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You are correct, even their perception of Vedic deities is extremely different from that of the Hindus.Kalasha people's language is directly descended from rigvedic Sanskrit but their indigenous unadulterated religion hardly shares more than "few" aspects with modern Gangu religion of Hindusim originated in Ganga valley. Modern Hiduism is a mixture of the religion of the ancestors of Kalasha Sanskrit speakers and the aboriginal religions of Gangu people in Ganga valley.
The ORIGINAL Vedic religion formed in the Indus Region from the merging of Aryan and Harrapan religions/beliefs. This religion was contradictory to Hinduism as they were against idol worship, did not follow the caste system, ate meat, and had a separate pantheon. Their social structure would have also been nearly identical to the Biradari system we follow today.
One of these Vedic tribes (Bharatas) were eventually forced to migrate into North India after the Battle of the Ten Kings (as recorded in the Rigvedic), this tribe would go onto conquer the Ganges Region and imposed racial hierarchy through the Varna (caste) system. The mixing of the late Vedic and Gangetic religions/practices would give way to Brahmanism, the predecessor of Hinduism.
Vedism contradicts Hinduism in so many ways, they are completely different and distinct religions. No doubt, Hindusim adopted Rig Vedic dieties (though they are significantly different from what was originally portrayed), that does not mean they are the same. Likewise, Vedism and many native Iranic Religions also share the same deities, that does not mean they are the same.haha there is no ancient or modern Hinduism. The Rig Vedic dieties are still venerated in Hinduism in rituals, that also include Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva then incarnations of them.
You build idols and temples for these deities, the Vedic people worshiped on open ground and forbade idolatry.
That is a Gandharan statue, among countless other statues which depict similar attire of robes, bangles, arm rings, ornament necklaces, which is identical to what many Pakistani Sufis wear today.haha that's not Gandharan buddhist. If a robe is the only connection you can find then might as well as add Gautama Buddha who wore a similar robe.
The only major difference is the turban and the facial hair, which can be explained by cultural changes during the later Kushan period which saw beards return to commonality (popularity of having a shaved face was introduced by the Greeks) and the rise of wrapped turbans as opposed to the early ingrained turbans of the Gandharans. During this time, forehead markings also fell out of use. Even some depictions of Buddha during this period, show him with a beard.
It was one of many clothing varieties that existed in modern-day Pakistan and continue to be worn by those who still cling on to the "old ways". Less exquisite and simple clothing (wrapped robes), such as those depicted on the statues of Buddha are also worn by many Pakistani Sufis to this day.That's a mystic figure. It can't be compared to the clothing of that time, which is the point I was making. I'm not talking about the place of origin of those statues. Buddhist at the time do not give much credit to ornaments. But they put Bodhisatva/Rimpoche in elaborate dressing and styles.
What part did you not get of him being blue-eyed, light skinned and having reddish/brown hair in Buddhist sources?Wiki didn't contradict, wiki said what it is, there are two reports on his place of origin. One is that he is from Central Asia and another that he is from South Asia. But all the sources are Chinese and Japanese which were written after his death.
The pictorial representations also do not substantiate as Chinese and Japanese have habbit of drawing eye so big that they look like eyeballing someone. (Apparently big eyes are represented as such)
Bodhidharma
No where does these sources say that he came from Central Asia (at-least in the modern-day definition), do not rely on Wikipedia. The Buddhist Sources simply connect his origins to the "Western Regions"; which included Shendu (Indus Region; including Gandhara), Central Asia and Eastern Persia. Since Gandhara was the capital of Buddhism in the region and has provided many other Buddhist scholars before, it is considered the prime candidate for his origins among the academics.