Arjun-II MBT development l Updates & discussion.

[Vertiti Scrutator]

I'll do whatever I want, next time I will say it's shooting out rockets.

Dude, no need to get so offended!! Was just trying to clarify information.
You're free to believe whatever you want - jump to conclusions or jump all the way to the target yourself.

 

[Vertiti Scrutator]

With a little bit of looking around....I found this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/849860409494573056

Saurav Jha is reasonably trustworthy for accurate info...
So, the rumors of this test being for CLGM are demonstrably wrong!

 

[Vertiti Scrutator]

Oh yeah?! Next time it's going to be a ballistic missile coming out of it!

My specialty is helping people with information; I can't be of any help with insanity. Good luck buddy! Keep your balance and post on...

 

[Vertiti Scrutator]

Oh okay, next time it's going to be a nasr coming out of it.

Well, you need to post that on the Al-Khalid thread, not on this thread!

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well, you need to post that on the Al-Khalid thread, not on this thread!

It's going to be cloned, Arjun will fire it.

 

[asad71]

Meanwhile Arjun may have entered the Guinness Book of Records for taking the longest time to develop.

 

[Zarvan]

DRDO scientists have been developing the Arjun M- 2 Main Battle Tank since 2012. Arjun MK-2 is said to be a substantially improved and more capable version of the Arjun MK 1, 118 of which are now in delivery. But the Army has a problem with the weight of the tank: it weighs approximately 68 tons with scientists trying to lighten the load. Sources said scientists will use indigenously developed lighter high nitrogen steel in the baseline hull of the tank. They will also use all-aluminium road-wheels instead of all-steel road wheels and ventilators to reduce the weight.

The Indian Army wanted Arjun MK 2 to weigh 50-55 tons but the DRDO has conveyed its inability to bring it down to that level. The Army is said to have objected to the tank's 68-ton weight, saying it was too heavy and limited the area where it can be deployed.

India Successfully Tests Next-Gen Arjun Battle Tank’s Strike Capabilities- The Indian Army looks set to be going ahead with the indigenously developed Arjun MK-2 Main Battle Tank going by the successful trials being reported in by defense scientists.

Importantly, scientists of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) saw the successful test of an anti-tank weapon with a strike range of five kilometers at the Balasore testing facility. Scientists test-fired high explosive anti-tank weapon from Arjun MK-2 in salvo mode against a decommissioned tank. Sources said the test was successful and it had the desirable impact on the target.

In February this year, Bharat Electronics had unveiled a remote controlled weapon station (RCWS) for 12.7 mm gun of MBT Arjun Mk-2 battle tank at Aero India 2017 in Bangalore. This enabled the soldier to aim and fire at aerial targets from the safe interiors of the battle tank. Presently, the 12.7 mm guns of all tanks are manually operated. The RCWS is armed with the 12.7 mm Russian NSVT heavy machine gun. Other weapons like 7.62 mm MG can also be fitted with it.

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/04/drdo-scientists-attempting-to-bring.html

 

[Hassan Guy]

needs new diet

 

[Alok Arya]

DRDO scientists have been developing the Arjun M- 2 Main Battle Tank since 2012. Arjun MK-2 is said to be a substantially improved and more capable version of the Arjun MK 1, 118 of which are now in delivery. But the Army has a problem with the weight of the tank: it weighs approximately 68 tons with scientists trying to lighten the load. Sources said scientists will use indigenously developed lighter high nitrogen steel in the baseline hull of the tank. They will also use all-aluminium road-wheels instead of all-steel road wheels and ventilators to reduce the weight.

The Indian Army wanted Arjun MK 2 to weigh 50-55 tons but the DRDO has conveyed its inability to bring it down to that level. The Army is said to have objected to the tank's 68-ton weight, saying it was too heavy and limited the area where it can be deployed.

India Successfully Tests Next-Gen Arjun Battle Tank’s Strike Capabilities- The Indian Army looks set to be going ahead with the indigenously developed Arjun MK-2 Main Battle Tank going by the successful trials being reported in by defense scientists.

Importantly, scientists of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) saw the successful test of an anti-tank weapon with a strike range of five kilometers at the Balasore testing facility. Scientists test-fired high explosive anti-tank weapon from Arjun MK-2 in salvo mode against a decommissioned tank. Sources said the test was successful and it had the desirable impact on the target.

In February this year, Bharat Electronics had unveiled a remote controlled weapon station (RCWS) for 12.7 mm gun of MBT Arjun Mk-2 battle tank at Aero India 2017 in Bangalore. This enabled the soldier to aim and fire at aerial targets from the safe interiors of the battle tank. Presently, the 12.7 mm guns of all tanks are manually operated. The RCWS is armed with the 12.7 mm Russian NSVT heavy machine gun. Other weapons like 7.62 mm MG can also be fitted with it.

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/04/drdo-scientists-attempting-to-bring.html

Weight will bring down to approx 60 tons by using hn steel and all aluminium and all steel wheel and new construction approach to minimise the gap between parts . Further weight reduction of 2-3 ton would be possible by redesigning of turret .

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Weight will bring down to approx 60 tons by using hn steel and all aluminium and all steel wheel and new construction approach to minimise the gap between parts . Further weight reduction of 2-3 ton would be possible by redesigning of turret .

still 5-10 ton above requirement.
Need to replace the big gun with machine gun

 

[Alok Arya]

still 5-10 ton above requirement.
Need to replace the big gun with machine gun

Not 5 to 10 ton . It is only 2 to 3 tons above of 55 tons of army demand .

 

[Vertiti Scrutator]

Whatever the issues Arjun Mk1 faced, the Mk2 fiasco is caused by plain stupidity.
DRDO and Army were clearly NOT talking - it was a stupid miscommunication. DRDO spent years incorporating the 90+ new requirement into Mk2, and nowhere it occured to DRDO that they should inform the Army that the add-ons (like mine-plough) will increase the weight of the tank; and no where it occured to the Army to ask or tell that the weight should not increase.

At least on this fiasco, DRDO was honest that they screwed up on the communication side. The bigger issue is not just the extra year that they will be spending to incorporate lighter materials, but the several more years that they'll need to spend rerunning all the tests (summer trials, winter trials, moon walking trials, zero gravity trials.....)

 

[X_Killer]

Confirmed!
CLGM was tested and not any tank rounds from Arjun Mk 2 in reported test.
Confirming our very first assessment, CLGM was tested from Arjun MK II main battle tank. The missile carrying a HEAT warhead successfully destroyed a target tank 5 km away.
CLGM is Indian version of LAHAT. LAHAT is 105mm tandem HEAT warhead with a range of almost 7 kms, whereas CLGM is 120mm tandem HEAT warhead with range upto 5kms, CLGM has midcourse change software which can be used to switch target in mid flight.

 

[Vertiti Scrutator]

Confirmed!
CLGM was tested and not any tank rounds from Arjun Mk 2 in reported test.
Confirming our very first assessment, CLGM was tested from Arjun MK II main battle tank. The missile carrying a HEAT warhead successfully destroyed a target tank 5 km away.
CLGM is Indian version of LAHAT. LAHAT is 105mm tandem HEAT warhead with a range of almost 7 kms, whereas CLGM is 120mm tandem HEAT warhead with range upto 5kms, CLGM has midcourse change software which can be used to switch target in mid flight.

That's good news know if its true.
Could you share how you were able to confirm that it was CLGM that was tested.

The image looks like Arjun Mk1 firing a regular tank round.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Not 5 to 10 ton . It is only 2 to 3 tons above of 55 tons of army demand .

you said 60 ton which is 5 ton more than 55 and 10 ton more than 50.
Plz go to school for math classes.