Aren’t Rohingyas Bengalis, and Arakan integral to Bangladesh?

[M.R.9]

No they don't. Strictly speaking there is only one identity - human beings. And try to go to Saudia Arabia, Turkey, Afghanistan, Egypt or Oman and see if they overlook the fact that your a Bangla.

Your conflating ethnic and religion. The two are not exactly the same. Your a Bangla (ethnic) and a Muslim (religion) whereas say @KediKesenFare is a Turk (ethnic) and a Muslim (religion) or @Saif al-Arab is a Arab (ethnic) and a Muslim (religion). Is this not obvious?

I do agree wid ur statement fully . I just used that word, that the Burma guy can understand. I know nationalism concept is haram in islam.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I do agree wid ur statement fully . I just used that word, that the Burma guy can understand. I know nationalism concept is haram in islam.

I'm going to say something that'll probably hurt you: there is not even one Islam. We Muslim nations have many Islams. The Saudi Islam is different from the Iranian Islam or let's say Bangladeshi Islam. Ironically, what they all have in common is the denial of Islamic schools, branches, cultures and traditions. Every single Islam recognizes only its own understanding as pure and truth therefore every other person is a non-Muslim -> making Islam artificially homogeneous.

The lowest common denominator in Islamic terms is the Kur'an. Muslims all around the globe accept the written Kur'an. But even our holy book needs interpretation -> different Islams. That's the (obvious) reason why we have many Islams in reality.

In addition, you're wrong in case of nationhood concept in Islam.

Nationalism, ethnicity or similar concepts aren't haram. The Kur'an acknowledges the fact that we have different backgrounds. All depends on how you define nationalism. Being proud of technological and scientific progress of your nation is a very Islamic sentiment because you're exploring Allah's creation as a community/group -> this is also a form of being "pious". Racism on the other hand is indeed haram.

For instance, our Imam told us always that working and being succesful is a form of Islamic prayer. The harder you work, the stronger is Allah's love for you. You're getting more sevap. There is no difference between hard working and praying 5 times or going to mosque every day. It's equally important.

I personally refuse the concept of Islam without nationalism for many specific reasons, which I can tell you: DAESH, Al Qaida, Taliban, Boko Haram etc. pp.

All of them have in common that they reject nationalism. Look at the recently radicalized Turkish/Bosnian/Albanian Muslims in Western Europe. These people always had contact with Salafist Arab Muslims supporting pan-Islamist ideas (of terror organizations) before heading towards Syria.

Islam without a nationalist framing leads with certainty to extremism.

Suddenly friends are not celebrating Kandil anymore because some Arab Muslims told them it's Bid'ah.
-> http://turkishlifecafe.com/life-liv...-holidays-turkey/kandil-the-five-holy-nights/

This is part of our national culture and therefore it is Islamic!

 

[bluesky]

@KediKesenFare, You have quite an analytical mind. I always think approximately the way what you have written, but I am unable to express it in words and sentences that you did above. Thanks.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@KediKesenFare, You have quite an analytical mind. I always think approximately the way what you have written, but I am unable to express it in words and sentences that you did above. Thanks.

Thanks for the compliment. Actually,
I'm just writing down what's already very obvious for many people with the ability of critical thinking from a Muslim perspective.