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Just show me how, when en who did develop them... That should be not so hard cause you do not have so many firms.

You are so well informed. That should be not so hard then.

Huh what a joke...It is developed by Liquid Propulsion Systems,ISRO lab as pointed out by @kurup and is built by companies like MTAR technologies and Godrej.

About Radars,India have already developed AESAs for AEW&CS and many passive array,Doppler radars.These are developed by LRDE(DRDO)
And these are built by Astra Microwaves and companoes like that.

And SARs are developed by ISRO
 
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My friend, just read what your ex president Salam stole from Russia... You cannot develop a kalashnikov rifle but you can make a rocket propulsion system without any foundation of space industry?

If you had those radars then why did you buy French radars for Mirage 2000H? Just give me a call when you really have data.
 
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My friend, just read what your ex president Salam stole from Russia... You cannot develop a kalashnikov rifle but you can make a rocket propulsion system without any foundation of space industry?

If you had those radars then why did you buy French radars for Mirage 2000H? Just give me a call when you really have data.

Ex-President Salam?? Man I missed some history class :crazy:
 
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My friend, just read what your ex president Salam stole from Russia... You cannot develop a kalashnikov rifle but you can make a rocket propulsion system without any foundation of space industry?

If you had those radars then why did you buy French radars for Mirage 2000H? Just give me a call when you really have data.

There is no ex-president by the name Salam while there is a Abdul Kalam .

He became part of DRDO long before we started developing PSLV let alone GSLV which uses cryogenic engines . The foundation for our space industry were laid down some 50 years ago .

Now you are just clinging to straws when you have been proven wrong .

Also please provide proof of what Salam stole from Russia in the mean time .... :lol:
 
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AESA (Aisa) Radar Aur Kaha Milega!!! | idrw.org

There is no ex-president by the name Salam while there is a Abdul Kalam .

He became part of DRDO long before we started developing PSLV let alone GSLV which uses cryogenic engines . The foundation for our space industry were laid down some 50 years ago .

Now you are just clinging to straws when you have been proven wrong .

Also please provide proof of what Salam stole from Russia in the mean time .... :lol:

He was rather unimportant....
 
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so now when pakistani fanboys dont have anything to counter indian advancem,ent after almost 5 decdes of hard work they are now up to there famed mud slinging on owr national heros no wonder they are respected so much around the globe specialli for there overzelous thekedaari of ummah and export of there so called "non state actors" & "strategick assets" :taz::chilli::taz:..........:rofl::rofl:
 
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smoke or fire...

Cryogenics, the science of extreme low temperatures, has been a tricky one for rocket scientists across the world.
"At stake was a 300 billon dollar space research and applications industry which was in the hands of five nations — the US, France, China, Russia, and Japan. Almost every major country wanted to put its own satellites in the orbit and they could do it only with the help of these five nations,'' says J Rajashekaran Nair, who authored Spies from Space: The ISRO Frame-up .
In 1992, India signed an agreement with Russia for transfer of technology to develop cryogenic-based fuels. The agreement was signed for Rs 235 crore, when the US and France were offering the same technology for Rs 950 crore and Rs 650 crore respectively. "Documents show that US president George Bush (Sr) wrote to Russia, raising objections against this agreement and even threatening to blacklist the country from the select-five club,'' Rajashekaran says.
Russia, under Boris Yelstin, succumbed to the pressure and denied cryogenic technology to India. To bypass this monopoly, India signed a new agreement with Russia to fabricate four cryogenic engines after floating a global tender without a formal transfer of technology.'
Isro had already reached a consensus with Kerala High Tech Industries Limited (Keltch) which would have provided the cheapest tender for fabricating engines .

And some more bits...

ecember 27, 2010 | Arun Ram , TNN
CHENNAI: Isro is staring at a crisis: it is left with just one Russia-made cryogenic engine and its indigenous version is far from ready. The launch of communication satellites weighing more than 2 tonnes into a geosynchronous transfer orbit, besides India's ambitious space programmes such as Chandrayaan-2 and the manned mission, need Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicles ( GSLV ) powered partly by cryogenic engines. The cryogenic engine that went up in flames with GSLV-F06 on Saturday was the sixth of the seven such engines the country had procured from Russia.

The issue is not Kalam but the fact that you keep shouting that Indians made/invented something...
 
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smoke or fire...

Cryogenics, the science of extreme low temperatures, has been a tricky one for rocket scientists across the world.
"At stake was a 300 billon dollar space research and applications industry which was in the hands of five nations — the US, France, China, Russia, and Japan. Almost every major country wanted to put its own satellites in the orbit and they could do it only with the help of these five nations,'' says J Rajashekaran Nair, who authored Spies from Space: The ISRO Frame-up .
In 1992, India signed an agreement with Russia for transfer of technology to develop cryogenic-based fuels. The agreement was signed for Rs 235 crore, when the US and France were offering the same technology for Rs 950 crore and Rs 650 crore respectively. "Documents show that US president George Bush (Sr) wrote to Russia, raising objections against this agreement and even threatening to blacklist the country from the select-five club,'' Rajashekaran says.
Russia, under Boris Yelstin, succumbed to the pressure and denied cryogenic technology to India. To bypass this monopoly, India signed a new agreement with Russia to fabricate four cryogenic engines after floating a global tender without a formal transfer of technology.'
Isro had already reached a consensus with Kerala High Tech Industries Limited (Keltch) which would have provided the cheapest tender for fabricating engines .

And some more bits...

ecember 27, 2010 | Arun Ram , TNN
CHENNAI: Isro is staring at a crisis: it is left with just one Russia-made cryogenic engine and its indigenous version is far from ready. The launch of communication satellites weighing more than 2 tonnes into a geosynchronous transfer orbit, besides India's ambitious space programmes such as Chandrayaan-2 and the manned mission, need Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicles ( GSLV ) powered partly by cryogenic engines. The cryogenic engine that went up in flames with GSLV-F06 on Saturday was the sixth of the seven such engines the country had procured from Russia.

If the CE are given by Russian or made by them why gslv is taking long time we could just plug and play .isn't it?

so your given report says india is left with one CE that too dec 27 2010 means 3 yrs ago . so u think we just sit for 3 yrs doing nothing?
 
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If the CE are given by Russian or made by them why gslv is taking long time we could just plug and play .isn't it?

so your given report says india is left with one CE that too dec 27 2010 means 3 yrs ago . so u think we just sit for 3 yrs doing nothing?

mmmm

GSLV-D5 set for July launch
April 22, 2013 | Rhik Kundu , TNN
BANGALORE: Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will go ahead with the launch of a Geo-synchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV-D5) in July, said K Radhakrishnan, the chairman of the country's space agency. The GSLV-D5, which will carry an indigenous cryogenic engine, will be a renewed attempt from ISRO after the launch of a GSLV-D3 (with an indigenous cryogenic engine) in April 2010 ended in failure. "The previous seven flights of the GSLV have indicated several small issues.

You guys need 4 decades to assemble world smallest combat aircraft. Copying the engine was probably a long way... You guys love issues with everything. But proclaim to be the best. Let us call it a day. Boring already.
 
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GSLV-D5 set for July launch
April 22, 2013 | Rhik Kundu , TNN
BANGALORE: Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will go ahead with the launch of a Geo-synchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV-D5) in July, said K Radhakrishnan, the chairman of the country's space agency. The GSLV-D5, which will carry an indigenous cryogenic engine, will be a renewed attempt from ISRO after the launch of a GSLV-D3 (with an indigenous cryogenic engine) in April 2010 ended in failure. "The previous seven flights of the GSLV have indicated several small issues.

what ur trying to imply?:unsure:

You guys need 4 decades to assemble world smallest combat aircraft. Copying the engine was probably a long way... You guys love issues with everything. But proclaim to be the best. Let us call it a day. Boring already.

Goto LCA thread and see the time line....assemble?
 
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My friend, just read what your ex president Salam stole from Russia... You cannot develop a kalashnikov rifle but you can make a rocket propulsion system without any foundation of space industry?

If you had those radars then why did you buy French radars for Mirage 2000H? Just give me a call when you really have data.

Jokes jokes jokes all the
My friend, just read what your ex president Salam stole from Russia... You cannot develop a kalashnikov rifle but you can make a rocket propulsion system without any foundation of space industry?

If you had those radars then why did you buy French radars for Mirage 2000H? Just give me a call when you really have data.
Jokes,jokes & jokes all the way

Ex president 'Salam' Stole? stole what?? :lol: Russia?? :lol:
And 'no foundation for space Industry'??
Do you atleast know what Space Industry is??? :lol:
ndia has been developing its own rockets from 1967..ever heard of Rohini Sounding Roclets?SLV?


And as Kurup pointed out Kalam ldft ISRO for DRdO in early 80s.

And genius you doesnt know that there are different classes of Radars,and different ones are used in aircraft and land based systems??
 
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smoke or fire...


The issue is not Kalam but the fact that you keep shouting that Indians made/invented something...

The CE-7.5 was made by Indians . Th Russian cryogenic engines we have are kept in sealed containers with India having access only to mate it with GSLV MK1 .

Only a single one of them is left and we have already developed ours .

As the news report quotes Russia never transferred as the technology under US pressures . Had they transferred the technology ISRO would have cryogenic engines in the 90s itself .
 
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