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“Argo, Fcuk Yourself”

They did.

Its called Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

As a Pakistani, I love that movie. :D

And besides, you guys took over their embassy, held them hostages for 444 days, paint anti-American murals, and every Friday yell death to America and call for Israel to be destroyed.

And you expect Hollywood to portray you guys as Heroes? :rofl:

you live in america but you literally lick american arse, is it for getting green card bro?
 
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It's different my friend, Iranian don't protest on every single movie showing them.For example,in Transformers,they blow up a nuclear site in Iran,but no one protested for that.Because we all know it's just a action movie and they need a enemy for fulfilling their agenda.Or another movie, House of sand and fog,which is again about Iranians and many others.

But if at the beginning of a movie,it says 'based on true events' while it's manipulating history,then it's unacceptable.If you don't have any problem with that,then it's your personal opinion and I respect that.But we can not let them show everything they like in the movie and only because it's a movie,we should stay silent.At least in here,that's not how it works.

What was so incorrect about Argo?

It showed Iranians protesting outside US Embassy. (That happened)
It showed Iranians taking over the Embassy and holding them hostage. (That happened)
It showed Iranians using kids and women to stitch together shredded documents. (That happened)
It showed Iranians simulating mock executions on Hostages. (That happened)
It showed Iranians hanging dissenters and regime loyalists in public square. (That happened)
It showed Iranians looking for 6 American hostages who escaped the Embassy. (That happened)

So please what are you bitching about?

You cannot expect to take over US Embassy, hold its people hostage, paint anti-American murals, yell death to America, and expect to be given a fair treatment in its media.

This is all your fault. Deal with it.
 
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If this film portrayed india country in negative light then why did indian actors like late Om Puri worked in it and gov of india country allowed it to be made in that country??:azn:

It wasn't shot in India, it was shot in Sri Lanka :D

And Om Puri didn't work in it. It was Amrish Puri. :D

As for Indian Actors, Argo also has Iranian actors working in it. :D
 
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It wasn't shot in India, it was shot in Sri Lanka :D

And Om Puri didn't work in it. It was Amrish Puri. :D

As for Indian Actors, Argo also has Iranian actors working in it. :D
problem is not to judge some actions which are true (yeah hostages existed, and some bad actions existed)
as explained you Era, problem of the movie is that it is showing a very different picture of the Iranian society than the reality. we were not and are not savages for the very vast majority of us. get it? ;)
 
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Any movie coming from Hollywood or another film industry, even if it says "Based on a True Story", is always dramatized. The only truth is probably there was a guy named Joe Brown.

It was just an successful attempt by Ben Affleck to get an Oscar by glamorizing Hollywood. And Hollywood decided to give itself an Oscar for Best Film.

Now there are millions of stupid Americans who think they know what happened in the Iranian Hostage Situation.

Did you know:
1) Ayatollah Khomeini had nothing to do with the hostage takers?
2) It was University Students who started the revolution, put Khomeini in power; any smart "revolutionary" isnt going to backstab this supporters when his government it fractured.
3) Former Pres. Carter was a dumba$$ who decided that his friendship with the Shah was more important than the wishes of millions of Iranians who wanted Justice and Freedom.
4) Ayatollah Khomeini asked for the release of women, and the minority Americans who were hostages, because America did a fine job in discriminating against them.
5) Most hostages dont live longer than 42 hours.
6) Right after Reagan was inaugurated the hostages were released. The situation was political retaliation to Carter sheltering the Shah.
 
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Thəorətic Muslim;4010537 said:
Any movie coming from Hollywood or another film industry, even if it says "Based on a True Story", is always dramatized. The only truth is probably there was a guy named Joe Brown.

It was just an successful attempt by Ben Affleck to get an Oscar by glamorizing Hollywood. And Hollywood decided to give itself an Oscar for Best Film.

Now there are millions of stupid Americans who think they know what happened in the Iranian Hostage Situation.

Did you know:
1) Ayatollah Khomeini had nothing to do with the hostage takers?
2) It was University Students who started the revolution, put Khomeini in power; any smart "revolutionary" isnt going to backstab this supporters when his government it fractured.
3) Former Pres. Carter was a dumba$$ who decided that his friendship with the Shah was more important than the wishes of millions of Iranians who wanted Justice and Freedom.
4) Ayatollah Khomeini asked for the release of women, and the minority Americans who were hostages, because America did a fine job in discriminating against them.
5) Most hostages dont live longer than 42 hours.
6) Right after Reagan was inaugurated the hostages were released. The situation was political retaliation to Carter sheltering the Shah.

Thanks,that was a nice analysis. :tup:

Although I do disagree with hostage crisis in its nature, but many facts were biased in that movie.

Like those public hangings in street.Hangings did happen, but not in streets,but in prisons.
And those mocking executions, there is no proof that they happened,but since Hollywood says they happened,so it must be true,right?
 
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Just these days? :lol: When has it ever been non-political?

Nobel Prize is a symbol of West Imperialism....I am seriously surprised....If Nobel Prize can not recognize the Mahatma Gandhi for hi non violence struggle against non violence then it is really a no value for me....
 
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Nobel Prize is a symbol of West Imperialism....I am seriously surprised....If Nobel Prize can not recognize the Mahatma Gandhi for hi non violence struggle against non violence then it is really a no value for me....

don't exagerate
how to explain Arafat got a Nobel price then?
the guy who created the Nobel prices did it for a fair and noble reason. Now the people who vote ... i am not sure they are always that experts to understand and know .

Everyone knows for exemple why Aung San Suu Kyi got a Nobel price and it was a good one
But yeah when she didn't care all a village of muslims be massacred... does she deserve then a such Nobel price? lol
 
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No big prizes for working out why Argo won the Oscar for best picture this week. It is a superb movie — clever, witty, beautifully paced, brilliantly acted, exciting, suspenseful, characterful etc, etc… And, of course, it’s based on the true story of how CIA agent Tony Mendez (played by director Ben Affleck) put together the “Canadian Caper”, in which he faked the production of a sci-fi movie in order to rescue six US diplomats from Tehran during the 1979 Iran hostage crisis.

So, crucially, it tells Americans something great about themselves — about their courage, their ingenuity, their audacity and the lengths they will go to in saving the lives of other Americans. Just what the doctor ordered, at a time when the US has cause to feel a little less bumptiously certain about its global supremacy.

However, Argo, despite its many wonderful qualities, would be just another technically proficient pile of steaming horseshit if it wasn’t for the opening sequence, which uses historical footage and cartoon storyboards to make it abundantly clear that the Iranians had every right to be furious with the US, and to blame America for its woes. It’s all there — the US’s arrogant, self-interested, ruthless, hypocritical, unforgivable meddling in the sovereign affairs of another state, prompted by the UK and Churchill during and after the Second World War, and up until the present day. Affleck is an intelligent man and a shrewdly commercial filmmaker. He doesn’t offer the US more truth than it can bear. He refrains from overdoing the mea culpas to the point at which Americans would reject them. Affleck doesn’t sugar a pill, he “pills a sugar”.


It’s useful to compare and contrast Argo with Kathryn Bigelow’s Zero Dark Thirty, about the hunting and killing of Al Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden. Zero is a much more demanding, complex and uncompromising film, far less easy to slot into the Hollywood thriller genre, and overlooked at this year’s Oscars, apart from half-a-statuette for sound editing. Zero Dark Thirty has, of course, been highly controversial. There’s a lot more pill than sugar in Bigelow’s movie, that’s for sure.

The pill, of course, is the torture. Critics from the left argue that the film glorifies torture by suggesting it’s a useful way of operating, even though it was not used to make any of the specific intelligence discoveries that led to the assassination of Bin Laden. Critics from the right simply don’t like the fact that the sort of torture the CIA resorts to has been depicted in a Hollywood feature at all, even though they strongly defend its efficacy in “real life”.

You could, of course, be strictly pragmatic and condemn Zero Dark Thirty because it placed the needs of a film script above the integrity of the pertinent historical fact underpinning individual stories. But Argo plays extremely fast and loose with historical truth as well, grossly downplaying Canadian involvement, portraying Iranian officials as childish and easily duped, distorting the rescue mission to make it seem far more nail-bitingly precarious and in-the-nick-of-time than it actually was. What’s the difference? Why is one historically inaccurate film about US involvement with the Middle East dismissed for the artistic licence it has taken, and the other garlanded when it has taken similar liberties?

It’s simply that one film’s overall message leaves no room for ambiguity in its portrayal of its hero, while the other, on the contrary, introduces very dark moral ambiguities that it needn’t have. Affleck sacrificed accuracy in favour of easy-to-swallow heroics. Bigelow sacrificed accuracy in favour of hard-to-swallow anti-heroics. Argo’s infelicities are conventional, clearly undertaken in the service of creating a recognisably feel-good cinematic narrative. Zero Dark Thirty’s infelicities are much more difficult to read, as can be seen from the touching union between left and right in despising it.


In the end, however, the right understands better than the left that no one who is depicted as a torturer ever ends up entirely “glorified”. That’s why they prefer total secrecy and lack of acknowledgement around such matters. The torture sequences at the start of Bigelow’s film are most usefully viewed as similar in intent to the potted history of US involvement in toppling the democratically elected leader of Iran, and replacing him with a decadent and authoritarian Shah. Both warn, “This is the story of an individual CIA agent’s success — we’re celebrating that. But it’s part of a much more dubious wider context, of brutal and ignominious manipulation. That’s not so easy to celebrate.”

Both films would have been more existentially “inaccurate” without their early contextualising scenes, in which Americans are portrayed committing acts against foreign states or foreign nationals that they would not tolerate being conducted against their own. Without those scenes, both films would have been simple glorifications of individual CIA agents battling against the bureaucracy of the CIA as a whole. Affleck just slapped on his rider in a less contestable, less visceral way, which was more acceptable to the audience.

Yet it’s fascinating, the way these two film-makers have both chosen to make films that denigrate the CIA as a whole, yet venerate lone operators within it. Overall, both films say that whatever shortcomings the American state may have, it still produces exceptional individual Americans. Actually, any culture can and does produce exceptional individuals. One of the great things about the US is that it unashamedly gets behind such people, nurturing “the gifted” in a way that Britain shrinks from doing.

But America’s insistence on believing that somehow the particular qualities of the US as a state — good and bad — are indivisibly and uniquely brilliant at producing exceptional people is mistaken. Above all, it stops the US from really grasping that its empire-of-influence attitude to the rest of the world is hugely damaging — both to non-Americans and to the standing of the US itself.

Somehow, the US is always making an invisible movie about itself, an endlessly refreshed and recast mythology in which the nation itself is a doughty individual going against the grain and always certain that, whatever the risks, it will be proved right in the end, the story of its individuality and heroism only burnished by the surrounding recalcitrant nay-sayers. The US likes Argo because it sticks more closely to that line, while displaying a bit of doughty individuality itself.

It’s wary of Zero Dark Thirty because it deliberately blurs the line. It may be suggesting that even doughty individuality isn’t necessarily a justification, an excuse or a worthwhile undertaking when the violation of the rights of other humans is being undertaken in its service, however crowned with success those individual efforts may be. It may be suggesting the opposite. That’s not the important thing. You leave the cinema after seeing Zero Dark Thirty feeling troubled. You leave the cinema after seeing Argo feeling thrilled. Argo may be a more entertaining film. But Zero is disturbing, serious, doughtily individualistic art.


Zero Dark Thirty troubles Americans | World | DAWN.COM
 
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this sounds so funny :omghaha:

nice avatar mate.:cheers:

If this film portrayed india country in negative light then why did indian actors like late Amrish Puri worked in it and gov of india country allowed it to be made in that country??:azn:

we didnt,it was shot in sri lanka.
and about amrish puri,even i was disappointed,perhaps money.
 
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don't exagerate
how to explain Arafat got a Nobel price then?
the guy who created the Nobel prices did it for a fair and noble reason. Now the people who vote ... i am not sure they are always that experts to understand and know .

Everyone knows for exemple why Aung San Suu Kyi got a Nobel price and it was a good one
But yeah when she didn't care all a village of muslims be massacred... does she deserve then a such Nobel price? lol

I am not exagarating...rather i would see Nobel Prize is a perception of the West to see their intrest and the term peace is a relative term wrt to the West only....Sometimes whatever we see as a Peace that is not necessarily the same for West too...Hence their lies the difference...
 
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Thanks,that was a nice analysis. :tup:

Although I do disagree with hostage crisis in its nature, but many facts were biased in that movie.

Like those public hangings in street.Hangings did happen, but not in streets,but in prisons.
And those mocking executions, there is no proof that they happened,but since Hollywood says they happened,so it must be true,right?

Its not Hollywood who says mock executions happened, its the hostages themselves who have claimed as such.

problem is not to judge some actions which are true (yeah hostages existed, and some bad actions existed)
as explained you Era, problem of the movie is that it is showing a very different picture of the Iranian society than the reality. we were not and are not savages for the very vast majority of us. get it? ;)

How else do you expect to be depicted when you guys yell Death to America, paint anti-american murals, savagely take over their embassy, hold their people hostage for 444 days and keep wanting to destroy Israel.

Its your own fault you are depicted this way.

Change your ways first. Stop chanting death to America, remove those Anti-American slogans, apologize for the Embassy Take over, stop calling for Israel to be destroyed, etc.
 
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Its not Hollywood who says mock executions happened, its the hostages themselves who have claimed as such.



How else do you expect to be depicted when you guys yell Death to America, paint anti-american murals, savagely take over their embassy, hold their people hostage for 444 days and keep wanting to destroy Israel.

Its your own fault you are depicted this way.

Change your ways first. Stop chanting death to America, remove those Anti-American slogans, apologize for the Embassy Take over, stop calling for Israel to be destroyed, etc.
i believed it was very simple to understand but it seems you prefer to hate us and blame ALL Iranians.
What can we do that a few people did it ? ha? are we all responsible?
It seems you never came to Iran since Iran is welcoming people and we don't shoot bad words towards Americans,
if you would check a little bit about us, just see that most Iranians went to USA during war and after
and that the regime living in a machine of words, criticizing always and insulting... that's something we know well
and we cannot change it
get it ?

Again as said Era about this particular point too: this movie shows a bad picture of Iranians
and i can say even people who did it were not like described in the movie (we could see them on TV programs for some of them)

Yeah i think this was stupid to take hostages
Even Khomeiny was surprised and trapped by this stupid action of a few... but all this you know if you make effort to know
 
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Hollywood is a Jewish movie industry, so what do you expect from it?

Iran? The biggest enemy of Israel right now.

And also the biggest enemy of Sunni Muslims.
 
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