Article 370 is India’s internal issue: Bangladesh

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

What R we doing in Kashmir,for the last 70 years there is no development,it was ruled by the same 3 families all the years .now investment will come in and people will have development and jobs .
There was no army in Kashmir prior to 89 .only after terrorism started army moved on .you cannot hold the whole state hostage for few in the valley.all the unrest or stone pelters you see are from some pockets in the valley rest of the state has been peaceful.

You know, what india did with Kashmiris is an act of aggression against Muslims! In my pov and understanding of Fiqh, under Islamic Fiqh Kashmiris now has legitimate ground to declare Jihad against India. (You can ask more knowledgeable person)

So, NO there will not be any peace, separatism will only increase...

And muslims never lost a legitimate Jihad...

 

[CHACHA"G"]

I don't know what to believe and what not too ……. Ummah is lost !!! Where ? I don't know !!

Did you really believe so??? I mean are you sure... that there is something left called ummah ???

Their are only 2 solutions to Kashmir ..

1. A peaceful one , Pakistan get 100% Valley with all Muslim majority areas of Ladkah (about 30% to 40% ) rest of Ladkah go ti India and 50% of Jammu comes to Pakistan , rest go to India.. (I know this is only my wish and will never going to happen).
2. WAR for Full Kashmir ……….. 2nd option is war ,, way better then dying with thrust and water shortage in future after india building dams in IOK (after 370 gone)..

Sir, our elite don't have courage for any of above ….. we don't want war or we cant fight one (may be because we are puzzies) .. Kashmir is in lockdown from last 20 days.. We Pakistanis are only doing chit-chat .. One day will come when Kashmiris will give away( when the realize Pakistanis already )….
Quid-E-Azam said Kashmir is Life line of Pakistan ……. And india is cutting it very slowly and painfully and we are only making noises .. Thanks a lot..

Keeping all emotions aside for while .... and calling yourself a P***y .... what is the solution in your head? what do u practically suggest as the way forward ?

 

[Adios Amigo]

I don't know what to believe and what not too ……. Ummah is lost !!! Where ? I don't know !!

Ahan .... Let me know when u find out the last time the concept of ummah was solidly in place.... A functional entity ... that stood as one!

Their are only 2 solutions to Kashmir ..

1. A peaceful one , Pakistan get 100% Valley with all Muslim majority areas of Ladkah (about 30% to 40% ) rest of Ladkah go ti India and 50% of Jammu comes to Pakistan , rest go to India.. (I know this is only my wish and will never going to happen).
2. WAR for Full Kashmir ……….. 2nd option is war ,, way better then dying with thrust and water shortage in future after india building dams in IOK (after 370 gone)..

Sir, our elite don't have courage for any of above ….. we don't want war or we cant fight one (may be because we are puzzies) .. Kashmir is in lockdown from last 20 days.. We Pakistanis are only doing chit-chat .. One day will come when Kashmiris will give away( when the realize Pakistanis already )….
Quid-E-Azam said Kashmir is Life line of Pakistan ……. And india is cutting it very slowly and painfully and we are only making noises .. Thanks a lot..

My naive countryman .... Indeed a lot of wishful thinking and naivety shown from your good self.... non of these options are as simple and exercise-able at current position in time.... Wars are no games.... they are worked for... thought for ... planned for ..... and then executed .....yet often with results not hoped for..... empires have lost and got destroyed because of the simplest of battles they thought of as would be walkover for them.... u can just look in the recent past for plenty of such examples.... what happened to the mighty nazi germany? what happened to the US in vietnam....To USSR in Afghanistan? To US and allies in Afghanistan? So many more examples? and you would agree these countries were much bigger powers then what we are.... and much weaker enemy/adversary then what we have ... well in most cases ..... this gives us plenty of lessons to learn from... only if we are wise and smart enough...
what you are calling noise making..... is actually called Building a narrative..... which unfortunately our strategy makers nd decision makers never understood..... on the other hand your adversary understood the importance of it.... for the past 20 years they worked on building a narrative against you and got more then successful in that ... they practically got you labeled as terrorists ... where the ground reality is you as country suffered the most, paid the most and lost and sacrificed the most then any other country in war against terror .... yet you were labeled as terrorist .... yet the world failed to acknowledge your efforts and sacrifices.... rather held u responsible for every damn sh!t that ever happened in any part of the world ..... have you ever pondered why was so ????? When the mumbai incident took place .... public sentiments were very high in india.... if it would have attacked Pakistan then ... no one would have objected it ..... you stood alone at that time..... but rather then attacking you directly .... India took a more wise path .... on one hand it played the victim but on the other held you responsible for all of it.... the incumbent government here was to bloody inapt to fathom their strategy and take appropriate measures to respond .... they decided to bleed you from inside and outside and that too for long.... and they did... as a result the people of this country bled for years and years.... and no one had an iota of sympathy for them.... they were simply labeled terrorists..... the counter narrative was never in place .... on diplomatic front every country that matters was buying their narrative and practically stood with them except for china(that too for their own reasons).... top that off with the economic disparity of both the countries... and Volla... you did not even find a position to stand.... the world simply didn't trust you...even the people of this country got in so disbelief that self -doubt was the only talk of the town.....
then again in Feb 2019.... whatever pulwama was (nd yes i have no doubts it was staged).... india and pakistan stood on the same crossroads..... this time india took the other path.... and thankfully provided us the opportunity in decades to bring the down the vial of its true and ugly face.... our gov and military took the right steps and in measured and calculated way.... we held our own with dignity and pride....and yet able to turn the narrative around.... the PM took charge of the events happening by the days and by the hours.... his multiple addresses were not only directed to the nation ... but also to the enemy ... and also taking the International community into confidence.... showing our position and theirs .... nd whatever happened on 27th and our subsequent actions .... give us a high moral ground which the international community recognized.... and there stood india with no face and no case .... just lies and propaganda to tell its masses for consumption.... Local politics aside ... I honestly did never believe that current setup will perform so good... for the first times in decades it was a breath of fresh air....
Kashmir issue was long dead ... thanks to our sh!t heads political lot ... by making an international issue as a bilateral one ..... but thankfully to india ... in their greed they have made it again an international one.... this time they have given us an opportunity to build a narrative.... a true one.. a harsh one and the one which would damage them more then can counter for.... the current setup is taking the right steps ....keep building it ... hit on all the doors... the foreign office and all its missions are doing a fine a job so far ... they need to expedite it ... get the issue to all the forums ... and thankfully the gov is thinking in that directions ... unveil the wrong doings of Indian occupied forces in kashmir ... the world media ... the major media outlets are doing a great job this time.... And for sure India is feeling alot of heat... both Internally from kashmir and as well as externally(the recent UN saga is a testament to that) ... we just need to turn the knob too the fullest..... This will go a long way.... and will for surely help the cause more then a bullet .... we want a peaceful settlement ....and if it may not be so..... then whatever the destiny(war) is ... it still will favor us alot.... if its done the proper way.... the comity of nations will be in our support .... or to say the least not against us... meanwhile it would also give us time to work for... think for ... plan for ..... and then execute .....the war ....if it has to be... on our terms ... our time of choosing ..... and not the enemy's ... which would love you to jump in right now and play on their terms...
so hold on your nerves.... Kashmir kahin bhaga nahi ja raha .... it was under their control already .... and they are more in pain then us with the current blunder ....

 

[Rollno21]

You know, what india did with Kashmiris is an act of aggression against Muslims! In my pov and understanding of Fiqh, under Islamic Fiqh Kashmiris now has legitimate ground to declare Jihad against India. (You can ask more knowledgeable person)

So, NO there will not be any peace, separatism will only increase...

And muslims never lost a legitimate Jihad...

Bringing development to an undeveloped state ,jobs to people and hoping to provide better living standards to people is aggression for you.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Thanks to Mujib, Mukti Bahini etc, BD herself is India’s internal issue!!!!

 

[Ali Tariq]

Ahan .... Let me know when u find out the last time the concept of ummah was solidly in place.... A functional entity ... that stood as one!


My naive countryman .... Indeed a lot of wishful thinking and naivety shown from your good self.... non of these options are as simple and exercise-able at current position in time.... Wars are no games.... they are worked for... thought for ... planned for ..... and then executed .....yet often with results not hoped for..... empires have lost and got destroyed because of the simplest of battles they thought of as would be walkover for them.... u can just look in the recent past for plenty of such examples.... what happened to the mighty nazi germany? what happened to the US in vietnam....To USSR in Afghanistan? To US and allies in Afghanistan? So many more examples? and you would agree these countries were much bigger powers then what we are.... and much weaker enemy/adversary then what we have ... well in most cases ..... this gives us plenty of lessons to learn from... only if we are wise and smart enough...
what you are calling noise making..... is actually called Building a narrative..... which unfortunately our strategy makers nd decision makers never understood..... on the other hand your adversary understood the importance of it.... for the past 20 years they worked on building a narrative against you and got more then successful in that ... they practically got you labeled as terrorists ... where the ground reality is you as country suffered the most, paid the most and lost and sacrificed the most then any other country in war against terror .... yet you were labeled as terrorist .... yet the world failed to acknowledge your efforts and sacrifices.... rather held u responsible for every damn sh!t that ever happened in any part of the world ..... have ever pondered why was so ????? When the mumbai incident took place .... public sentiments were very high in india.... if it would have attacked Pakistan then ... no one would have objected it ..... you stood alone at that time..... but rather then attacking you directly .... India took a more wise path .... on one hand it played the victim but on the other held you responsible for all of it.... the incumbent government here was to bloody inapt to fathom their strategy and take appropriate measures to respond .... they decided to bleed you from inside and outside and that too for long.... and they did... as a result the people of this country bled for years and years.... and no one had an iota of sympathy for them.... they were simply labeled terrorists..... the counter narrative was never in place .... on diplomatic front every country that matters was buying their narrative and practically stood with them except for china(that too for their own reasons).... top that off with the economic disparity of both the countries... and Volla... you did not even find a position to stand.... the world simply didn't trust you...even the people of this country got in so disbelief that self -doubt was the only talk of the town.....
then again Feb 2019.... whatever pulwama was (nd yes i have no doubts it was staged).... india and pakistan stood on the same crossroads..... this time india took the other path.... and thankfully provided us the opportunity in decades to bring the down the vial of its true and ugly face.... our gov and military took the right steps and in measured and calculated way.... we held our own with dignity and pride....and yet able to turn the narrative around.... the PM took charge of the events happening by the days and by the hours.... his multiple addresses were not only directed to the nation ... but also to the enemy ... and also taking the International community into confidence.... showing our position and theirs .... nd whatever happened on 27th and our subsequent actions .... give us a high moral ground which the international community recognized.... and there stood india with no face and no case .... just lies and propaganda to tell its masses for consumption.... Local politics aside ... I honestly did never believe that current setup will perform so good... for the first times in decades it was a breath of fresh air....
Kashmir issue was long dead ... thanks to our sh!t heads political lot ... by making an international issue as a bilateral one ..... but thankfully to india ... in their greed they have made it again an international one.... this time they have given us an opportunity to build a narrative.... a true one.. a harsh one and the one which would damage them more then can counter for.... the current setup is taking the right steps ....keep building it ... hit on all the doors... the foreign office and all its missions are doing a fine a job so far ... they need to expedite it ... get the issue to all the forums ... and thankfully the gov is thinking in that directions ... unveil the wrong doings of Indian occupied forces in kashmir ... the world media ... the major media outlets are doing a great job this time.... And for sure India is feeling alot of heat... both Internally from kashmir and as well as externally(the recent UN saga is a testament to that) ... we just need to turn the knob too the fullest..... This will go a long way.... and will for surely help the cause more then a bullet .... we want a peaceful settlement ....and if it may not be so..... then whatever the destiny(war) is ... it still will favor us alot.... if its done the proper way.... the comity of nations will be in our support .... or to say the least not against us... meanwhile it would also give us time to work for... think for ... plan for ..... and then execute .....the war ....if it has to be... on our terms ... our time of choosing ..... and not the enemy's ... which would love you to jump in right now and play on their terms...
so hold on your nerves.... Kashmir kahin bhaga nahi ja raha .... it was under their control already .... and they are more in pain then us with the current blunder ....

Thanks for such a detailed and nice post, Sir..!

 

[VikingRaider]

Thanks to Mujib, Mukti Bahini etc, BD herself is India’s internal issue!!!! And, the traitors in BD have voluntarily submitted themselves to their Hindu Gods....

What's up sultan! Long time no see my lord! Need some Turkish lesson master? Please use Google translation from urdu to Turkish! It's the best way!

@Hakikat ve Hikmet sire!!!

 

[Super Falcon]

Yes you are right. And in this selling and bedding procedure, UAE acted as pimp. But you are blaming the witch (as you claim) only , but remain silent about the case of pimp. Because you are either international punters or also have something to sell via the pimps.
How hypocrites you are!


Yes sanghi written history where they claim that once Siberia was part of India,so was pre Islamic Arab! Do you want me to read such history?

Im not a hypocratic who ever is against right is wrong as simple as this

 

[bluesky]

Lol even Bangladesh is more internal issue of India then Kashmir

Yet, the Indian FM rightfully said in Dhaka that the Assamese Muslims are an internal matter of India and it is not a bilateral issue between BD and India. So, Assam Muslims and Kashmir should be seen from two different angles. You must recover Kashmir to make it a bilateral issue because India will protest it. But, you are going to the World Court after the issue was rejected by the UNSC.

It seems the Afghan Taliban has no interest in Kashmir. It is busy to kill people in the wedding party of Shia Muslims that killed more than fifty with the help of ISIS. I do not think a country that derives its power from the Taliban and ISIS will ever get western support in the UNSC.

BD should support the Kashmiris' right to self-determination but should not support a country that supports those two groups.

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

Bringing development to an undeveloped state ,jobs to people and hoping to provide better living standards to people is aggression for you.

LOL, thats what you say. It isn't the reality...

At first try to bring better living standards in Indian states like Bihar and Assam, then think and talk about Kashmir!

 

[Rollno21]

LOL, thats what you say. It isn't the reality...

At first try to bring better living standards in Indian states like Bihar and Assam, then think and talk about Kashmir!

When you have limited resources you don't feed one fully and then go for other states,you distribute proportionately.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Bringing development to an undeveloped state ,jobs to people and hoping to provide better living standards to people is aggression for you.

If these plans will be so great for the Kashmiris why don't you give them a referendum to decide for themselves instead of imposing this on them? Then you will even have some legitimacy for your actions!

 

[Rollno21]

If these plans will be so great for the Kashmiris why don't you give them a referendum to decide for themselves instead of imposing this on them? Then you will even have some legitimacy for your actions!

You cannot allow few pockets in valley to hold the whole state hostage.Apart from some pockets. In the valley rest of the state is peaceful.even today other by parts are peaceful.
You guys think the whole state of J and K is locked down .it's not

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

You cannot allow few pockets in valley to hold the whole state hostage.Apart from some pockets. In the valley rest of the state is peaceful.even today other by parts are peaceful.
You guys think the whole state of J and K is locked down .it's not

So why not a referendum for all of Jammu and Kashmir to decide their future? If it will be so great for them like you say then why would India not pursue such a logical path to achieve legitimacy for their annexation of the occupied territories?

 

[UKBengali]

So why not a referendum for all of Jammu and Kashmir to decide their future? If it will be so great for them like you say then why would India not pursue such a logical path to achieve legitimacy for their annexation of the occupied territories?

@Rollno21