Army on Terrorism

Army on terrorism

A FRESH tide of terrorism across the country has prompted the military leadership to deliberate on this critical...

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[Goritoes]

you are entitled to your opinion my brother. Let’s see what happens in coming days, weeks, months

Bhai America mai beth ker PDF mai bachian dekhne tu ate nai hai, Country ki fikr hai isi liye itna gussa ata hai halaat dekh ker, lets hope that the Army has a plan or two up their sleeves.

 

[Dalit]

PA is too much busy in confronting IK and PTI, and protecting criminal mafias of Pakistan.

They will pay a heavy price.

 

[White privilege]

An administrative and political solution is required where Govt convenes an effective setup of its departments to run FATA and Baluchistan efficiently. A military operation is not the only solution.

I am afraid Gen. Asim Munir finds himself where Raheel Sharif found himself, although the threat level is not the same but still kicking. Surrounded by civil red tape and unwillingness due to political reasons. Eventually this country would need martial law to actually go back to where it was before WOT. This abomination of civil supremacy has only led to slipping of blood earned gains.

 

[Path-Finder]

you are entitled to your opinion my brother. Let’s see what happens in coming days, weeks, months

I have negative faith in the military. because its lost its way and its now nothing more than a guild of egomaniacs. so coming days means low level sepoy will die at a great numbers as always and top brass is busy stopping IK.

 

[Signalian]

I am afraid Gen. Asim Munir finds himself where Raheel Sharif found himself, although the threat level is not the same but still kicking. Surrounded by civil red tape and unwillingness due to political reasons. Eventually this country would need martial law to actually go back to where it was before WOT. This abomination of civil supremacy has only led to slipping of blood earned gains.

Please don’t talk about martial law. There has to be another solution.

 

[R Wing]

An administrative and political solution is required where Govt convenes an effective setup of its departments to run FATA and Baluchistan efficiently. A military operation is not the only solution.

It's nice when we can finally agree on something

The issue is about both deterrence and governance. Better governance at home, deterring the backers of terrorist movements abroad.

One of the biggest failures in recent decades has been the ISI's inability to meaningfully raise the cost for hostile intelligence agencies and their governments. India knows that India-backed groups can carry out several attacks in Pakistan (low intensity) and India will not suffer a single retaliatory attack through Pak-backed proxies. Admittedly, things became difficult for our offensive/kinetic intel since India benefitted from US backing, but we failed to innovate, get better talent in, raise our standards. One DG after another neglected this key element of stability.

 

[Vapnope]

No Suicide attack taking place , no major attack happened since the last 2 years

2019 Data darbar suicide attack - Fatalities 13
2019 Baluchistan suicide attack - Fatalities 21
2019 Dera Ismail Khan kpk suicide attack in hospital - Fatalities 7
2021 Dasu dam suicide attack - Fatalities 12
2021 Chamman bombing - Fatalities 11

Pakistan bombing kills dozens in Shia mosque in Peshawar

A bombing inside a Shia mosque in the city of Peshawar kills more than 50 people and wounds many more.

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What is your definition of "No suicide attack and no major attack" !

 

[Riz]

2019 Data darbar suicide attack - Fatalities 13
2019 Baluchistan suicide attack - Fatalities 21
2019 Dera Ismail Khan kpk suicide attack in hospital - Fatalities 7
2021 Dasu dam suicide attack - Fatalities 12
2021 Chamman bombing - Fatalities 11

Pakistan bombing kills dozens in Shia mosque in Peshawar

A bombing inside a Shia mosque in the city of Peshawar kills more than 50 people and wounds many more.

www.bbc.com

What is your definition of "No suicide attack and no major attack" !

Dassu dam attack was not carried out by TTP , chamman bombing carried out by IEA
Even your own data shows from 2020 to 2022 situation remained normal

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Innocent Pakistanis and brave soliders will be targetted.

 

[White privilege]

Please don’t talk about martial law. There has to be another solution.

This country hasn't seen true martial law. Only generals who overtime allied themselves with politicians to kick the can down the road, and not really solve the core issues. I think the Army itself does not know how to impose true Martial Law, nationwide with true iron hands, across all the machinery of state.But 'asking' these crooks politely to course correct won't do jack either. Raheel threatened to steamroll them, still here they are, like a curse.

 

[Vapnope]

Dassu dam attack was not carried out by TTP , chamman bombing carried out by IEA
Even your own data shows from 2020 to 2022 situation remained normal

Changing the goal posts. You said no suicide attack and no major attack. I haven't even posted all of the data.

 

[truthseeker2010]

Let’s see what happens in coming days, weeks, months

Nothing but blood and bodies.

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How going going from 136 incidents to 354 indicates "TTP attack didn't happen in Khan era" ?

That shows the performance of so called best army and dumber no 1 intel agency.

 

[RescueRanger]

Nothing but blood and bodies.



That shows the performance of so called best army and dumber no 1 intel agency.

Thank you for your input.

 

[Signalian]

Before a military/COIN operation starts in a specific region, a following questionnaire should have complete answers to give an over all thinking of the local population so the priorities can be shifted for a suitable outcome in the region and success in the operations. This covers major topics which are an integral part of any culture.

I am guessing that replies from all three regions will be different (KPK minus FATA, FATA itself and Balochistan)

History
• What are the major wars, massacres, and conflicts that shaped the culture?
• What are some of the great leaders, heroes, or legends in the nation's history?
• What are some of the villains (infamous) people in the nation's history?
• Who founded the country? Who brought it to its modern form?
• What are some of the significant eras, generations or major shifts in a nation that are significant?

Language
• What are the common languages or dialects spoken?
• Standard words and phrases universal in all cultures (formal and informal):
 Assalam o Alaikum
 Khuda hafiz
 Please
 Thank you
 You're welcome
 How are you?
 May I help you?
• Common sayings in a culture, for example, "InshALLAH" or "MashALLAH"
• "Excuse me" or "Pardon me."
• Gatherings with appropriate beverages, such as tea or coffee, are sociable.
• Grace or well wishes (for food)—meals are sociable.
• What are the common sayings, clichés, or slang?
• What is customary during greeting and departing (shake hands, kiss, and bowing)?

Geography

• What typically defines a community or neighborhoods, for example, economic, ethnic, tribal, religious, or political traits
• Where are the neighborhood boundaries?
• Where do new arrivals, immigrants, workers, and IDPs typically come from? Why did they migrate here? Is the migration seasonal, temporary, or permanent?
• What are the most significant local natural and man-made landmarks and structures (religious, historical, cultural, etc)?

Religion
• What are the main religions? Is there an official religion?
• What are important religious events and holidays?
• What is the role of religious leaders within the society?
• What is traditional for funerals and mourning?
• Are there any tensions in the nation due to religious differences?
• What are the tenets of the main religions?

Communications
• How do people communicate?
• How do the people receive information? Radio, TV, newspaper, meetings, word of mouth)?
• Where do the people usually gather? Bars, tea or coffee shops, cafes, or markets?
• Where do people socialize or congregate randomly in previously unrecognized manners, for example, wait in long lines, for day labor, in traffic, or at sporting events and tournaments)?
• Who are the principal communicators within the local community?

Political Science
• How do people view the role of the Host Nation government?
• What are the roles of and how important are civilian (nongovernmental) community leaders?
• What are the major political parties?
• Is the local government effective? Why or why not?
• What civil and human rights do the populace hold most sacred?
• Is the government secular or religious?
• Does the country have a constitution, document, guideline that lays out the role of government, rights of the people, and laws?

Military Arts and Science
• How respected is military service in the culture? How are veterans treated?
• Who are some of the famous military leaders or revolutionaries in the country?
• Is there an NCO corps? How are NCOs selected? What are their duties and responsibilities?
What is their relationship with officers and Soldiers?
• What oath of allegiance, if any, do members of the military swear upon enrollment?
• What colors, banners, symbols, or uniforms do antigovernment forces use?

Sociology
• Do the people identify themselves with organizations or affiliations (tribes, religions, ethnicity, provinces/regions, classes, occupations, and common language)?
• What are the major problems and underlying issues with the people (root causes)?
• Are there a large number of homeless, refugees, squatters, internally displaced persons (IDPs)? What do the people think of them?
• What is customary in dealing with guests or strangers? Are people friendly or guarded with strangers?
• What are some of the core values of the people that define who they are?
• What is the daily or weekly schedule of most citizens (wakeup, meals, work, social time, sleep)?

Cultural Anthropology
• Have current warring groups/factions ever lived side-by-side in peace? What changed?
• What are some of the key cultural aspects of the local tribes or nomadic groups?
• What are the traditional roles of each family member?
• Whom do the people look to for leadership (governmental and nongovernmental)?
• How important is being on time in the society (business, social gatherings)?
• How do they correct social mistakes?

Economics
• What export or local product are the people known for and the most proud of?
• Are bribes or "gifts" normal in dealing with businesses, government officials, or police? What is acceptable (levels of corruption)?
• What infrastructure is required to support economic growth (electricity for factories, roads to move produce, security to minimize extortion/black market)?
• What is the daily wage of an average worker/laborer? Which jobs are considered honorable?
• What economic organizations are important and influential in the society (labor unions, merchant guilds)?
• Is there a local black market? Who is involved, what products, and how tied to the community and local government?
• Are prices fixed or negotiated in normal commerce?

Education
• What is the literacy rate?
• Who goes to school (males, females, all, optional)? What is the last year of general public education?
• Are public schools secular or religious? How?
• What influence do local universities have, for example, do the professors promote radicalism and do the schools serve as recruiting centers?

Art, Music, and Entertainment
• How important is the national anthem to the populace? What do the lyrics mean?
• What types of music do the most people listen like?
• What types of movies do they like?
• What are their favorite holidays, and how do they celebrate them? What types of food do they
eat during holidays and special occasions?
• What are some of the most popular hobbies and recreations?

Literature
• What types of stories do children read? What are the morals of these stories?
• What stories, fables, and epics, oral or written, pass down through families or communities? Do these help define the culture?
• Who are the most famous—or infamous—characters in popular literature?
• What are some the legends of the nation's past?
• What are the popular books, and who are the controversial authors (past and present)?

Food and Drink
• What is the local cuisine?
• What are some typical or traditional foods and drinks?
• How are they prepared?
• How important is sharing a meal?
• Is there any food or drink culturally forbidden?

Psychology
• Who or what do people fear?
• Rank the following from 1 (most important) to 7 (least important):
 God
 Family
 Tribe
 Neighborhood
 Country
 Political party
 Ethnic group
• Rank the following from 1 to 5 (most to least important):
 Esteem needs (self-esteem and respect of others).
 Safety needs (security and stability).
 Self-actualization (meet ones potential).
 Love needs (belonging).
 Physiological needs (basics necessities—water, food, shelter).

Law and Criminal Justice
• Who makes and enforces the local laws? What justice can the victims or their families exercise?
• What are the basic rules of the road, traffic laws, and right of way? Are they followed?
• What types of organized crime exists? What symbols, colors, graffiti, or uniforms do local gangs or organized crime use?
• What does each mean (marks territory, identifies targets, intimidates populace)?
• How do the people feel about corporal punishment and capital punishment?
• What could dishonor an individual, family, or group? How do you correct serious situations between individuals, families, or groups or families?

Science and Technology
• Does the country or area have Internet service? Satellite or hardwired?
• Does the enemy use the Internet? How and why?
• What Internet sites are forbidden or blocked?
• What is the country recognized for inventing or discovering? What do the people generally believe their country invented or discovered?

 

[airmarshal]

There we go again. Where have I heard this broken record before. Purana Pakistan.

Imagine if TTP and BLA join ranks. The Pakistani army has left these monsters unchecked to grow. We have now reached a point where the Pakistani army is just talking... Dark days ahead for Pakistan.

It also needs a political solution.

The terror financiers are outside Pakistan. Through diplomatic channels, that money supply can be blocked. For diplomacy, we need a legitimate government, not crooks installed by establishment.

Counter terrorism in not just kinetic operations. It also has political dimension.

But since the low IQ top generals only think about their retirement and how to use their position for personal gains, this very simple thing escape their tiny minds.

We might be saying this 10 years from now when Afghanistan too will be get ahead of us. Who would have thought East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, will be ahead of us? With their exports just last month, the projected export of Bangladesh will be more than $60 billion. India, which got independence with us, has foreign exchange reserves of more than $500 billion. But Pakistan is still 'ek mushkil morh sayey guzar raha hai'. Fittey moo!!!