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Learn the bankruptcy proceeding and you would know more.
Argentina has "bankrupted" many times, defaulted their bonds many times like you've mentioned, so that makes "claim on asset" stronger as per your argument?
 
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Argentina has "bankrupted" many times, defaulted their bonds many times like you've mentioned, so that makes "claim on asset" stronger as per your argument?
It is relative. It is only stronger than being an equity owner of "Argentina enterprise". Even that is pretty weak given its history of loan defaults. Yet, you are touting of being an even weaker owner.
 
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You do know that equity is weaker than loan in term of the claim on asset, don't you?
To a country that has defaulted on its debts a few times in the last 20 years.
It is relative. It is only stronger than being an equity owner of "Argentina enterprise". Even that is pretty weak given its history of loan defaults. Yet, you are touting of being an even weaker owner.
First of all, equity itself literally means ownership of assets (net assets), how does that become "weaker" in claim than a loan which is a credit vehicle?

Secondly when it comes to Argentina, there's nothing on this planet called "Argentina enterprise" let's not invent one. China can invest money either by FDI aka setup/acquire a Chinese owned enterprise, or give loan to Argentinian government. The latter aka loan has proven to be "weak" not "strong", even "doomed", how come setting up a Chinese owned enterprise say lithium mine extractor is touted by you being "even weaker" than "doomed"?
 
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First of all, equity itself literally means ownership of assets (net assets), how does that become "weaker" in claim than a loan which is a credit vehicle?

Secondly when it comes to Argentina, there's nothing on this planet called "Argentina enterprise" let's not invent one. China can invest money either by FDI aka setup/acquire a Chinese owned enterprise, or give loan to Argentinian government. The latter aka loan has proven to be "weak" not "strong", even "doomed", how come setting up a Chinese owned enterprise say lithium mine extractor is touted by you being "even weaker" than "doomed"?
As I said, learn the bankruptcy proceeding. :)
 
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As I said, learn the bankruptcy proceeding. :)
As I said, Argentina has "bankrupted" many times, defaulted their bonds many times like you've mentioned, so how does that make its "claim on asset" stronger as per your argument?
 
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Difference is US military, it will nuke the world before it defaults. If Argentina was military powerhouse, it would have never defaulted.
their debt is to china and they will be nuked back.
 
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As I said, Argentina has "bankrupted" many times, defaulted their bonds many times like you've mentioned, so how does that make its "claim on asset" stronger as per your argument?
I will stop this conversation now. The more talk would only reveal more of your ignorance, which doesn't really make you look good. :)

their debt is to china and they will be nuked back.
Ignore the nuke nonsense. US can always print more money to cover its debts. It is far more peaceful than nukes.
 
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I will stop this conversation now. The more talk would only reveal more of your ignorance, which doesn't really make you look good. :)
You do know that equity is weaker than loan in term of the claim on asset, don't you?
Let's carry on, why evade the illiterate statement you have proclaimed?
  1. Equity and loan themselves are both assets, equity literally means ownership of net asset, and loan is a credit vehicle, what "claim on asset" you are talking about?
  2. They are different in nature, how come one is "stronger" or "weaker" than the other?
  3. First you mentioned that Argentina defaulted many times, and then you spew a non-sense statement "equity is weaker than loan in term of the claim on asset", why contradicting yourself? You drag bankruptcy proceeding into discussion, does it apply to Argentina?
  4. Tell us where on earth is "Argentina Inc." and how to invest in its equity?
 
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Looks like we will see JF-17s in Argentina soon

To a country that has defaulted on its debts a few times in the last 20 years.
They have large lithium and zinc mines coming online. Debt to China will be paid in minerals.
 
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Looks like we will see JF-17s in Argentina soon


They have large lithium and zinc mines coming online. Debt to China will be paid in minerals.
Only when they want to pay. If they say to China: get lost, what are you gonna do? International loans are good ways to pull political favors but for economic benefits, it is better to have your marines backing it up.
 
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Only when they want to pay. If they say to China: get lost, what are you gonna do? International loans are good ways to pull political favors but for economic benefits, it is better to have your marines backing it up.
What? And choke on the mineral they don't have the capacity to process? Argentina won't do that.
 
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What? And choke on the mineral they don't have the capacity to process? Argentina won't do that.
I think if China government ships the raw material all the way back to China and processes it there, Argentina would be more than happy.
 
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I think if China government ships the raw material all the way back to China and processes it there, Argentina would be more than happy.

Uh... Ok... So you're telling me they want to lose the value add of processing raw materials into useful engineering materials, and only export raw materials. It is like being OK with exporting crude oil and not diesel or jet fuel, or being OK with exporting iron ore instead of steel.

Wow. You speak for Argentina?

Give me an example that sanctions worked on loan defaults.

Sanctions didn't work for diplomatic pressure until it did.

They don't necessarily need to change behavior, just inflicting punishment is sufficient.
 
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