Arjun MK-2 tanks facing Smokey driver chamber in latest tests

[he-man]

koi waddi gal nai

 

[Abingdonboy]

If true the issues will be addressed soon enough.



hey, if it was easy- everyone would do it.

It does really get to me though when people get all worked up and dismissive when people berate programs/systems for issues that flare up during TESTS. I mean, why do you people think anyone conducts such tests?? It's better for these issues to arise during these tests than on the field- in fact that's entirely the point.

 

[Green Angel]

SO SAD ......... Bring some new Tanks

 

[he-man]

i have complaints only on the issue of foreign components.
at least we should have taken some steps 10 years buck and still are not willing.there is only so much a psu can do,,,u need profit hungry private players to deliver.psu employees have fixed salary,no danger of getting fired so obviously have lesser motivation just like a govt doctor,teacher or a lawyer!!

 

[nForce]

It's weight, at around 65 tons, is comparable with the M1A2 Abrams tank. It's not the weight itself that matters though. It's actually the amount of ground pressure(kg/sq cm) that a tank exerts that determines whether it will get bogged down into sandy/marshy terrain. The ground pressure of the Arjun Mk 1 was the best in comparison to other heavy tanks. the mk2 is expected to offer a very competitive ground pressure value as well.

It does matter in terms of operating cost though..It costs fuel and India does not produce surplus amounts of that.
I tend to like the Soviet/Russian strategy here.A large number of medium tanks with lower silhoutte is better than bigger tanks.

 

[Imran Khan]

happen to every project nothing to be worry . if anyone has fun just watch movie wars of pentagon its based on real story of US APCs

 

[Indischer]

It does matter in terms of operating cost though..It costs fuel and India does not produce surplus amounts of that.
I tend to like the Soviet/Russian strategy here.A large number of medium tanks with lower silhoutte is better than bigger tanks.

It can also be argued that lower developmental, manufacturing and maintenance costs of indigenous equipment can offset potentially higher operating costs.
Regarding the silhouette, yeah, lower one is preferable, but if anything is truly outstanding in the Arjun, it's the Armour.

 

[SR-91]

there is no point in an indigenous tank when almost everything that matters technologically is sourced from outside and assembled here.


this is a faulty mechanism.arjun has been running for a decade now(active program)

why dosen't govt give concessions to private industries to contribute??sure they don't see much profits and are unwilling but at least make them concessions so that they can at least consider it rather than asking drdo to import stuff and assemble a tank

now pls fanboys don't start posting details of whats indigenous in arjun and whats not,i know it well enough.

i am only punching holes in faulty planning.

on the topic though at least 500 should be inducted for the venture to turn profitable

He-man,

Why is the glass, always, half empty for u?

 

[SR-91]

It's weight, at around 65 tons, is comparable with the M1A2 Abrams tank. It's not the weight itself that matters though. It's actually the amount of ground pressure(kg/sq cm) that a tank exerts that determines whether it will get bogged down into sandy/marshy terrain. The ground pressure of the Arjun Mk 1 was the best in comparison to other heavy tanks. the mk2 is expected to offer a very competitive ground pressure value as well.

Not just competitive, but better than T-series,,
The Arjun Mk-2 will see the tank weight increase from 62 to 67 tonnes, as a result of specific requirements from the user — which include additions such as the track width, mine plough and Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) on the glacis plate, as well as the front of the turret. These two requirements alone will add three tonnes to the weight of the Arjun Mk-1. Along with other additions, the Mk-2 is expected to top out at 67 tonnes.

 

[Firemaster]

Arrey yaar Kitna troll karete ho topic pe bhi post karlo

Karnede yar ise

DRDO will outsource arjun tank development to Israel or Russia in near future. lol

Might be

 

[he-man]

He-man,

Why is the glass, always, half empty for u?

if u have to progress then u need to look at the empty glass rather than half full glass

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

As long as drdo "develops" military equipment for india,
we don't need to worry about anything...

 

[IND151]

As long as drdo "develops" military equipment for india,
we don't need to worry about anything...

The burns of 19th April, 2012 suggest otherwise.

On Topic. Hope all problmes realted to Mk 2 are solved.

Ghoda ekda ganget nahu de mhanje zale.

It's weight, at around 65 tons, is comparable with the M1A2 Abrams tank. It's not the weight itself that matters though. It's actually the amount of ground pressure(kg/sq cm) that a tank exerts that determines whether it will get bogged down into sandy/marshy terrain. The ground pressure of the Arjun Mk 1 was the best in comparison to other heavy tanks. the mk2 is expected to offer a very competitive ground pressure value as well.

Yes but still weight counts as lower ground pressure advantage wont come handy on bridges(bridges are not plain ground.)

Most bridges along with our western border and infrastructure are more suitable for 45 to 50 ton tanks.

Off coarse, Arjun performs well in desert.

 

[he-man]

if drdo can make 100 things,pakistan cannot make even 5

thats the truth,so yes we are not happy about drdo................but why are u so happy and bubbly??
lol

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

DRDO was established in 1958 to indigenize defense weapon production. Yet after more than 55 years, it has embarrassingly little to show for itself. The CAG reports that 70% of the products that DRDO produces are rejected by the armed forces. Others are delayed for decades. Some of the more notable delays are

# Arjun-Main Battle Tank- 40 year development. End product is 50% overweight and the heart of the system, the fire control system has been developed by Elbit systems in Israel

# LCA-Tejas- 30 year development. Still in flight tests. Only the control system and airframe are indigenous. All other components including the ejection seat are imported.

# Nag-Anti tank missile- 30 year delay. Failed user trials as late as last month

# Trishul-Anti aircraft missile, abandoned in 2008 after 20 years

# Kaveri engine- 16 year delay with cost escalation of 800%. Still not airworthy . Delays in the engine have compounded delays of the LCA program.

# Even the most basic items such as artillery guns and howitzers have not been produced by DRDO.

# We import even the ammunition for our tanks at exorbitant prices as was pointed out by Retd Gen V.K. Singh

# BEML has been unable to indigenously manufacture a truck and continues to import them from TATRA after 3 decades. Indigenization is confined to replacing tires, bolts & nuts.

# It now appears that India will start importing assault rifles to replace the standard issue INSAS rifle. It is important to remember that assault rifles such as the AK-47 are even assembled in bazaars and road-side shops in Afghanistan. We will probably end up importing even bullets and cartridges next.

# The so called shining examples of DRDO success namely the Agni and Prithvi range of missiles have of late failed a series of user trials. Their low reliability (50% probability of successful strike coupled with hours of pre-launch preparations) causes the very credibility of our nuclear deterrent to be questioned. A recent India today articles highlights these same issues.

# Its premier UAV the Nishant is not aerodynamic, takes hours to deploy and the army has been compelled to accept a dozen.