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Three out of five members of BRICS support Argentina’s bid to join the club, the Indian ambassador Amarenda Khatua to Buenos Aires said this week.

Argentina is not an obvious candidate if the BRICS countries decide to enlarge the group with new members, the Executive Director of the National Committee on BRICS Studies in Russia told RIA Novosti Tuesday.

“If a decision to enlarge BRICS is taken, there are much more obvious candidates such as Indonesia, representing also Islamic civilization which BRICS as a multi-civilizational union now lacks,” Georgy Toloraya said.

Three out of five members of the BRICS group of emerging economies support Argentina’s bid to join the club, the Indian ambassador Amarenda Khatua to Buenos Aires said Monday, according to the Clarin news agency.

The diplomat said Brazil, India and South Africa have backed the initiative, while Russia and China have yet to express their views.

Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told RIA Novosti that the possible accession of Argentina must be considered carefully. “We have a constructive approach towards any requests of this kind, whoever sends them,” Ryabkov said Tuesday.

He added that the BRICS format is in a developing stage. “That's why any issues on further expansion of the BRICS group need to be worked out fully and thoroughly.”

“As far I know, it has not been discussed at any level, including experts’ track within BRICS,” Georgy Toloraya said.

“Moreover, the BRICS have agreed on a moratorium to accept new members. IBSA [India, Brazil, South Africa] – a southern ‘wing’ of BRICS – might be interested in more cooperation with Argentina and it is certainly the Indian Ambassador’s job to promote cooperation between his country and the host country, which might be the reason for the comments, but I would rather judge the position of other BRICS countries first hand,” Toloraya told RIA Novosti.

The issue of enlarging the BRICS group of countries is part of the multilateral dialogue in the group, Ryabkov said. He added that the countries have dialogue on different levels and will meet at a summit in Brazil’s Fortaleza in July. “So the members of the BRICS will have a chance to discuss the issue [of enlargement] in detail.”

“I would be surprised also whether Brazil is ready to push for Argentina’s candidacy given the competitive nature of relations. Also the debt problem of Argentina should be taken into account,” Toloraya said.

At the same time, Indian Ambassador Khatua noted that after the BRICS summit in Brazil, the next Prime Minister of India will pay a visit to Buenos Aires. Chinese President Xi Jinping is also expected to travel to Argentina during a tour of Latin America scheduled for July.

Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa are currently working on setting up a BRICS development bank as an alternative to the Western-dominated World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. The idea was proposed by India at a 2012 meeting of the organization’s finance ministers in Mexico.

Argentina unlikely candidate for expanded BRICS | Russia & India Report
 
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Indonesia seem better since they have alot of room to grow.

It is considered to be one of the biggest GDP by 2050
 
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Indonesia seem better since they have alot of room to grow.

It is considered to be one of the biggest GDP by 2050

I agree. Indonesia is a far more promising candidate. We also need a Muslim country member, and Indonesia is probably the best option, the one that fits closest into the BRICS ethos.
 
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Given India and Brazil's poor performance, they might consider kicking Brazil and India out and replacing them with Argentina to form - SCAR.:guns:
 
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Indonesia seem better since they have alot of room to grow.

It is considered to be one of the biggest GDP by 2050

I agree. Though it is not so much about it being a Muslim nation, but more to do with the fact it is a large resource exporter and a regional power. In comparison, Argentina isn't a resource exporter and BRICS already have presence in South America in form of Brazil.

Given India and Brazil's poor performance, they might consider kicking Brazil and India out and replacing them with Argentina to form - SCAR.:guns:

I talked about the issue before. In my opinion, there is no way BRICS will kick out Brazil no matter how poorly it is doing. This is because Brazil is one of the most resource rich nation in the world and actually covers the resource sector that Russia and South Africa can't cover. There is no way China would let Brazil to be kicked out of the BRICS and you know China's influence in BRICS economies. Also, Brazil is BRICS' only foothold on the Americas continent.

India is a more complicated issue. I am previously discussed the niche conflict India has within the BRICS group (Basically, the other four BRCS countries all have each other as main trade partner and they are in a supplier-manufacturer relationship, India has a bit trouble fitting in). India's influence is also mainly in South Asia, which China can handily influence, if somewhat indirectly. However, kicking India out of the BRICS group is also not exactly an easy decision to make. India is among the few nuclear powers in the world and is also big in term of land area and population. It would be a shame and more importantly, waste to give up these kind of influence.
 
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There is no point in talking about "kicking out" anyone from BRICS, we need more influence and reach, not less.
 
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I think Indonesia will be good choice and India had very good trade relation with ASEAN countries so Indonesia will be good choice
 
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Given India and Brazil's poor performance, they might consider kicking Brazil and India out and replacing them with Argentina to form - SCAR.:guns:

India has done better than both Russia and Brazil on growth rate. India represents almost 1/5th of humanity. Kicking it out of BRICS would be a huge mistake. It's really South Africa that does not belong.
 
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