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Zia Ul Haq was an Islamist and Pakistan in general has always had a positive perception of Afghanistan as Muslim brothers, I believe they let them in as they thought it would have minimal damage to Pakistan while helping the Afghans a lot during a tough time, perhaps even helping personal relations.

They weren't going to get rich from allowing Afghan refugees, they knew it would barely cover the Afghans' needs. Military and economic support came from other packages.

By the way you can read more detailed documents from the UNHCR on Afghan refugees and the impact it had on Pakistan and the locals.

Kabulis became inoculated to Papa John's when Pakistan started funding Hekmyatar and he destroyed Kabul. Army always scores its own goals.

Pakistan also needed an IMF bailout in Zia's time so clearly something wasn't working.
 
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Pakistan also needed an IMF bailout in Zia's time so clearly something wasn't working.
At least during Zia’s time we had the highest gdp growth ever in our history, prevented Indians from starting a war with us while we were engaged with Soviets, used afghan war as a cover an completed nuclear program, defeated soviets in AFG and saved Pakistan from being attacked by them, supported Kashmiri mujahideen and started a new uprising, paved way for Gwadar to be what it is today, strengthened the army heavily, secured top of the line fighters for our airforce, expanded our soft power in the region and many more things.
Zia was smart. People can call him American slave or proxy but he used Americans and Chinese (even back in the 80s) for Pakistan’s interest and he fulfilled Pakistan’s interests the most. And Pakistan was still suffering from losing 1/3rd it’s land just a few yrs ago in 71 but Zia made Pakistan a power to be reckoned with.
 
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A Soviet occupied Afghanistan would have been worse for us.

And even if we eliminated the Afghan Taliban, the new government in Kabul would still have a hostile policy towards Pakistan.
As if 20 years of non-Taliban led Afghanistan engendered peace and harmony on the Western border...
 
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What do you think is better; an isolated Afghanistan controlled by Talibs, or a western backed puppet?
The way things are progressing Talibs might just mend their relations with the West on equal footings whereas the perennial colonial sepoys will continue to be a source of derision and contempt for their colonial masters.
 
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What do you think is better; an isolated Afghanistan controlled by Talibs, or a western backed puppet?

A democratic and liberal Afghanistan with enough stability to take back their refugees.
 
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If you are fighting war inside your borders than it’s already too late and your defense structure has failed.
It's never too late in a COIN war. We have seen that in the past Ops too.

Sir, you just suggested Vietnam era gun trucks. May be you would also revisit your opinion about my idea of firebases.
I suggested the gun truck concept earlier but this time it was an counter-ambush tactic without carrying the required cargo on board.
 
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People like you should be picked up and thrown at the border naked to spend some time with TTP …. What a waste of human filth you are.
People like you should be made to live in Pakistan. Why are you in Canada if Pakistani army has done such a fantastic job in Pakistan, you should find a permanent home in Pakistan.
 
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People like you should be made to live in Pakistan. Why are you in Canada if Pakistani army has done such a fantastic job in Pakistan, you should find a permanent home in Pakistan.

Send them off to Babusar Top, news is Tali's have set up camp there pretty easily.
 
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Send them off to Babusar Top, news is Tali's have set up camp there pretty easily.
I am certain he will not agree to go. Despite his *** licking of Pakistani army, he knows deep down how useless our army is at their job.
 
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Yup negotiate with them, let them cross border, let them keep weapons and then let them attack army convoys. All too familiar and all repeating.
 
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Zia made Pakistan a power to be reckoned with.
Yup. Bombs going off every day in Pakistan due to the bastard children of his indoctrination. So much that Ali Azmat had to create this song:

 
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