Are you with us or with Qatar, Saudis ask Pakistan

[El Sidd]

Isay urdu main itrana kehtay hain sir. Ghuroor sirf Allah ki zaat ko sazawar.
May Allah protect every muslim and every human from the bad deeds of evil people, be it a muslim or non muslim. May Allah guide us so that we may be good for the prevalence of peace in the wholw world. Aameen.

Sir isse itrana nahi kehte.. shukar ada karna kehte hai.. or beshak hum shukarguzaar hai us Zaat k jisne Pakistan ko apni nishani banaya......
Ameen and Ameen.

 

[Max]

I never imagined a day will ever come when both allies of Pakistan would end up in different blocs...As someone said; we need a flowchart to figure out who hates who in middle east.

Either way, It is real messy situation. Turkiye and KSA....BOTH ARE FUKING IMPORTANT TO US...

May Allah help Pakistan. Ameen.

there are no allies, both sides are shrewd to such an extent that they will sell you to 3rd party for their interests within a blink of an eye, Pakistan is on its own..

Meanwhile we should look for our interests from this mess, who can pay us handsomely, we should join them, maybe Saudis. (i dont really meant it) rather we should stay neutral and dont bother at all.

 

[El Sidd]

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I never imagined a day will ever come when both allies of Pakistan would end up in different blocs...As someone said; we need a flowchart to figure out who hates who in middle east.

Either way, It is real messy situation. Turkiye and KSA....BOTH ARE FUKING IMPORTANT TO US...

May Allah help Pakistan. Ameen.

Newsflash for you my Turk loving friend.
A) Iskender kebab rocks

and

B) Pakistan is being invited to every bloc it has neither chosen to form any nor it will choose to exclusively choose any.

We are happy conducting businesses with everyone.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

there are no allies, both sides are shrewd to such an extent that they will sell you to 3rd party for their interests within a blink of an eye, Pakistan is on its own..

Meanwhile we should look for our interests from this mess, who can pay us handsomely, we should join them, maybe Saudis.

I get your point regarding financial aspect but money is not everything...Turks are supporting us in NSG...

I don't believe in this theory that states do not have allies...States do, and Pakistan has allies as well...Turks and KSA...Both are pretty close, sadly ended in different camps

 

[tesla]

It doesn't matter who hates whom in middle east or anywhere in the world, we should stay neutral Period.

coyote policy against S.arabia
fox policy against Turkiye

by the way i dont any expect pakistan .opportunism is always good for pakistan

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Newsflash for you my Turk loving friend.
A) Iskender kebab rocks

and

B) Pakistan is being invited to every bloc it has neither chosen to form any nor it will choose to exclusively choose any.

We are happy conducting businesses with everyone.

I fear we will be stretched by both sides...Time to get flexible...

We need to calm this situation down with whatever we have otherwise...Turks/Iranians and Arabs have the pride we can't even imagine.

 

[Max]

I don't believe in this theory that states do not have allies...States do, and Pakistan has allies as well...Turks and KSA...Both are pretty close, sadly ended in different camps

Then bro live in your lala land, Qatar was Saudi brother too till few weeks ago Yemenies were too

I get your point regarding financial aspect but money is not everything...Turks are supporting us in NSG...

We also support them diplomatically on their every issue.. dont we? for NSG we need US whole NATO will follow the suit.

 

[El Sidd]

I fear we will be stretched by both sides...Time to get flexible...

We need to calm this situation down with whatever we have otherwise...Turks/Iranians and Arabs have the pride we can't even imagine.

Respect yourself.
Maybe that is why you are not forming our foreign policy.
We need not do anything. We love fireworks

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Then live in your lala land, Qatar was Saudi brother too till few weeks ago

We don't really know what's happening behind the curtains...I agree the GCC puts one heck of a dumb move against Qatar but Qatar must have done something that GGC went against it at such level...

We also support them diplomatically on their every issue.. dont we? for NSG we need US whole NATO will follow the suit.

I agree. Support is mutual so as respect and honor. Do you really think Pakistan can deal with Turkiye in a way just like it deals with other countries given so much love and respect people have over each other...

Respect yourself.
Maybe that is why you are not forming our foreign policy.
We need not do anything. We love fireworks

I do respect Pakistan and our patriotism...but believe me...Fireworks also sometimes reach one's home...

US and West loves fireworks...We don't as this is our region and no mess will be allowed over here.

@Max...Turks invited us to join their fifth generation fighter programme...Very very few countries got that invite. While we're hoping Saudis will buy our JF 17...

This is why I am saying Pakistanis need to help both blocks to settle their disputes down...We will madly get affected if shit hits the fan...

Pray that war doesn't occur...

 

[Max]

@Max...Turks invited us to join their fifth generation fighter programme...Very very few countries got that invite. While we're hoping Saudis will buy our JF 17...

So what? South Korean and Indonesia were also developing their jet. do you think they sing song of brotherhood?

if Pakistan today offer money to Russia or US corps they will too join our 5th gen. Money matters. we should improve our economy.

 

[El Sidd]

We don't really know what's happening behind the curtains...I agree the GCC puts one heck of a dumb move against Qatar but Qatar must have done something that GGC went against it at such level...



I agree. Support is mutual so as respect and honor. Do you really think Pakistan can deal with Turkiye in a way just like it deals with other countries given so much love and respect people have over each other...



I do respect Pakistan and our patriotism...but believe me...Fireworks also sometimes reach one's home...

US and West loves fireworks...We don't as this is our region and no mess will be allowed over here.

@Max...Turks invited us to join their fifth generation fighter programme...Very very few countries got that invite. While we're hoping Saudis will buy our JF 17...

This is why I am saying Pakistanis need to help both blocks to settle their disputes down...We will madly get affected if shit hits the fan...

Pray that war doesn't occur...

Look at the globe again. We are in the sub continent not middle east. So think in that region

 

[fitpOsitive]

Hi,

In english it is 'strutting '.

Hahaha thanks sir.

 

[HRK]

Pak can only advance by retreating first...

The retreat has been quite studied and balanced so far... waiting yet further will be sign of statecraft, wisdom.

When Mr. Trump, from the WH, spells out a public demand.. it is quite clear that regime change in Doha has been ordained.

Yet, Pak can't always remain in retreat... a week is so short yet a lifetime in the insane sands of ME.

Pak needs to advance at the opportune moment which shall present itself after Kwait failure in mediation.

The question that arises here is whether Pak strategists have a game plan for advancing...

For better or worse ME is of strategic importance to Pak national interests. Pak has no choice but to be a party in shaping of the emerging Security Architecture there... any indifference, policy paralysis or misreading of tea leaves will bring troubles.

War making costs big money.

Keeping Peace is also an expensive enterprise... it can be made expansie and long term as well... of course on Pak's own terms.

In the coming two weeks, without the benefits of air miles, Pak leadership should be visiting all ME capitals including Ankara and Tehran... while at it...why not consult two big fellas in SCO..discretly perhaps. And of course, State Dept. is always in the loops along with 5-gon.


Tounge lives among teeth by being flexible... yet it is only the sweet tounge that can create magic... teeth are there for chewing.

Pak is game.. party to every and anything in ME expect for the Inferno..which is only for those who like playing with fire. Let them have their BBQ and eat the charcoal.. Pak must remain a bemused observer!

Historic moment this... for Pak to act as Regional Great Power of Global Consequence... all that is required is finesse.


All the best to Pak, whichever route you choose!



@HRK @haviZsultan @Oscar @MastanKhan @Kaptaan @scorpionx @Horus Friends, your critique is always a welcome sight.

I will restrain commenting on this news, but would say Saudis have committed a strategic mistake this time they just sow the seeds for the division of GCC which is their strength, secondly Trump is not a the STRONGEST ally in any sense.

 

[Baybars Han]

If Pakistan sides with KSA on this you will have left the hope for a better tomorrow - for easy money from corrupt KSA with their lavish lifestyles' - remember how KSA and her cronies view Pakistanis.
And remember Turkey supports Qatar till the end.

Erdos stooge. If erdo says bad things about pakistan tomorow you will hate Pakistan if he says bad things about any country you will switch in two seconds even if one day ago you was saying the opposite.

Shameless.

 

[Baybars Han]

It is in Pakistan interest to stay neutral.

It is in erdo's interest to side with qatar, because he's a spineless corrupt politican. He's worth billions now and he wants more.