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Army raises alarm over rising accidents due to faulty ammunition
Tuesday, May 14, 2019
By: TNN


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Highlights
  • The Army has raised the alarm over the poor quality of ammunition being supplied by the staterun Ordnance Factory Board
  • The Army has told the defence ministry (MoD) that the spike in ammunition-related accidents is causing "fatalities, injuries and damage to equipment" at an alarming rate
NEW DELHI: The Army has sounded the alarm over the unacceptably high number of accidents taking place in the field due to the poor and defective quality of ammunition being supplied for tanks, artillery, air defence and other guns by the state-owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB)


The Army has told the defence ministry (MoD) that the spike in ammunition-related accidents is causing “fatalities, injuries and damage to equipment” at an alarming rate. This, in turn, is “leading to the Army’s loss of confidence in most types of ammunition” being manufactured by OFB, said sources.

MoD sources said the Army has raised with Secretary (Defence Production), Ajay Kumar, the “serious concerns” about the lack of requisite “quality control and quality assurance” by OFB, which with 41 factories and an annual turnover of about Rs 19,000 crore is the main source of supply of arms and ammunition to the over 12-lakh strong force. “Any drop in the quality of OFB products has major operational ramifications on the country’s war-waging potential,” said a source.

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The red alert has led to “an urgent collaborative effort” between the Army and MoD’s department of defence production to improve the functioning of OFB, with Kumar also asking the force to submit “a paper” about different problems with the ammunition.

The 15-page paper presents an extremely grim picture. It says “regular accidents” are occurring with 105mm Indian field guns, 105mm light field guns, 130mm MA1 medium guns, 40mm L-70 air defence guns as well as the main guns of the T-72, T-90 and Arjun main-battle tanks, with some “isolated cases” also being reported from the 155mm Bofors guns, due to defective ammunition.

“With the OFB’s piecemeal and poor approach in problem-solving, the Army has stopped firing some types of long-range ammunition, while also refraining from not testing some others to their maximum ranges. There have been, for instance, over 40 accidents of the 125mm high explosive ammunition fired by tanks in the last five years,” said a source.

Similarly, the Army has stopped “all training firing” of the 40mm high explosive ammunition by the L-70 air defence guns after the latest accident in February, in which an officer and four soldiers were seriously injured at the Mahajan field firing range. “The entire range of the L-70 high explosive ammunition held by the Army is now suspect,” said another source.

Moreover, a large quantum of OFB ammunition has also been found defective during their shelf-lives due to poor quality control. “Blackening of ammunition of small arms and heavy-caliber ammunition due to poor metallurgy and packaging is also a major problem,” said the source.

American officials, incidentally, had also blamed OFB ammunition after the muzzle of a new M-777 ultra-light howitzer had broken during tests at the Pokhran field firing ranges in September 2017 before the Army began the induction of 145 such artillery guns from the US under a Rs 5,000 crore deal. “A joint team had later scientifically traced the problem to a particular lot of bi-modular charge system ammunition…it was addressed. But the overall problems remain,” he added.


OFB’s defence ::

The OFB, on being contacted by TOI, said ammunition is supplied to Army only after stringent inspection by the factory’s quality control department as well as the DGQA (directorate general of quality assurance). An ammo batch is issued only after it passes extensive tests, ranging from “all input material” being tested in designated labs to “100% dimensional checking” in the factory, said an official.

Some defects or accidents, however, do sometimes occur during “bulk exploitation” of the ammunition by the Army. “The important reasons can be manufacturing deficiencies, improper handling and storage in ammo depots, improper maintenance of weapon systems, and improper handling of ammo and weapons during firings,” he said.

“The OFB is not aware of the storage/handling/maintenance conditions at the Army’s end, which are equally responsible for defects/accidents.” The OFB has implemented recommendations of seven committees but “the drills and condition of weapons were never investigated,” he said.
 
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Army raises alarm over rising accidents due to faulty ammunition
Tuesday, May 14, 2019
By: TNN


  • 3_img114519090645.jpg

Highlights
  • The Army has raised the alarm over the poor quality of ammunition being supplied by the staterun Ordnance Factory Board
  • The Army has told the defence ministry (MoD) that the spike in ammunition-related accidents is causing "fatalities, injuries and damage to equipment" at an alarming rate
NEW DELHI: The Army has sounded the alarm over the unacceptably high number of accidents taking place in the field due to the poor and defective quality of ammunition being supplied for tanks, artillery, air defence and other guns by the state-owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB)


The Army has told the defence ministry (MoD) that the spike in ammunition-related accidents is causing “fatalities, injuries and damage to equipment” at an alarming rate. This, in turn, is “leading to the Army’s loss of confidence in most types of ammunition” being manufactured by OFB, said sources.

MoD sources said the Army has raised with Secretary (Defence Production), Ajay Kumar, the “serious concerns” about the lack of requisite “quality control and quality assurance” by OFB, which with 41 factories and an annual turnover of about Rs 19,000 crore is the main source of supply of arms and ammunition to the over 12-lakh strong force. “Any drop in the quality of OFB products has major operational ramifications on the country’s war-waging potential,” said a source.

69315862.jpg


The red alert has led to “an urgent collaborative effort” between the Army and MoD’s department of defence production to improve the functioning of OFB, with Kumar also asking the force to submit “a paper” about different problems with the ammunition.

The 15-page paper presents an extremely grim picture. It says “regular accidents” are occurring with 105mm Indian field guns, 105mm light field guns, 130mm MA1 medium guns, 40mm L-70 air defence guns as well as the main guns of the T-72, T-90 and Arjun main-battle tanks, with some “isolated cases” also being reported from the 155mm Bofors guns, due to defective ammunition.

“With the OFB’s piecemeal and poor approach in problem-solving, the Army has stopped firing some types of long-range ammunition, while also refraining from not testing some others to their maximum ranges. There have been, for instance, over 40 accidents of the 125mm high explosive ammunition fired by tanks in the last five years,” said a source.

Similarly, the Army has stopped “all training firing” of the 40mm high explosive ammunition by the L-70 air defence guns after the latest accident in February, in which an officer and four soldiers were seriously injured at the Mahajan field firing range. “The entire range of the L-70 high explosive ammunition held by the Army is now suspect,” said another source.

Moreover, a large quantum of OFB ammunition has also been found defective during their shelf-lives due to poor quality control. “Blackening of ammunition of small arms and heavy-caliber ammunition due to poor metallurgy and packaging is also a major problem,” said the source.

American officials, incidentally, had also blamed OFB ammunition after the muzzle of a new M-777 ultra-light howitzer had broken during tests at the Pokhran field firing ranges in September 2017 before the Army began the induction of 145 such artillery guns from the US under a Rs 5,000 crore deal. “A joint team had later scientifically traced the problem to a particular lot of bi-modular charge system ammunition…it was addressed. But the overall problems remain,” he added.


OFB’s defence ::

The OFB, on being contacted by TOI, said ammunition is supplied to Army only after stringent inspection by the factory’s quality control department as well as the DGQA (directorate general of quality assurance). An ammo batch is issued only after it passes extensive tests, ranging from “all input material” being tested in designated labs to “100% dimensional checking” in the factory, said an official.

Some defects or accidents, however, do sometimes occur during “bulk exploitation” of the ammunition by the Army. “The important reasons can be manufacturing deficiencies, improper handling and storage in ammo depots, improper maintenance of weapon systems, and improper handling of ammo and weapons during firings,” he said.

“The OFB is not aware of the storage/handling/maintenance conditions at the Army’s end, which are equally responsible for defects/accidents.” The OFB has implemented recommendations of seven committees but “the drills and condition of weapons were never investigated,” he said.

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
 
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Corruption inko marwa dale ge

Bhot Zeada Corruption hay yar Bharti Military mein. Jahan Corruption haad say guzar jayee, wahan yehi hotaa hay. and Modi Sarkar ko kya parwaa? Ghareeb Bharti Fouji hi mara jayee ga!
 
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Bhot Zeada Corruption hay yar Bharti Military mein. Jahan Corruption haad say guzar jayee, wahan yehi hotaa hay. and Modi Sarkar ko kya parwaa? Ghareeb Bharti Fouji hi mara jayee ga!
Bhai isi se to inki siasat chale ge jawano ki mot pe siasat krne wale he yeh log
 
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Not a big deal as OFB will soon deliver 1 million new 40mm rounds (90,000 per month) to replace older stock
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Also army fires around 40-50000 tank rounds every year at the very least, so 40 failures in 4 years out of 200,000 fired means a failure rate of only 0.02%.
Very small.
 
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Poor souls, they are getting killed by both Pakistani fire and their own faulty ammunition.
And the clouds are too high to provide cover. :laugh:

Reminds me of this incident from last year

BSF jawan killed while retaliating to Pak ceasefire violation


BSF constable Nitin Subhash sustained grievous injuries last evening when an explosion inside the chamber of the long range weapon led to a recoil while he was firing in retaliation to ceasefire violation from across the LoC, BSF IG (Kashmir) Vikash Chandra said.

"Subhash was injured due to recoil and was admitted to a medical facility where he succumbed late last night," the official said.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...iolation-by-pakistan/articleshow/55127136.cms
 
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Pakistanis should worry about corruption in their own country.... you have a lot bigger issues than focussing on teaching Indians about their problems and I see we are no position to lecture others while our country is taking loans from all sides, corruption is rampant from top to bottom and worst of all, the system is dysfunctional.
 
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Their is no concept of secrecy in our country. Everything is in the public domain for discussion it seems. While it's good to keep the non performers on their toes, it also unnecessarily gives away our weak points to the opponents. Defence matters are not discussed so lightly in any other country
 
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