ASBM of Iranian caliber, Chinese caliber, or even Russian caliber, if need be, or even develop one from scratch. American expertise in 'rocket science' was never in doubt to begin with.

For example: http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/...ssful-test-missile-destroy-china-s-df-21d.htm

A country's R&D base and capabilities are to be taken into consideration when evaluating its testing regimes. Since American R&D base and associated investments outstrip all other, you can expect US to pull off incredibly realistic testing regimes for its defense-related applications. This reality escape the minds of many unfortunately.

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Connect the aforementioned dots, and you might see the bigger picture.

My take is that Iran have pulled off a convincing PSYOP for public consumption. In this manner, Iranian public is kept assured, and potential enemies also have something to work with.


See above.

F-35 variants are likely to provide BMDS coverage in BOOST PHASE because they are particularly designed to penetrate a heavily defended airspace, get to TELs very fast and take them out - all in a short span of time.
yes they can test ASBM, but the discussion began when you said they have answers for any iranian threat and now here we are, we don't know what they have or don't. so they have no system to counter ASBMs atleast on the paper.
S-300 or what not. UAE has air-superiority over Iran anyone who says otherwise is handicapped has no militarily knowlegde
f-14 max detection range is 370 km for a fighter size plane (5 sqm), your f-16s with apg-80 have detection range of 100 km for a plane with RCS of 1 sqm. f-14 RCS is 15 m^2, f-16 is 3 m^2. it means the detection ranges in a head on scenario will be 325 km for f-14 and 196 for f-16. fakour missile is mach 5 capable with 160 km range, your amraams (if they are latest model) are mach 4 with 160 km range. fakour active radar homing range is 50 km while amraams is 24 km. so our f-14 gonna detect your f-16s first and they gonna fire first and as their missile is faster than yours and it has better active radar range, they will hit first and turn and land in their base safely. f-14s are the best 4th generation fighter that west ever build, it's better than f-16 and f-15 and mirages and tornados.
you misunderstood we were talking about US that has air superiority over us otherwise we can tear down UAE air force. you can verify every thing that i said as you are a knowledgeable person that knows about military stuff.
 
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yes they can test ASBM, but the discussion began when you said they have answers for any iranian threat and now here we are, we don't know what they have or don't. so they have no system to counter ASBMs atleast on the paper.

f-14 max detection range is 370 km for a fighter size plane (5 sqm), your f-16s with apg-80 have detection range of 100 km for a plane with RCS of 1 sqm. f-14 RCS is 15 m^2, f-16 is 3 m^2. it means the detection ranges in a head on scenario will be 325 km for f-14 and 196 for f-16. fakour missile is mach 5 capable with 160 km range, your amraams (if they are latest model) are mach 4 with 160 km range. fakour active radar homing range is 50 km while amraams is 24 km. so our f-14 gonna detect your f-16s first and they gonna fire first and as their missile is faster than yours and it has better active radar range, they will hit first and turn and land in their base safely. f-14s are the best 4th generation fighter that west ever build, it's better than f-16 and f-15 and mirages and tornados.
you misunderstood we were talking about US that has air superiority over us otherwise we can tear down UAE air force. you can verify every thing that i said as you are a knowledgeable person that knows about military stuff.

UAE has f-35A you won't even detect them with s-300 and f-14s pose not much of a chellenge.

By the way F-16s wins easily in a dogfight against f-14s. F-16s are far superior. they ethablish air-superiority without much of a chellenge
 
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UAE has f-35A
yeah ok
By the way F-16s wins easily in a dogfight against f-14
the dogfights we had in iran-iraq war was because of phoenix missile shortage, we don't have the problem anymore.
also even if any dogfight occurs that would be awesome as one of the most maneuverable US fighters ever is f-14:
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f-14 max turn rate is better than f-16 and f-15, it's stull speed is almost 60 km/h while f-15 is 200 km/h lol.
f-14 maximum angle of attack is 72 deg, while f-15 is almost 25 deg, you can search online f-14 during it's flight tests perform cobra maneuver however at those days US didn't know that she can use it in dogfights and for first time russians used it.
you see how much an f-15 is capable and cool fighter, that compared to an f-14 is a toy.

also based on f-35 RCS number (0.005), an f-14 can detect it from 65 KMs.
 
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yes they can test ASBM, but the discussion began when you said they have answers for any iranian threat and now here we are, we don't know what they have or don't. so they have no system to counter ASBMs atleast on the paper.
All those softkill and hardkill technologies that I have pointed out in my earlier responses are installed on Arleigh Burke class destroyers at present. I mentioned these technologies because they are designed to defeat different types of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. I even posted a video of these technogies nuetralizing ASCM and ASBM in a complex testing regime.

ASBM are ballistic missiles, and technologies designed to defeat ballistic missiles will defeat ASBM as well. Example in this link: http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/...ssful-test-missile-destroy-china-s-df-21d.htm

Pay close attention, friend.
 
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yeah ok

the dogfights we had in iran-iraq war was because of phoenix missile shortage, we don't have the problem anymore.
also even if any dogfight occurs that would be awesome as one of the most maneuverable US fighters ever is f-14:
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f-14 max turn rate is better than f-16 and f-15, it's stull speed is almost 60 km/h while f-15 is 200 km/h lol.
f-14 maximum angle of attack is 72 deg, while f-15 is almost 25 deg, you can search online f-14 during it's flight tests perform cobra maneuver however at those days US didn't know that she can use it in dogfights and for first time russians used it.
you see how much an f-15 is capable and cool fighter, that compared to an f-14 is a toy.

also based on f-35 RCS number (0.005), an f-14 can detect it from 65 KMs.

UAE has a large margin of air-superiority over Iran. They could technically enter Iran airspace without detection.

15 miles is the detection range for F35A. They could be 15 miles from Tehren when you know they are there. They could cripple Iran's major human centers without much chellenge. This is one of the reasons the US called UAE the ''Little Sparta'' They have considerable edge on Iran in the Hormuz straits.

They have also alot of wealth to develope even further so the gap could be larger in the future then it is currently. They are just developing at faster rate.

There is reality vs fiction. Saudi Arabia and UAE have better prospect to increase their technological advantages over the other players in the region. They are going at faster rates than anyone else in the Region
 
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Iran didn't build its military capability to the extent it can genuinely threaten U.S

Iran can target Western oil facilities and NATO military bases throughout the region. Of course, the backlash would be massive, but they could still do it.
 
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yeah ok

the dogfights we had in iran-iraq war was because of phoenix missile shortage, we don't have the problem anymore.
also even if any dogfight occurs that would be awesome as one of the most maneuverable US fighters ever is f-14:
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f-14 max turn rate is better than f-16 and f-15, it's stull speed is almost 60 km/h while f-15 is 200 km/h lol.
f-14 maximum angle of attack is 72 deg, while f-15 is almost 25 deg, you can search online f-14 during it's flight tests perform cobra maneuver however at those days US didn't know that she can use it in dogfights and for first time russians used it.
you see how much an f-15 is capable and cool fighter, that compared to an f-14 is a toy.

also based on f-35 RCS number (0.005), an f-14 can detect it from 65 KMs.
F-14 is very good aircraft but problem is lack of support from US in keeping Iranian fleet up-to-date. If Iran and US were friends...

UAE have up-to-date jets so there's that.

Also, no, not possible to unmask F-35 at 65 KM range via jet-based radar systems at present. F-35 block 3f - current version - have uniform rcs of 3.8 mm only - Russian S-400 system which have a powerful radar system can notice F-35 block 3f at around 21 miles mark, and Russian Su-35S at even less.
 
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Is a new world order emerging to replace US hegemony?

Marco Carnelos

26 April 2019 12:03 UTC | Last update: 4 hours 21 min ago
An increasingly multipolar, culturally diversified world order, unhindered by Washington’s leadership, seems to be finally emerging
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Iranian students burn an American flag outside the former US embassy in Tehran in November 2004 (AFP)
China’s global rise and Russia’s renewed assertiveness are stimulating heated debate about the endurance of the so-called liberal world order, led by the United States.

This global confrontation has many facets: clashes in the Middle East, Ukraine and the South China Sea; US and EU sanctions against Russia; the trade war against China; cyber-warfare, 5G and telecommunications network security tensions; the Venezuelan crisis; China’s Belt and Road Initiative; and, last but not least, the search for an alternative financial system to the Western one and unhooked from the dollar.

There is a debate on the current international rules - whether they should be changed, how and by whom. After the 1945-1991 bipolar world order, followed by the unipolar American one, is an increasingly multipolar, culturally diversified world order, unhindered by Washington’s leadership, finally emerging?

The Iranian revolution
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s speech at the 2007 Munich Conference on Security Policy, the 2008 financial meltdown, Xi Jinping’s 2013 rise to power in China and subsequent launch of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank and the Belt and Road project, and the European populist wave, are considered crucial steps towards such a transition.

But longer before the emergence of these new multipolar forces, it was Iran - through its 1979 revolution - that launched a systematic challenge to the Western liberal world order.

The revolution launched a religious, political and social model that was an affront to the Western, secular political model. It combined two seemingly irreconcilable elements: theocracy and democracy.

The West never reconciled itself with the notion that a popular revolution could have produced a religious, conservative government

Ayatollah Khomeini conceived a government legitimated both by God and by popular sovereignty through a republican system. Iran’s subsequent history, including its troubled relationship with the West, has revolved around the tensions generated by these two interacting, opposite poles, ultimately creating an unbridgeable comprehension gap.

The West never reconciled itself with the notion that a popular revolution in our contemporary and secular world could have produced a religious, conservative government.

All of a sudden, Iran began to challenge centuries of enlightenment thought. Just as the Soviet Union was entering in its final agony, leading to its collapse a decade later, Iran introduced a new challenge to Western liberal capitalism and secularism.

The problem of ‘Westoxification’
Iran’s society and religious establishment have always nurtured a powerful sensibility against foreign-imposed models. Throughout the 20th century its independent development was thwarted and undermined by the West and its allies, strengthening this view of Iran's relationship with the West as one based on confrontation and hegemonic oppression.

This evolved into a national identity built upon resistance against foreigners, especially Westerners, known as gharbzadegi (a Farsi term meaning "Westoxification"), which blames the fascination with and dependence upon the West for harming traditional, historical and cultural ties to Islam.

It advocates against indiscriminately imitating the West, cited the alleged dangers of moral laxity, social injustice, secularism, devaluation of religion and obsession with money.

Forty years later, to a certain extent, some constituencies of Americans, European populists, and, most of all, Russian and Chinese leaders, now share similar views about the Western liberal system’s shortcomings.

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An Iranian holds up a portrait of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, with a smaller corner portrait of Ayatollah Khomeini, in Tehran on 11 February (AFP)
Ultimately, the sunset of the 20th century and the dawn of the 21st have been indelibly marked by terrorism and its consequences. As eminent British historian Michael Axworthy, who recently and prematurely passed away, brilliantly argued: “After 1979 we can no longer work on the assumption that the history and culture of the Middle East are irrelevant.”

A moral imperative
In the last four decades, Iran has become one of the main challengers to US leadership, through systematic opposition to Washington’s policies and interests in the Middle East.

What the West purports to know about Iran is often misleading or simply false, but Tehran’s policies must be assessed in the proper framework to avoid hasty or inaccurate stereotypes.

Iran’s nuclear ambitions and regional meddling have been a constant source of concern for the US and its European and Arab allies, while for Tehran’s revolutionary leadership, this is a form of forward defence against perceived regime-change projects, apparently nurtured in Washington, Jerusalem and Riyadh.


America Last: Coming to terms with the new world order
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Western pundits have ignored or underestimated the fact that Iran’s policies have also been determined by religious duty, deriving from the reinterpretation of Imam Hussein’s martyrdom at Karbala in 680 CE and the subsequent politicisation of Twelver Shiism promoted by Ali Shariati and Ayatollah Khomeini.

In this framework, the Palestinian question and the historical predicament of Shia communities in many Arab and Islamic countries (Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen and Pakistan) have been framed as forms of oppression and injustice deserving of revolutionary mobilisation.

For Iran, opposition to the Western US-led model and its related policies - considered the main drivers of global oppression and injustice - has become a sort of moral imperative.

So far, it has been surprisingly effective in fuelling the perception of Washington’s decline, through a relentless and successful challenge against the latter’s plans in the Middle East.

The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Eye.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/new-world-order-emerging-replace-us-hegemony
 
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yeah ok

the dogfights we had in iran-iraq war was because of phoenix missile shortage, we don't have the problem anymore.
also even if any dogfight occurs that would be awesome as one of the most maneuverable US fighters ever is f-14:
View attachment 556132
f-14 max turn rate is better than f-16 and f-15, it's stull speed is almost 60 km/h while f-15 is 200 km/h lol.
f-14 maximum angle of attack is 72 deg, while f-15 is almost 25 deg, you can search online f-14 during it's flight tests perform cobra maneuver however at those days US didn't know that she can use it in dogfights and for first time russians used it.
you see how much an f-15 is capable and cool fighter, that compared to an f-14 is a toy.

also based on f-35 RCS number (0.005), an f-14 can detect it from 65 KMs.
What that make different it is about level of technology and carrying modern weapons
 
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When it comes to attacking Iran, NATO and it's allies have the following hurdles to get over:

1. Iran's missile inventory which can be used to target oil facilities, military bases, and of course, cities throughout the region.

2. Anti air defences which may be able to take out a few aircraft.

3. If a war is undertaken, it's quite possible that a much more anti-NATO regime will take power.
 
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When it comes to attacking Iran, NATO and it's allies have the following hurdles to get over:

1. Iran's missile inventory which can be used to target oil facilities, military bases, and of course, cities throughout the region.

2. Anti air defences which may be able to take out a few aircraft.

3. If a war is undertaken, it's quite possible that a much more anti-NATO regime will take power.
If you are saying that many here are overestimating NATO/US willpower and realistic ability to confront Iran militarily OR that any attack on Iran will be difficult, i agree.
 
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If you are saying that many here are overestimating NATO/US willpower and realistic ability to confront Iran militarily OR that any attack on Iran will be difficult, i agree.
As I have pointed out numerous times before, a military operation to cripple Iranian military forces and infrastructure is feasible/attainable goal in short term. However, what would be the excuse for this move? Closure of the Strait of Hormuz is a good one, but Iranian regime might not take the bait.

Existing idea is to choke Iran with crippling sanctions and watch the show.

This is an interesting read: https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-signals-readiness-for-negotiations-with-united-states/29906048.html

Crippling sanctions will surely lead to somewhere. Let us see.
 
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