Artillery gun purchase stalled again

[LEO99]

Wanna stop any IA purchase? Just make some sound that that firm violated rules or kickbacks or the system doesn't work!!! With in days the tender will be canceled and proceeded by a CBI inquiry. So another 7/8 years gone. New RFI? New allegations.

But they will never rectify the bureaucracy itself. [/B

there's an old saying
"once bitten twice shy",
after boforce brawl no party sp cong want to take risk.
they are paranoid even with the name of BOFORCE

 

[Archie]

The Army has reportedly informed the Ministry of Defence and asked it to find a way out as the artillery guns are needed immediately.

Sources said in case the ministry saw an exigency, it could opt to buy the guns directly through the foreign military sales route.

Thats what going to happen in the near future , india has already ordered 145 M777 Light howitzer from us at the cost of 650 Million USD

Since army aurgently requires 400 Howitzers , i can see the MOD placing the order with BAE systems USA , VALUED AT 400 Million USD instead of the 1.6 Billion USD Contract for 1580 Howitzer which was placed in the RFP .
BAE can also be asked to upg our 410 Bofor Guns
This will help in mentaining the artillery , and as recently said by the earstwhile army chief india army will continue to purchase surplus 130 mm and 145mm artillery from russia and other former soviet republic , in order to mentain our artillery strength at 4000 guns these second hand guns will replace old 105mm and 125 mm artillery guns
India might not have purchased new artillery guns since 1987 , but it has purchased over 750 Russian M45/46 guns of 130/145 calibre , and has even upgraded 200 of them to 155 mm , with remaining currently undergoing upg.

I expect india to buy around 350-400 Russian M46 guns in addition to 545 , 155mm guns through FMS route from USA ,
Coz thats what being happening over the yrs , This even happened a few yrs ago when the virtually finalised deal to procure mid air refuellers from Airbus was cancelled , and now we are getting news of Indian MOD considering purchase of Boing mid air refueller through the FMS route
Our defence minister REALLY LIKES THE FMS ROUTE FROM USA , SIMPLY BECOZ THERE IS NO SCOPE OF CORRUPTION , AND NO ONE DARES TO QUESTION THE AMERICAN GOVT

 

[manojb]

WELL WE WILL SO F#$%KED IF CHINA OR PAKISTAN WOULD DECLEAR WAR!!!!

Dont give any ideas dude

 

[d14gtc]

Wanna stop any IA purchase? Just make some sound that that firm violated rules or kickbacks or the system doesn't work!!! With in days the tender will be canceled and proceeded by a CBI inquiry. So another 7/8 years gone. New RFI? New allegations.

But they will never rectify the bureaucracy itself.

Exactly thats wat happpening nvr know when ne fair means ll be incorporated so that nations security atleast shudnt be compromised

 

[Just Yash]

We should start making our own!!!!

We can make nuclear Sub, Aircraft Carrier, can send rocket to moon....BUT CAN'T MAKE ONE SIMPLE FU@KING METAL TUBE WHICH CAN FIRE BIG BULLETS!!!!!!!!

simply ridicules

 

[blain2]

WELL WE WILL SO F#$%KED IF CHINA OR PAKISTAN WOULD DECLEAR WAR!!!!

We wont. There is no reason for Pakistan or China to do such things.

 

[Iggy]

We should start making our own!!!!

We can make nuclear Sub, Aircraft Carrier, can send rocket to moon....BUT CAN'T MAKE ONE SIMPLE FU@KING METAL TUBE WHICH CAN FIRE BIG BULLETS!!!!!!!!

simply ridicules

I just loved the way you define an artillery gun mate

 

[blain2]

We should start making our own!!!!

We can make nuclear Sub, Aircraft Carrier, can send rocket to moon....BUT CAN'T MAKE ONE SIMPLE FU@KING METAL TUBE WHICH CAN FIRE BIG BULLETS!!!!!!!!

simply ridicules

Making artillery tubes is no easy task. It requires extensive expertise in metallurgy which is currently absent in South Asia at least.

 

[Super Falcon]

welll dont know what is going on in other hand india is buying billions of dollars as they buying toys and at this hand they are not sure what to buy of some millions

 

[Indian-Devil]

Its really very disappointing scene created by IA . If condition of firing Indian made ammuniation was not there in requirement list or if it was there then why they invitedST Kinetics for field trials , who already delayed this contract by 4 months by stating Gun met with accident while loading to AC, and they now they cant fire Indian ammuniations.
What the hell ST Kinetics is doing here, it would be better to negotiate a good price and have ToT and start manufacturing BAE guns here.

 

[Kinetic]

We wont. There is no reason for Pakistan or China to do such things.

dude we still have more artillery than Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

dude we still have more artillery than Pakistan.

Yup ur 100% correct... the problem is its useless n mostly outdated n phased out.

 

[Kinetic]

Yup ur 100% correct... the problem is its useless n mostly outdated n phased out.

They are not useless!!! They can fire and destroy enemy, thats enough. But we are talking about new purchases required by the IA. It has different requirements than PA.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They are not useless!!! They can fire and destroy enemy, thats enough. But we are talking about new purchases required by the IA. It has different requirements than PA.

Can u give details abt the present arty systems in indian army?
And the shoot n destroy arguement is retarded,... by tht arguement a revolver can be compaired to a M-4... which is retarded.

 

[Kinetic]

Can u give details abt the present arty systems in indian army?
And the shoot n destroy arguement is retarded,... by tht arguement a revolver can be compaired to a M-4... which is retarded.

Thats strange!!! I was replying to blan2's post that IA has more artillery than Pakistan but you came up with some theory. IA's current inventory are enough to fight Pakistan. Now why I should post about Indian artillery systems? You just go and google it!!!

Isn't you the same one passing comment that IA don't have any SPG? lol